UnbornTao

@Someone here It's not about value. About, is not it. A belief is like a photo of an apple. Experience is like perceiving an apple. By its nature, belief isn't the truth and can't ever be.

You don't need a belief for becoming conscious of whatever's true. And they always get in the way. That's the gist of it.

Check out Ryan Holiday, that might help.

I'd say better grasp your nature and then probably that question won't arise. If it does, then ask yourself.

Ha. Don't be too quick to assume understanding. If you hold it as merely understanding their words, OK then. Still, it sounds like your cup is full.

Check out something that is real, like Krishnamurti.

What? Like a zen koan.

how so?

That sounds more like pain to me. Suffering seems to be an added conceptual activity that, if grasped, can be mostly done away with. Probably not so much when it comes to extreme physical harm. Personally haven't done it, I just hear tell that it's a possibility.

Mostly on books. Supermind, evil, cosmic power, cosmic knowledge. Haha, when he uses qualifiers like marvelous, cosmic, powerful, things like that. I imagine this communication style is done partly for marketing purposes. Not saying it's bad, the substance of his communications and their delivery are great.

A lot of rhetoric and drama. No wonder that individuals who do that get a lot of attention. Feels like very popular individuals are mostly fake and pretending to know. Why do they sometimes look like actors in a TV show? Vernon Howard is recommended, also used hyperbole occasionally but overall he was straightforward and authentic.

Maybe Peter mentions bliss occasionally and in place of the word love so as not to mislead people, or perhaps because it's more precise. After all, love brings up many conventional associations that bliss doesn't. That opens up the matter for others to consider. Talk about love and peace if you want to gather people's attention. However, this will mislead them because the point is to experience whatever is true, not being fed whatever we want to hear. If you tell them you'll experience X or Y, people tend to fantasize, will miss the point and their investigations will get clouded by their preconceptions, preferences, and extrapolations about where it'll lead. or some such

You will forget and regain insights. The important part is the experience, the consciousness, not so much that it is written down. Get it and lose it. And get it again.

Haven't watched this one, thanks

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Extra virgin olive oil, yeah. I'm not clear on the technical details but processing the oil eliminates the good compounds.

Just a question for anyone who might find it useful.

Also for other people out there: reduce sources of stimulation. Cutting back or eliminating them altogether can help massively. No need to add more things to do to your day, which is one possible cause of stress in the first place.

Good definition. Seems like there's a difference between principles, rules and guidelines. A principle is like gravity, mastery, discipline. etc

What is a principle?

Deeply wondering about stuff creates philosophers.

Not interested although it sounds like solid info.

Contemplate. Be open to the possibility that others are an assumption. Grasp the source of that assumption. Consider that grasping this requieres a deeper consciousness than merely understanding some words. After all, once again, Ramona was deeply enlightened and said there are no others. I'm coming at this discussion from intellect, to be clear.

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