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For once Zelensky is confronted in his fake narrative. Yet he should not sign any deal with Trump and sell his country's assets, Trump only wants to take advantage of the situation and make profits for the kleptocratic corporate class of the US to which he belongs. There's no any good alternative for Zelensky though, puppet or not, he chose this path of perdition for his country and men, when he had many opportunities for a better exit.

Okay, I stand corrected about the aid, since that was 5 days ago. Yet, I don't see this going on much longer, considering all other factors, but it's a possibility it does for now, with this huge amount of money going through.

I have not made up anything, I make an analysis based on the information I've got. I don't see anything about what you say in your link, and I didn't find anything about that anywhere either. If the aid continues, it's possible the war does too, I'm not going to dispute that. But reading the room, the diplomatic relations between the US and Ukraine have deteriorated, the US and Russia are talking, and even Zelensky is making offers about his resignation. Things point out that the war is coming to an end sooner than later.

No, the Republican congressmen support Trump, who is the Republican Party's indisputable leader. There is no way they are going to support Zelensky over Trump. Trump smelled some corporate mineral agro deal opportunity and tried to pull something out, I don't think that part is going to work though, fortunately for what's left for Ukraine. He is also trying to exchange some kind of breakup between China and Russia, that's not going to go through either, these two countries have agreements that mutually benefit them. Trump can accept Putin's territorial terms and the ones concerning NATO or not, but what does he earn by continuing to send money to Ukraine? That's the thing, there's nothing to gain anymore, only loss. In the unlikely scenario Trump continues sending money to Ukraine, then the attrition war continues. Zelensky has tried to pull some kind of card, mostly directed to the media, which is a card too, but it's not going to work. He generously offered his resignation, in exchange for a NATO membership for Ukraine. That's off the table, Russia will continue to fight for that, as they've done to this day.

Republicans have control of congress since the last election.

I think it's ending. Even if Trump and Putin don't get into an agreement, the war can't continue without the US sending money to Ukraine. Zelensky bit the hand that was feeding him, which was Trump's. But we'll see.

Jeffrey Sachs cooking to the point, as usual. The war is ending and it shouldn't have started. A summary of the intervention by Danny Haiphong.

Yeah, it's literally done on a stage, so everyone sees it, but it's not a play, the kiss came from the guy. In the heat of the happiness of returning home, he kissed his captives. Two of them, it's fine. Yeah, taking hostages is wrong, that's why the side doing it more frequently should stop doing it, which is the terrorist ethnostate of Israel. That, apart from destroying all buildings with people inside, and purposely shooting them on a mass scale, clearly non-convatant people. However, in the most difficult situations, the ones lucky enough to make it through the Hanibal Directive alive of their own army not firing at them, still unlucky to be hostage, had to go through a year and a half of their army again bombing all the infrastructure at of Gaza at that scale, many of them died. Of course, they were not in a palace, and the chains are believable accusations, which is not fine. They are still in clearly good health, and if they had been starved, which isn't the case, the question of who lets the food in there is clear, Israel. Their civilians, by the way, stop the aid trucks and destroy the food. On the other hand, the ones that don't have any impediment to feeding their hostages are on the other side of the fence, and they are coming out skinny and with clear marks of torture and mental distress. The kind people of Israel, once again, they have gone out to the streets to fight for the right of their army to rape hostages, one of the accused of rape revealed proudly his face on TV. Hamas didn't kill their hostage babies with their bare hands, there is no evidence of that, and the family of these kids has asked the Israeli government officials to stop making such crazy public claims. Hamas preferred its hostages alive and in good health, as said before, but many died when the buildings collapsed on them because of the bombs thrown on them by their own nation at that scale.

Milei has already been charged with fraud, influence peddling, and negotiations incompatible with a public office for his participation in the LIBRA cryptocurrency scam. The Argentinian economy is not on a healthy growth path. He's selling the country's assets, which may generate some short-term growth and cash, but the people will not benefit from it, only the stock market, and the already rich people behind it.

With back and forths, and Palestinians still being killed, the hostage exchange between the two sides continues. Here we can see one of the Israeli hostages kissing Hamas militants at the time of his release.

Now the West showing its true face. Yeah, Ukraine, you know the war we pushed you to fight that you lost, and hundreds of thousands of your men died? Here's the bill, 500 billion dollars, you can pay it back in comfortable installments with their pertinent interests. Plus we will own half of your natural mineral resources in perpetuity. You're welcome.

I was just explaining what the terms mean. In this case, if one of the two sides doesn't want a peace deal, the war continues. Don't expect a ceasefire though.

First, we gotta differentiate between a ceasefire and a peace deal, they are not the same. A ceasefire mainly means that shooting each other stops, the conflict freezes at the state it is, and nobody grants the other any of his long-term claims or aspirations, there's no agreement. There can be mutual concessions like prisoner exchanges or other things. A ceasefire will not happen in this war because it's not in Russia's interest to have it, they can continue the war, and at the current state, it would only give their opponents time to rest, equip, train, and be more prepared than they are now, making it more difficult for them in the future. It only happens when both sides need it. In a peace deal, the fire stops too, but the two sides agree to new borders, or to go back to the old ones, and the military apparatus moves from an offensive status to something more defensive or latent. There's a mutual attempt to ensure none will attack each other. The losing party usually has to accept some level of control, ask Germany or Japan if they were allowed to have nukes after WW II. If any point of the agreement is broken, there are consequences. Are there total guarantees? No, but usually both sides are tired of dying and it's mutually beneficial to stop. But let's say in 10 years Ukraine elects someone that wants to get the Crimea back, get his country on board, and attacks. Let's say Putin dies and Russia elects another guy that wants Odessa and attacks. Then the peace deal has been broken and there's a new war. But that's the same for every other border in the world. Denmark thought that by being in NATO his borders were secure, and Trump is saying he wants Greenland.

Here you have: So they were told NATO would not expand, but NATO expanded. Was not that an agreement? For Russia yes, for NATO apparently not. Then you have the Minks agreements: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements

It's not just. But you know what else is not just? NATO not keeping the accords it had with Russia when the Soviet Union collapsed. They signed NATO would not expand to the East, which they did to their face too many times. The CIA has been meddling in Ukraine politics even before the 2014 coup, just to confront Russia. Militarizing it to the bones making it a de facto NATO state, the only thing left was the announcement at this point. That was wrong before the Misnk accords, but just laughing at their face after them, why do you sign things you are not going to comply with. They poked the bear too many times, and it finally took a swipe at them. Not only that, but right before and during the war there have been chances to get agreements, but the West has declined all of them until now. Now complain about how unjust everything is. Some of us won't repeat like parrots the skewed narrative the Western media sprouts. That does not make us anti-west or anything like that, I want us to do better. Unfortunately our elected leaders and media are not on that path at all.

What you think or I think does not matter, the truth is those men are dying in vain. This madness needs to stop.

What's wrong with you, man? You asked me if I was a socialist, and I told you I'm a social democrat. Then you didn't answer me the same question I asked you. You don't even know what the other people's ideas in this thread are, but you refer to all as Socialists in the plural. By the way, there is another thread in this forum which title says it's the leftists perpetuating the deaths of this war by supporting Zelensky, unlike Trump and the rightists who apparently don't do. So what is it, guys? Make up your minds about the leftists. The war is coming to an end and Zelensky has been left out of the conversations, probably at petition of Putin. Zelensky is done, he may not go to his Miami mansion in the end.

Yeah, kind of a social-democrat, I would say. Are you a socialist?

Yeah sure, what a surprise, the Western media apparatus not believing the elections where their puppets don't win. Putin won because he confronted an external hostile coalition against Russia, and is winning the war against Ukraine.

No, I believe your fake ones.

Is @Bobby_2021 permanently banned? He's been gone for a while.

The Russian elections had almost 80% turnout, of which almost 90% supported him. His support is overwhelming, and they voted based on this issue, which is the most important right now. Zelensky can ratify the support he has when he is ready, who by the way has banned a considerable number of political parties. Ukraine is a de facto fascist country that doesn't even hold elections and persecutes anyone who opposes the war. His tyranny will end as soon as the Western flow stops. He'll probably escape to London or Miami, where he owns extremely expensive homes, that's my prediction, but we'll see.

Putin just won the elections overwhelmingly, in the middle of the war, which clearly ratifies its policies by the people, and this is the most important issue for the country at this moment, so they voted about it. He has the popular support, and the military and economic capability to continue easily longer than it's rival, which is why it will win the attrition war.

No, I'm talking about the reality of the war. You are talking about expectations that there are no signs they are going to come to reality, if they do, I will grant it to you, and Ukraine will recover all its territory including Crimea. It's not happening.

Man, you're going sideways in the conversation, to who knows where. If Ukraine can win this war, that's what will happen. If Russia can win this war, that's what will happen. The second is truth, it's a matter of observation.