Key Elements

"Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense." --Buddha

@Leo Gura @Key Elements Hey Leo, just wanted to say, have fun with the foods and other things...im not brute forcing anything.

@Leo Gura All that you've said here reminds me of the story of Buddha and Angulimala, the cerial killer. He cuts his victim's thumbs off after murdering them. I'm posting a version of the story below. However, that's not the version I heard. The one I heard, Buddha decided to give Augulimala a second chance at living with society and dresses him in simple yellow robes. The society (villagers) welcomed Augulimala not knowing who he was. Augulimala, while living as an ascetic, started feeling really bad that he committed all those murders. When he confessed openly, the villagers killed him.

True...unless you make the base of the pizza naturally with wheat dough. It depends on how you make the pizza.

Create an educational startup online and try to grow it. That's yellow stage on the surface. Your choice. Best of luck.

This is a clip from Ralph from Infinite Waters trying to answer this question. I find him very informative. He answers all kinds of sensitive questions in a pleasant way to show that "we don't have it as bad as we think." That's the message I'm getting from him. At the same time, I also look at him as another startup, and I noticed that he attracts many subscribers by his pleasant style of speaking. It makes me think about how to approach my startup.

@Wouter I already watch Ralph's clips sometimes. He's awesome. If I subscribe and 10 clips come in my e-mail in a week, as someone said, I wouldn't be having time to watch all 10 within the week.

I was about to subscribe to him, but you're saying he makes 10 videos a week? I probably don't have time to watch that many videos, but looking at it from another perspective: he is so full of energy and spirit put into his work. It's play to him (and not work, no struggles), and that's great. I also look at him as another startup, and I'm an educational startup - different from self-help. Looks like people tend to go easy on startups that have pleasant vibes and say that mistakes are ok - have a look at his comment areas.

Nice story. I always thought that flies are cute in their own ways. I love animals, but after watching them for a minute I wave them off. I like their eyes; I like how they see the world, although I wouldn't want to be one of them. They are very useful in keeping our environment clean by their process of eating cadavers. That's what I think of when they land on me.

Tell you something else, Leo. I felt that the ah-ha moments with your clips were really huge and not minor at all. It got me to look for more ah-ha moments elsewhere, but at the same time, as of now, I train my mind to be more into the flowing/egoless state to do my startup (life purpose). What an interesting process and how we run into so many things along the way. It will always be the process and ah-ha moments.

@Leo Gura Leo, I like what you said here. Paradigm shifts on a mass scale isn't easy at all. This reminds me of when I was watching your enlightenment clips, and on one of them you mentioned, "ox's tail," ever so briefly, and I had an "ah ha" moment to look it up and researched it. Then, I noticed a big "ah ha" moment when I found out about "riding the ox backwards" and how I was passing that off as a dream. The clips are so watered down to fit the mainstream. After a person makes paradigm shifts on any area in life, it's so hard to talk about it with anyone because the person is so misunderstood. I'm sure others in here are experiencing this in your forum. It makes me think twice on how to do my startup. Graves model was another "ah ha" moment for me. Two other clips where you use the word cockamamie also were "ah ha" moments for me. I hope you make clips with more "ah ha" moments, but I wish they were not so watered down.

Be careful next time. There's a saying: "The reason why so many financial advisers are called brokers is because they are often broker than you." -Robert Kiyosaki And, they'll put money in their pockets for their own benefit. I recommend reading, Guide to Investing by Robert Kiyosaki so you could build your own business online or think of a creative way to invest. It's the best book I've read and an easy read. I read it twice.

To me, Leo is very bold to speak out about enlightenment, especially this week's video, "The Benefits of Being Enlightened." It isn't always easy to do because of the audience, but one just has to learn and move on without ego . Below are some more helpful tips from the two other Spiritual/self-help teachers. This is if you're interested in making Spirituality as your startup or part of your startup.

That's what I'm saying.

Well, I also wish the same thing, but hey, it's worth the effort because the person improves by leaps and bounds trying this way - actions + unconditional love + peace of mind (no-ego) + paradigm shifts. I understand it's different for everyone. The life purpose that comes along is well worth the effort. It takes time...maybe a lifetime. (btw, it shouldn't.) To me, it's worth it because life is just a glimpse - blink once and an entire life passes. We have this one life...why not?

By your actions...Esp your loved ones...when they see that you've discovered your life purpose or on your way, they start taking you very seriously - they try to understand you - more communication - and in turn, they change (for the better). What I just said, may not work for everyone, perhaps, but it's sure worth the try.

@Leo Gura How do you define a "3rd World?" Many people living in a "3rd World" are living at Orange stage and just down their street there is a five-star hotel - very lavish. Yes, I agree with getting rid of ego as much as possible and education reform - at a certain point develop a person's talent with their passion instead of just what is marketable. Change the world through your life purpose after getting rid of the ego.

@FocusOnTruth Ok. I get what you're saying. To me, his enlightenment clips are very basic. There's a lot more than that. But, I like it cause it's easy to understand - I no longer have to pass off my enlightenment experiences as dreams thanks to Leo. The no-ego = meaning peace without any human emotions other than peace is hard to understand without enlightenment experiences or studying enlightenment. As for his other concepts on relationships (co-dependent, independent, interdependent), Maslow & Graves model, and being post-rational, these things will probably fall into place for someone with a lot of life experiences. It did for me cause I immigrated to India from the US, and also cause I'm a startup. If I looked at Leo's clips a few years ago, most of it wouldn't have made sense to me.

What do you mean by "group think?" Here's what I thought when I read this. I use what Leo says as a guide, not as ultimate. Leo, like the rest of us, is a map, not the territory. In many areas, he's a great map, but I had to adjust it to my territory. Also, just because a person lives or works in a group, doesn't mean the person cannot think for himself or herself. We will always be in a group, no matter what. One example: as long as we're humans and embodied, we will always have a relationship with earth - we can't destroy it and do whatever we want with it.

@Leo Gura Just thought of something while looking at this pic. Can someone who is legally blind who is having an enlightenment experience see his or her own body and everything else around? From what I know, the answer is yes. (Also, depends on where the person is during enlightenment.)