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The momentum to go along with the vibe of the room is powerful

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I like this a lot. But I wonder, some people find solace being around others. Like they really can’t live without them. Me, I’ve felt the desperation of loneliness, sought solace in others again and again, until the pain of being around others outweighed the pain of loneliness. Then I just had no choice but to be alone, or become a homicidal maniac (just kidding I could never) but that’s how much I hated being around people. But you’re right, the most joy I ever felt came directly after accepting suffering that seemed impossible to accept. The more suffering I accepted and stopped projecting and blaming others, the more joy I got, almost immediately after. Acceptance is such a mind fuck because it’s the easiest and most difficult thing to do. Now it seems it’s come full circle and I enjoy being around others because I know they can do nothing for me. You can’t truly love other people if you’re so busy worrying about what you think about them, how you feel about them, if they’re being nice or mean. Real love is watching them as they are and understanding why they’re inclined to behave the way they do. This will not happen if there is a “self”, or what I understood, a “receiver” of information that is watching and interpreting others actions. The “self” is the only problem.

Being around family triggers the ef outta me, even when I’ve made progress spiritually. There is a special demon summoned only in their presence, and its difficult to see through it.

I agree. I had this realisation on mushrooms. I felt stuck in many aspects of my life, and the insight I received was that as long as there is joy (not an ego high but TRUE joy) then you’re on the right track

This hits home. It seems every life situation I’ve been in, it becomes more clear I just don’t belong. But It doesn’t feel right being alone. Ironically my presence definitely has a significant positive impact on people, but they don’t notice me at all. I get bumped into a lot. People walk right into me. Recently I’ve been content with being around others but not socialising as much. It just feels right.

But Enlightenment is not an interest or a hobby, it is the essence of what you are. Why do some people see this and others don’t even acknowledge it?

When I first heard eckhart tolle talking about enlightenment, my entire life was turned upside down. whatever I thought was the most important thing in the world, had absolutely zero importance in a split second. All the confusion in my life was suddenly made sense of by this man that I’ve never seen before. Then I became obsessed with figuring this whole thing out. But when I show that exact same clip to others, I’ve had several responses: 1. They ignore it and change the subject 2. They want to punch him in the face 3. They make fun of him, and it’s very clear nothing he is saying resonates with them in the slightest 4. They acknowledge that it is good advice, but it’s clear it had no significant impact on their views about life. This really intrigues me. How could people have such different reactions to the same thing? Clearly it’s ego defense mechanisms, but how can the absolute truth of who you are not resonate with you in the slightest???

So what you’re saying is…. all jokes aside what you’re saying is the Truth. But the only person who can cause your awakening is you. Nobody can convince you. You can’t work towards it with somebody. You have to be so sick of life that, other than suicide, this is the only option. And the motivation has to be clear and absolute. This is slowly happening in the world. The change you’re talking about will take years. Even if everybody in the world realized the ego bullshit, years and years of backsliding will have to happen before the real changes take place. I think the momentum of the ego is too powerful for it to come to an abrupt stop. It’s got to slow down first. Cheers. And I have to thank you again for recommending that book. Truly a gem. He has a way of knowing what your next defensive thought will be and immediately stopping in its track. I also love how straight forward he is, it’s clear he knows the egos games. Forgive, and then forgive, and then forgive some More. Don’t know what to do? Forgive.

Evening all Leo said this to describe the beauty of consciousness, does anyone recall what episode it was from? I believe the context went something like this: “and people will wonder, what’s up with that person? There seems to be something different about him/her. Whats different about you is you’ve witnessed the beauty of consciousness. That beauty is maddening”. Thnx

Interesting take

Hahaha I love it! Idk..laughing to the point of tears at thing you both find funny? Unable to get a word out cause you can’t stop laughing? Kinda looking forward to going work cause you know they’ll be there? No expectations on how to act/what to say. All the good shit.

All of this. I think I’ve recently come to a point where I feel confident I can do this, whereas it was a real struggle before..always taking everything so personally and shutting down and becoming antagonistic. Especially when I had high expectations that they didn’t meet. Antagonism and shutting the world out solves absolutely nothing.

I can’t help but think about that scene in Shutter Island with the detective finds the cave with Rachel Solando hiding in it. As he’s about to leave he asks if she’s seen his friend, the detective. Her response “Marshall, you have no friends” 😆 #realitycheck

I think the moment you start doing things in the dark, and masking your intentions, then there is no friendship. Anything can be forgiven, like yelling, disagreements, problems, shit talking, but once that sneaky devil shit comes in to benefit yourself at the expense of another, there is no friendship. He’s also talked shit about me before and is generally quick to talk bad about others while ignoring their good qualities. I moved past that because I genuinely enjoyed his company. Most people at my work are like this because the job is extremely competitive and top positions are few and far in between. Promotions are usually done by worth of mouth, who is liked vs who is lazy and incompetent. These things are a big deal.