Puer Aeternus

Ahhh, yeah maybe! 👀 Interesting idea. I think at the end of the day we're all sorta stumbling around in the dark with different concepts and not even really realizing how different they can be! But I definitely agree with your overall read of things

I mean I guess there's levels to the game. "Spiritual people" is a broad category, the deeper you go the fewer you find. You'll find the biggest amount splashing around in the kiddie pool. Just getting their feet wet but not really plunging in, ego and all. Basically greenies who are still just dabbling but have adopted a spiritual aesthetic off of some mild experience✨ Then you've got folks taking the process seriously. These are the silently underrated group who are going unnoticed. They're plugged in, learning, burning, and transcending. Different experiences and realizations. I mean, your description doesn't really sound like "enlightenment". Just sounds like this. It's a process, an expansion, but not an end. What even is enlightenment really? Would an "enlightened" person even refer to themselves as such. Is there every really an end? So yes, if you want someone like @samijiben says that'll be hard to find. Maybe not even such a thing out there beyond the stories and illusions we have in our minds.

Honestly don't know why it can't go both ways. There can be more idiots than we think, but also more spiritual people? Most of us know better than scream from the mountaintops about this stuff, it can end up being not very well-received. So how many other silent spiritual hermits out there just chugging through life that you'd never otherwise notice? I'm not saying it's a lot, but it may be slightly larger than you'd assume. Really humans are a large spectrum of differences. You can have tons of idiocracy but also have more than expected spiritual people.. they're just hiding away in the closet!

I've done this in the past. Find an area with heavy foot traffic. I chose a cozy walkway tucked just off of the main shopping district in my city. Grab yourself some folding chairs, a sign large enough to be readable to foot traffic (and some way to mount it), and optionally a fold out table. On said sign, put some interesting question prompt, new to the city and need friends! , or I usually went with an open ended what's on your mind? Sit back. Profit. Not only is it a great way to sample all of what humans have to offer, but generally those who sit down skew towards the more interesting side of things. It's a great way to skip the small talk. You can do it any day of the week (assuming the location you choose is busy enough). Easy to ask for contact info and arrange more meetups- similarly as easy just to let the no matches walk away with no guilt and never talk to them again. I think one of the biggest benefits is the conversationalist is choosing YOU! You're not doing some crapshoot cold approach or pulling up to a meetup with no idea how interested people will actually be. Caveat to say I've done this only in America, so plenty of obviously people are extroverted or willing to put themselves out there. Not sure if this would be as successful in a more introverted, insular country country.

Ding ding ding! It is a skill of itself to be able to combine a bunch of different teachings and ideas from various fields. Then transforming such an amalgamation of things together into something coherent and insightful for a general audience. It IS creative, not everyone can pull that off! Truly demands a reasonable amount of appreciative feet kissing for all the value that's been provided.

Just kinda is what it is. Just like the HOA doesn't want low income housing in their backyard. Businesses want to make money, tent cities and the homeless can be a detriment to local businesses and tourism in general. And not like there's zero threat to the public too. But that's mostly where it's really bad. Kids in LA having to walk to school through an open air drug market type beat. That's not the overwhelming majority of places though. But people don't want to spend the money or time to invest in an actual solution that gets to the bottom of things. They don't want the collective accountability. So, it gets pushed out of sight. Forgotten, ignored, emotionally distanced from. Where the issues only grows and festers.

I guess it's a win if you want to get homelessness out of sight. Functioning people will be immediately less affected by not having to deal with some of the sketchy ones. But of course, such tent cities are a bi-product of America being what it is? It's not addressing what is needed to be. All it does is sweep the problem under the rug. But yes, let's send a population often intensely traumatized/mental disordered to prison. That way they can have criminal record and spend all day networking and surviving with actual criminals. Cause American prison has totally been proven a great place for rehabilitation... Rigggght?! No. I mean sure they don't have as easy of access to drugs as they once did. But the other potential cons? Would be a disaster if it happens en mass. And it's Trump doing it 💀 you think he's going to imprison the homeless with love? C'mon man.

Valid point whenever I sense narci in the airwaves I always send them to my favorite chat bot professor Dr.GPT

Oh boy 😭 don't bring out the robot secret weapon as your finishing move! Noooooo!!!

Nice 👍🏻 Folks are definitely projecting. The way you go about laying things out and explaining definitely does make it seem like there's negative views implicitly held from the outside looking in. Triggers aren't happening for no reason! But at the end of the day, you're the one who can really know what's up and going on inside! I certainly see the implicitness other people are seeing and am still a bit skeptical still because of it, but I can definitely see what you're saying here too. Ultimately I just don't really know!

@OBEler At the end of the day, I think people are confused about the generalizations you're making. Some of them seem quite off and over simplified. Which of course acts as a trigger and brings people in. But then I asked you about men! And brought out similar type generalizations for them too. I am not sure how seriously you actually take all of them. But making statements that seem obviously incorrect to other folks or maybe even controversial. Does bring out the pitchforks and opens the door to projection. The issue is we don't actually know what's going on inside you. Does this whole thing not really matter much to you?! I'm not sure! Maybe it really just isn't that deep. You've given examples of the negatives of both genders, but your ones on females do seem to more prominent. And again, some of the quite off and oversimplified. Which of course, brings out the pitchforks. And I'm not saying they're invalid because there's loads of women slander here. A lot of the guys doing it match a similar profile.. they have lady issues. It's easy to see a similar thing and transfer this to you. But is this you? Do you really have issues with women? Or is it just the structure, the overgeneralizing at play that's causing it all. I'm not sure man. That one's really on you to figure out! And only really you can know/figure out. But I would consider not brushing it off 100% Give the mirror at least a little look, could something really be there? Let me just make sure. Just to be safe, to be through.

Definitely give LATAM a shot if Asia doesn't work out for you and I saw you mention it too! WAY easier to establish permanent residency. Paraguay and Mexico are probably the easiest places on earth to get it, but the other ones aren't that much harder. There are definitely some chill, more stable, and progressive pockets. Chile, Costa Rica (though it's the priciest), and my top choice Uruguay. They also have something called Mercosur, which is similar to EU freedom of movement. Once you have PR it's much easier to move around, work in, and even immigrate to other members states if you want. Paraguay, Uruguay, Brazil, Bolivia, and Argentina are full members so I'm pretty sure this applies to them. There double the number in associate states, but they don't have full members rights so it'd be more case by case for them. The biggest issue is you'd probably want outside income coming in from an online business to live there, local salaries aren't what you could get in say a Korea/China. Just a bit of an extra info dump cause why not

Yep, but why not have both sides? Be open minded, have ideas in the back of your head but be cautious with them. Wait to see if they apply or not from experience with that person. If they do fit, then you've got a mostly useful shortcut. On the other side if you've got an overgeneralizing tendency, you just put someone in a box immediately and without necessarily intending to. Sometimes it'll be right, sometimes not. And can cause frustration/tension when you're thinking/acting/maybe even telling someone that they're a way, but this clashes with the reality of who they actually are. Then it can become confusing to crawl out of that assumption.

I think I actually understand it now? I think my biggest beef with you is the generalizations. I've just seen you make them about women and got triggered. But really they're just there across the board! Cause I 100% know a shit ton of men with wild variations on all these listed traits. Maybe some are more heavily in favor of men than others but like.. Not being insecure? Knowing we have power? Not playing the victim? Being able to forgive? Even the loving facts and information bit. Even the whole not liking drama bit too! I'm feeling quite 50/50 on in. I definitely see a lot of it but also not a lot for many of them.

That's interesting, Because I don't really sense all men are the same. Sure, there can be plenty of overlap and that's probably what you're look at, ya? And honestly, people in general tend to mimic each other and their personalities for social/cultural reasons too. But there's definitely more than just the similarities! With great similarity also comes great variation. On what core things would you say all men are the same though? I personally feel like some freak intergender hybrid mix between the two genders, although I just happened to have a rudder. So I definitely don't know.

Yes it certainly is very important! Current cultural narrative definitely isn't right, we are not all equal. Beyond even gender too! Easy to assume everyone is like you but it can be some spooky stuff to realize they just aren't. To such an extreme that I try to figure out if some of that maybe a distortion of my reality. Of course I am aware of my own projections on to them, seeing truly for what they are will hardly be possible. How do you contend with this? How do you try to stop yourself from getting bogged down in ideas that just aren't real? It can be a tricky thing, I've definitely experienced it myself! Yet, its kind of necessary to an extent isn't it. Trying to grasp for something we can't reach. I much prefer to just leave things open and take it case by case for each individual, with maybe some ideas for reference in the background. I am also curious to hear your criticisms of the male gender? If you don't mind going off topic a bit! I have seen the female critiques a lot from you but not the reverse, and I suppose that has biased my view against you. Do you have any? I'm just allergic to the gender wars shit and it can give me a reaction. It can be easy to yap on about the other gender when its really some deep seeded psychological stuff going on underneath.

You were right the previous times but I'm as calm as a clam right now. Your misunderstandings were what did it back in the day! I'm telling ya man, there's just something off with how you go about this topic. You present things very rationally. I'm just looking for truth, we're just having a discussion, etc etc. But underneath that? Somethings a lurking. The way I've seen you talk about this previously. The takes. How you can bend evidence to support your opinion. What you're saying isn't devoid of truth but does it represent exactly what you think it does? I don't think so. I think there's something there under it all. What it is? I've got no idea, I don't know enough to say. That one's up to you!

I do believe you think it's a discussion. But to me, in a discussion both parties are open to changing their mind. From what I've observed here in the past on this topic, don't think that's going to be happening.

When will you get tired of this obsession. You keep coming back to this topic. You talk only of ideas that feed your own narrative and it's obvious to anyone who isn't you. It has irritated me in the past to see you hurt yourself like this and I'm sorry for that. But I am not irritated, I just wonder when this will all stop? If it will? What is it really about? It isn't about the truth. And I'm not going to argue with you on that, because it will go nowhere. This men care about truth, women don't. You can make disclaimers that I question if you even mean all you want. What is this really about? Eh? Good luck.

Fair enough man! 🫡 Shoot on that intuition! It defo won't be getting better here, that's pretty much for damn sure. Not like you'll be losing citizenship if nothing immediately works out anyways. I actually really want to go to Mongolia as well, so cool you got to visit!

Honestly mate. You've made a lot of valid points! I could consider myself an "INFP" and "HSP" as well. I've definitely wanted to escape America in the past. I've done a decent bit of research in the past. Unless your career paths aligns with a country's in-demand skills, you have remote work/online business, or are planning to marry someone. Immigrating for permanent residency most places is going to be a pain in the ass and require STEEP sacrifices. Maybe you have one of these things! Then it's much easier. Just need to line things up. It's a classic saying. But everywhere really does have problems, there's not really a "great" country who's got it's shit together. It's all just subjective preferences but all places will have something that makes you go wtf. I think what you're doing is great! You're going to teach English or something else? You can move around many places in SEA teaching.. Vietnam, Thailand, Taiwan, even Japan doing so! So it may be nice to get a feel. Although actually getting permanent residency in many of these asian countries can be.. complicated. But it gives the vibe like you're still relatively ignorant of many ugly sides of these cultures. Try to catch the classic American thing of demonizing your own culture and pedistalizing foreign countries. They're fucked too you just haven't experienced it. Especially Korea I mean I'm not trying to do spoilers for you! You're going to go, experience it, and figure out if it's a deal breaker or not. But Korea has some GNARLY SHIT. Both politically and culturally. Alternatively, you can always do that thing and move to a blue state and/or progressive city. PNW, Midwest cities or Minnesota, New England! All are better and negate some of your issues. But ultimately, I think I'll be staying here for the medium term at least. I think it can be insightful too, to integrate your opposites. To accept the shitty aspects of this place and be able to roll with the punches. But maybe that's not the direction you need to take things in right now! I think it'll be fun and useful for you to explore and it'll end up pointing the direction of your life. Good luck man! Wish you the best with it all.

Nah man, you just like categories. You don't seem to be very flexible with them either. Slick edit btw, trying to cover that up lol.

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