PolyPeter

In fact, if studied deep enough, it will erase your identity as a limited human being You can become God, living as a human which is different than just being an endoctrinated human

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a human goal could be to know about existence! Actually, is the nature of the human to ask questions, but as we grow up we are conditioned by our culture the curiosity is baked in you can decide to develop it or not, that is what separates a truth seeker from the conformist but it takes a lot of effort so, I would say people dont give a shit about this matters bc they stopped questioning reality as they grew older, AND because it takes a lot of emotional, cognitive and material effort to do so

This caught my eye You said you don't care about teachers, only about getting people to the consciousness you know exists. But consider: if a teacher with ten thousand followers actually reaches those states and comes back changed, their students don't need convincing. They don't believe it because you said so. They update because the person they already trust went somewhere real and returned different. That's verified experience propagating through existing trust networks. One awakened teacher might do more for your goal than years of direct outreach. And yes, most teachers don't know how deep this goes. That's exactly the point. Imagine what happens when they find out.

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do you beleive in generational karma? or past lives? what if you already integrated and faced the things, wouldn't it be silly for someone else to call you out on something you already worked on?

I think I told you what i think already and my question has not been addressed. I repeat how does Leo know for sure what's going on inside other poeple's awakenings?

I'm saying that humans can learn, nothing crazy. And also, that quoting something somebody said in 2019 does not say much about that person today, while it could, it is no guarantee. I also saw some of the newer comments, I'm not talking about those. Maybe there are better ways of calling someone out. Directly addressing to the thing you have a problem with, instead of just quotting messages.

this is not a sad thing it shows deep integrity but, in order to study consciousness, you must first be able to function as a human body. Eating, sleeping, exercising, going out a bit. why not also see money as a tool for getting the most out of your awakenings?

Sure. But you also make videos telling people how to do this better. If only one thing gets actualized and the past had to be exactly one way. what's the point of the advice? You can't hold both. Either design matters, or it doesn't. I think design matters. That's why I'm pointing at it. not to make you cry over the past, but because you're still teaching people how to walk this path.

This is the most intriguing line to me. Who assigned that responsibility? Did someone tell you? Is it written somewhere? Or is it possible that this is a story you built around a very real and profound experience, and then elevated it to cosmic duty? Because there's a difference between 'I felt called to go as deep as possible' and 'it is my responsibility.' The first is honest. The second needs a source.

And precisely because this was never about money, money should be handled first. As a prerequisite. Not because it matters spiritually, but out of respect for the awakening itself. You don't want the most profound work of your existence interrupted by human logistics.

I never said anything about regret. Regret is backwards-looking. I'm talking about design. And I genuinely respect what you built. I'm building on top of it. But "it was necessary" and "it was optimal" are different things. You can own a path completely and still notice that a cleaner design was possible. Those aren't contradictory. The set and setting principle doesn't stop at the room and the music. It extends to the whole life container. You teach this. I'm not saying you failed, nor saying that in your place I would have done anything different. I'm saying you made it harder than it needed to be, and then used that difficulty as part of the narrative.

I understand and respect your path, but you can own your decisions. There is no reason to do a 90 day 5-meo mega trip, while also working as a human, this is a recepie for suffering. Why not treat economic independence as part of the preparation, the outer set and setting, before diving into 90 days of the deepest inner work possible? I also have a life as a human. And it has not been an easy life. But I will never use my own personal drama as an argument against other people not knowing the depth of my awakenings

thanks for the kind words. It's been a loooong time since I last had an experience of the kind. My recovery process involved doubling down on meditation practices, and connecting with life in different manners. Also recontextualizing that this episodes of derealisation have no evil quality to themselves, rather, the fear I felt was not the usual "there is a bear coming" fear, it was more like "I've never had this experience in my life, I don't know what it is, and I don't feel particulary good about this" More like a fear of the unknown The thing that helped me the most was just focusing on expanding my baseline consciousness There was a breaking point though, i think it is worth mentioning practicing meditation everyday, is good but try to build up momentum to the point where you can meditate for at least 40 entire minutes without getting bothered A deeper sense of I AM will prevail just be that and keep practicing that what it did for me was not that it eliminated the episodes from happening in the future, but it allowed me to understand them, by what they actually are. Consciousness can focus on anything. If you focus on how you are focusing too much, probably, you will do that in circumstances where you didn't initially thought about. Like, you can be cooking a meal, and then become conscious of the activity, then yourself, then the entire room, and even struggle to distinguish a thing from another, but also notice, there is ALWAYS awareness. Even during an episode. This awareness will forever remain untouched, since its You, the real You, not the human you. When you re-contextualize everthing as appearance, except awareness itself, then, any sort of appearance will be seen as such, appearance, it comes and goes Maybe another thing that might help right now, is to try and ground yourself with some human things, in order to give yourself a break if you need it

Of course. I wake up everyday knowing that humanity is just starting to know what the word ontology means. The emotional and mental labor of being a human KNOWING the actual structure of the universe, makes it more difficult than just going about life surviving. But it is also a choice (the choice of understanding and integrating). You can choose to chill for sometime. or not.

not at all. I know about the cosmic horror. not from a story somebody told me. direct experience, and I think you know part of my story. what if I know exactly what you are talking about? what if I know even more?

What is the cost? is it your life as a human?

have you ever said something, in the past, and then learned that was not the way?

I'm in love with the universe and I know that learning is possible, even learning that other humans can go further into the knowing than you've been

also, i just noted that many of the quoted things are YEARS old... which is like trying to cancel somebody over something they tweeted 10 years ago... not fair

huh! interesting, to say the least how does Leo know for sure what's going on inside other poeple's awakenings?

yes, I think that's the thing, they don't map entirely bc I haven't studied them deeply, but we'll see in a couple of days! Indeed pretty powerful makes me think of gravitational waves though. a gravitational wave is a distortion in the fabric of space-time itself. When two blackholes collide, the event can be measured from light years away from it, because it creates waves of space-time itself folding and expanding. Pause here and try to understand what this means. SPACE-TIME itself can be squeezed, strechted and bended over itself. Try to imagine what it means just for the dimension of space then for the dimension of time have you ever tried to imagine what a gravitational wave looks like? and how it affects all the things within spacetime? Like, in the ocean, you can have a pretty quiet situation, or, you can have massive waves this waves, are what surfers need in order to surf! but also, big enough waves are what destroy entire boats this might be a little off-topic, but related to your point a space with no wave is empty, begs the question of what is a wave in this context, if it is the fluctuation of some material inside the space, or if it is the wave of space-time itself, which are very different things

This is cool, take all the time needed. This topic is very heavy on the mind, deep contemplation is what gives rise to the kind of insights we are looking for I will look deep into the Nirvana/Sunyata understandings, they point to very subtle and important distinctions

First of all, I feel this (coming back and forth on the ontology details) is epic The huge amount of common ground between our work, simply insane Regarding the other post, yes, i've read it. I was trying to understand how to point the most important difference between your notion of the Void, and my own. Here it goes. You describe the Void as apathy, nihilism, loss of will, the dark night of the soul. That's a real human experience, but it's a psychological state, not an ontological ground. The Void I'm pointing at is something else entirely. It is not empty in the sense of lacking something. It is the absolute absence of any distinction whatsoever, prior to space, prior to time, prior to the difference between something and nothing, prior to unity and duality themselves, prior to your Field. There is no inside or outside. No boundary. No wave. No observer. No observed. Not darkness, because darkness requires light to be its opposite. Not silence, because silence requires sound. Not nothingness, because nothingness is still a concept and concepts require a mind to hold them. It is what remains when every possible distinction, including the distinction between existence and non-existence, has been removed. And I want to be honest about something: the only way to really understand what I'm describing is not philosophical. No amount of reading Kastrup or refining your field ontology will get you there. You have to become it. That means temporarily leaving behind every structure you identify with. Your thoughts, your feelings, your sense of being someone, your topology, your resonance body, everything that makes you Cred. Not as a metaphor. Literally. That's why I said it's not depressing. From the outside, the dissolution of all structure looks like the worst possible thing. From the inside, there is no inside left to suffer it. But I won't pretend it's safe. It requires going somewhere your model can't follow you, because the model dissolves too. Most people who approach it turn back. The ones who don't turn back, come back different.