theleelajoker

Have sex with a woman that is really into you and you are really into her. Enjoy the smell, the touch, the eye contact. Enjoy the foreplay, the exchange of energy, the kisses and the tension before. Enjoy the alignment during sex and the cuddling afterwards. Enjoy being 100% relaxed and in harmony with another human. And then come back and tell me porn is 90% of that experience.

"Chili out, they will show you" "Be a man, approach, they will not come" Hm I am so confused now. Sometimes I approached women, sometimes they approached me. At times she was sending me signals inviting to approach, sometimes more subtle, sometimes less. Sometimes I approached with out signals. Sometimes worked out, sometimes didn't. Sometimes I had to work to advance, sometimes women almost literally fell into my lap. Sometimes nothing was going on for long time. Sometimes I had sex with my future GF first night, sometimes months passed before getting physical in any way. So what does that mean? So confused. My limited mind so much want to know the formula to life! I really really want to label a fixed behavior pattern and follow that like a robot so I have a feeling of apparent control in this fluid world full of mystery. I really really want to shoehorn reality, in particular"women" into a fixed pattern! How can I do that with the uniqueness of people, life, situations and interactions? Please give me some generalized statements that we can discuss, so that I can contemplate and argue about what's the right label! So confused, really need that formula. Maybe gonna ask the guy in Goethes Faust, he founded it, didn't he?

Ahahhahaha love that one. I'm gonna use that hehe 😏

It's true! I've seen a Slytherin once talking to an awakened guru and he confirmed! He looked at the boy and said: "Wrong house. You're fucked. Enjoy sleeping, Habibi"

I'm a big fan of the Medium Three Point Five as well. Most useful model there is IMO

Approx: 1.Vipassana 2. Do nothing meditation 3. Psychedelics including weed 4. Fasting 5. Focused communication with others as the interconnections become clear, the fact that there is an universal mind

Strange. I always thought only people whose left ear is more angled than the right ear can awaken👂

Same here, learning from your POV as well. Thing is, you do insta work, so I assume (lol hehe) that you enjoy that part of culture. So do your thing and only change your approach if you don't, at least that's my pov. I enjoy the counter-culture thing for now, is suits me. But you're right, there the danger of distancing myself too much from it. Happened for sure, it's like salting your food - a little bit is good, but too much and the meal is ruined 😄

Ok bro now I think we could along well even if we have completely different perspectives on life 😂 Agreement on the compliance of happy women that trust you. Great win-win IMO. My perspective is limited re women that are in insta, yes. But your's is limited re women that don't give a fuck about it. And I like THOSE women quite a lot. Doesn't mean I exclude other women, I once dated a girl working as model and artist, selling herself and her art on Instagram. And saw what kind of life Instagram mindset creates. It's just not for me. Also, I have traveled, lived, worked abroad quite a lot. Your POV seems to be primarily western, American even? While insta is a worldwide thing, you can get to know amazing women that don't care the slightest about social media, and more easily outside Western culture. So there's an automatic selection process: for some women I'm thin air without insta because it's important for them. For some, they like insta and like me because I don't use it, they are intrigued by the difference. Others don't use it and like me because we that in common.

@LordFall you see, you like anyone else including me, you build your model of the world on assumptions. For instance, asking me to show my IVE on Instagram includes shitty assumptions. First I don't care about showing off IVE and second, don't use Instagram or anything similar. Another example: you throw in names of some dudes or some called dating coaches and draw a comparison. I don't know or even remotely care about these guys or what they do. And why the heck would I want to replicate the life of someone else? I live my own life with all my little success, failures and everything in between. Where we 100% agree though, is the beauty of women and how much they taught me about a lot of things. We disagree again in calling it "shit tests". I call it things happening. Where we agree again is the "turning into princesses". There's few things as satisfying than a softness in a woman's voice, touch, her whole energy when you as a couple managed to create this magic. But for me it's not a one way street, it's her job to contribute to this as well. Princess has to work for a prince as well, and when both do it, it's a beautiful dance.

Nothing I love more then people explaining other people how to do their dating life lol You have some good arguments, but it's just generic stuff. "Work on insecurities, don't get stuck in one MOP, develop your character etc" As if I say "you need to find someone that offers a good balance of having things in common, but also differences where you can learn complement each other from. Don't make money your priority, but it's important to live freely. Have a structure in your life, but don't get stuck in routines. Don't go for looks only, but there needs to be sexual attraction. Find a woman that is loving but also challenges you" etc etc. You have your way of doing things, I have my way

Bro, I'm gonna out myself now - you're one of my favorite forum members here : ) Often I don't agree with your POVs, but many of them are a out of the box and quite a few open up a new perspective for me. For instance, I believe instinct is not only nervous system activation but also a from of higher intelligence. But it doesn't really matter, it's just words and we could spent a low of time for clarification what nervous system activation means for you and me. For instance, is nervous system only the senses or more? If only senses, then my imagination in the tiger scenario shouldn't change anything...etc etc. But as I said, doesn't really matter, now it's us simply making up stories. Also, re the "how to talk to a woman" you described above, I partly agree. But I also noticed women are leading A LOT re conversations and interactions, they just do it MUCH more subtle.

Just to give perspective: I have seen the "activate nervous system" you describe happening many times. But also: I have experienced great dates with the opposite, when the main thing was to relax and to clam down together. Moral of the story for me: it is what it is, it's always a unique person and situation.

I have another one that has not been named yet. And as said above, I also don't watch videos without context. The one quality that has not been named yet is caring. Caring about the world and other people. Genuinely doing your best to make the world a better place. It's an emotional energy I have experienced in three different women this weekend, and each time it was sexy as hell. And I don't talk about pity as in "oh I have to take care of XYZ this poor thing" but rather a determined "this sucks what can we do about it to make it better"? And re the other way, I have experienced that women seem to be more attracted to me when I genuinely care about the state of the world and ideally take action. Has to be honest and authentic, of course.

There's no one sided coin. It is what it is, move on. Sometimes I act like a scared 5 year old and do nothing except blaming myself for not acting. Sometimes my friends look at me as something lien a role model re approaches. Sometimes in between. If recently saw my friend fail miserably at flirting with a bartender over an extended period of time. We switched bars, and 5 minutes later he was charming, bold and funny as you can get with another girl. As @aurum said, state matters. Contexts matters. Randomness matters. Etc etc It is what it is. Be happy

Don 't ask us, ask the girl. Don't make a plan, be in the moment. Follow your heart, listen to yourself and her signals, be authentic and honest.

I'm not a Ralston expert and only superficially know his work. But one thing that stands out and that I like about his POV: he puts power into our own hands."stop doing that, you're creating it" --> if you only start to think like that little bit, it's empowering.

Reading this reminds me of two experiences I had last year. Some months ago, I took a medium to large dosis mushrooms and went for a walk. After a while, I entered a state that felt completely new for me. My nervous system relaxed, tension I normally feel in everyday life disappeared completely, and my thoughts were very clear. I noticed this state, was vey much aware of it and began to wonder about this new experience. I thought about things I want to do in my life and all felt easy, clean, sharp and totally doable. Suddenly a thought occurred and I felt I 100% understood what was going on: "This is how I feel without fear in my body!" There was another time I took shrooms at around noon. I went through some emotions and experiences during the day and in the early evening I was coming down. Some friends asked if I go out with them. I felt only some afterglow and was in adventure mood to interact and to explore outer reality after my trip. We went to a restaurant and there was a girl at the table in front of us with some friends of her own. We had some eye contact and as she was about to leave, I approached her directly. There was some interaction and I got her number. Some months later, after being too scared to approach some women, my friend reminded me of this past interaction. He said: "Strange, back then you had zero problems approaching here! You were hyper confident, determined and mega calm. Half joking, half serious he added: You acted like a psychopath!" I forgot about those situations, but reading this thread reminded me. I don't know if it's a trade off like @Breakingthewall says, but there might be something to it. Some evidence is the situation with the girl back then: she actually texted me later but I never met her. I realized that I had zero interest in her. Don't remember many other occasions, if at all, where I was the one approaching but never followed up, it's very untypical behavior for me. Which indicates that I must have been vey much out of touch with my true feelings back then. Which is aligned with the idea above re less understanding and less connection...

Honestly and curiously asking: Who? I either forgot or haven't encountered such people What's the reason(s) you give them credibility to even consider to follow their words without using own common sense? Edit: I followed some stuff without questioning myself of course, too. Probably still do re some things unconsciously. But it was never a single person, it was more following ideas established by society in general.

Yeah, I would say that Ralston seems to lack...compassion? That words seems right. He is so deep in his own reality tunnel that he either forgot or even never experienced the challenges you mention. A friend of mine visited one of his courses in person and he (Ralston) seems to lack certain empathic qualities...at least from time to time.

Quite the claim to say his view is "flawed". HTF you know that? What purpose does it serve for you to think that way? What consequences would happen if you reverse your POV by 180°? You don't need Leo for that. It's super the most basic common sense there is, isn't it? There's not a single person whom I attribute just a tiny speck of credibility who says otherwise. Seriously, I can't think of anyone that goes "Don't use your own common sense, don't make your own experience, following me blindly and never question" And for the ones now saying "what about religion or sects" I refer back to tiny speck of credibility and the common sense you're born with as a human I pointed out above.

I think a HUGE problem is that people rely on "teachers" they only know from videos, or stories or similar. Guys, you know the part this person wants to present as their online personality, not the person itself. And the sheer fact that this person sends videos as a one way street, without live resonance and feedback - that should already tell you something.. First person, real life experience. Live experience over an extended period of time. Anything else - what do you even expect?

Re content, I agree. But I don't get the context. My point was that re @CARDOZZO it is not plausible to make a post about "lot's of sex or sex opportunity doesn't make me happy" while saying sex is not a priority. People that don't have sex as priority don't use dating apps, or if they do they don't have 30 contacts and 20 matches (don't recall the exact numbers) re sexual contacts, and they don't do posts about their sex life in a forum. They don't approach many girls, they don't have an approach or philosophy about how to talk to girls or how they get to sex, because their thoughts don't touch these topics so much. It's like saying "I don't care about football" while being in a football stadium watching a game lol

1) OK 2) Careful with assumptions about my dating behavior. Also in is forum I have argued in favor of authenticity, honesty and against manipulative pick up behavior. I agree, lieing and playing games is a huge energy drain 3) Having a tinder profile IS already a sign of priority of sex for me. I don't have one (any more ) and some of my ffriends also don't. Other friends do use it because it's a higher priority for them to meet girls to have (the potential for) sex

Aren't you the guy that posted the stuff about all the Tinder and Whatsapp contacts that want to fuck with you? The one that said you achieved the pick up dream but realized it doesn't make you happy? (I'm paraphrasing) Can't believe you got to this point without giving it a priority in your life.