theleelajoker

Good advice. Was thinking about doing a bit of LSD but postponed it until I am stable again. Groundings also makes sense, I was feeling very dream like and that's not vey functional for everyday life and work. Love the sentence "partner we search most aligns with our inner woman". My gf does help intuitively, even if I sometimes have resistance. Must be the mirror experience for her. Quite interesting dynamic and I am very curious to explore this further. You say she can help particularly re Sex. I have ideas why you say that, but can you clarify pls?

Thx for sharing. The tension release I feel too, it's really great. And I can feel the correlation between psyche,body, tensions and letting go. It's all one big puzzle. There are many ways to meditate. Watching breath or just sitting, doing nothing I can really feel how energies start to move. Body scan is currently a bit much but was highly effective during retreat. But everybody is different. My first two retreats had some boring phases. But during the last one so much came up, so much happening that boring is the last word I would use to describe it 😅

@Hojo First sentence I get and agree. The rest is a bit murky. Ok, void, creation, completing polar energies, creating life... I don't get what this means in practical terms except "have passionate and loving sex together"

Nice. It's sometimes easy for me to fall into the "I know" trap. I agree also with "come and see how I act". First person experience of actions instead of talking or writing, making Videos etc Wordless, pathless, effortless is a very nice guidance. I'll keep that in mind. Thx

Good point. I would say: Trust you instincts when to and how to act and when to observe. I believe noone should or can even change one's karma. So maybe person X needs to be locked away or killed bc it's the experience they need to develop? Who knows. Not saying you should never act. Not saying you should always act. Don't be dogmatic but be present and adjust to any situation.

@ExploringReality My experience: be careful not to become to prideful, not too judgemental. Not identifying too much with the "me against them" and "I am doing the real stuff" attitude. You can still make a change without feeling superior. And spiritual green juice is not per se wrong IMO. You have a partner, kid, nice, nephew etc? I can be clear, calm, focused as hell and still care, and still be moved by them

I have very similar experience. For me, talking to people in these states feels like taking to previously unconscious parts of me. Reminds me a lot of the inception scene https://youtu.be/eo5AV4ve7Nw?si=BqF7Hz1RYiJzW0y5

Nice text. Lots of stuff resonated. For me personally, I like to add a bit of playfulness whenever I am able to. Otherwise everything becomes so serious and I had more then enough serious thoughts and experiences so far

Thx for sharing

Statement 2 is sth that I realized just short time ago. You can't influence what appears/ happens. Only choice is to resist or to do it. And re your previous post: I had indeed many many times the experience of God protecting me. It's like jumping from a cliff and then realizing that someone had built a net to catch you long time before you even considered jumping...

Yes, I too believe that location matters. I am aware that much of my development is only possible because I have privileges that allowed me to do what few can do. Yes I overestimate their level of openness, readyness. It's a problem because it scares people away. Imagine someone wakes you up with a bucket of water vs. gently touching you. It's also a problem also because in such situations I place awareness and intention OUTSIDE and on result instead of focusing inside and on what I want to express. Expectations are created, and that creates resistance, and thinking etc. Inside vs outside and expect vs express are a programms that I am changing step by steps but it costs me and others lots of energy in the past. Over time and with many failures there is of course progress. My impression is that deeper exploration of my inner world let me become more and more skilled in communication and seeing my potential influence or its limits

For me: I know it when I see it. Typically, I am too optimistic

Go make your experiences. Do whatever you feel is right. If you suceed, I congratulate : ) If you find that you are feeling like Don quijote fighting the wind mills - don't take it personal. That's just the way the cards have been stacked

Yes I feel like sharing too. But I learn to see it like that: The knowledge about basically everything is already there. Everybody can read Stanislav Grov, Yogasutra, Buddhas teachings, etc etc etc. Everybody could so shadow work, therapy, meditation etc. But few are doing it. So why is the world they way it is? Because everything is a process. Same reason it took me many years and different people for me to slowly wake up (still doing that, oc). It's like playing a puzzle. Imagine you come and tell this person how to do this. No fun for nobody. If they ask for support - that's sth else. I also like Alan Watts quote: "When you dance, you don't dance to get to the other side if the room as fast as possible. You dance to dance".

Do it yourself. Just do you. To not try to communicate it. Let people disvover it on their own. If they are ready, they will ask for guidance. If not ready, you waste your engery and get frustrated in the process. Why do I think that? Personal experience. Many failures in trying to convey messages. The psycological concept of reactance comes to my mind.

Very true in my experience. Nice words. Impossible for me at this stage to not see that others are parts of me. I am learning that I don't need to change them, can't change them. I feel like you have to let these parts and energies play out. Like you say, just do your thing and stay equanimous as much as possible. While oc also setting and keeping healthy boundaries.

Great question. Remained unanswered so far as I can see?

If not action, then what is the criteria for you to be enlightened?

I think it's a good question. My take is that there are some "rules" to this reality that are - for humans - more or less impossible to break/bend. We need oxygen to be alive, gravity eg. Some can be bend more easily. Placebo effect for instance. Other mechanism are up to our imagination. How we see others, relationships, ourself comes to mind

Like that analogy. Only addition is that it is not only language but all ways we use to express ourselves.

So while I agree, I don't do that consciously. Or at least I haven't found a way to consciously manifest people, event and stories. Don't even know if I want that, absolute control is boring I guess?! So what remains? 1) Try to make the unconscious conscious to get more control 2) Totally let go of control. Go with everything that is happening bc I "know" that deep inside it's me, even if I don't "know" right now 3) Balance in between 1) and 2) 4) ? [Please fill in]

@Princess Arabia I like your idea. Going for real experience instead of stories and hearsay. For me, no I haven't seen that. Neither the process, nor a "final" enlightened person. Moreover 1) A person on a screen doing a video is just that. People only show what they want to show. Who knows what is going on with the persons life outside the video. 2) Same for any book, or audio or whatever 3) For me, the real measuring stick is seeing a person in live in situations that are difficult for him/her. See what and how they do it. "Strictly speaking, there is no enlightenment person but only enlightened action." (don't remember source of quote)

OK thx for clarification. I get your point. Also not being a bit fan of idealistic ideas. I just realized that I spent a lot more time alone than I used to in other periods of my life. (still have a gf and close friendships, though. Not many, but some)

1. Bold marked - this just made me realize one (major?) reasons why I was much less social in recent time. I was doubting myself, but I can see now how my tendency to loneliness is a good thing 2. Can you elaborate on the "Individualism downplays the role of other people in our lives, because... it has to. In that sense the paradigm is wrong." please?

What if starting tomorrow, one pretends that Life is like living lucidly in a Dream? Imagine that life is lived like this: What would you do? What dreams would you fulfill for others and for yourself?