theleelajoker

I thought about that recently, the dreams within dreams. Like fractals patterns, just going deeper and deeper. Creating artificial realities within a existing dream. Media is actually full of movies and series dealing with such ideas ,Rick and Morty is one thing, inception, bandersnatch, black mirror, 3 Body problem. So where did that "people" get the ideas for that? What's the source of creativity? Well, maybe it's because it's more real then our current culture tells us...

That's how life feels for me sometimes. We pretend so that we don't face what really is, because what really is is not desirable. I also think Alan Watts said sth very similar once about the universe and avoiding boredom.

And they have nothing to say on that matter

Like the last statement. Simple and clear

Creepy. And interesting dream, like awareness without a "instrument" with senses like the human body.

Nice share. IMO good practical advice at the end, mixing somatic approach with learning situations. Was also interesting timing yesterday I could see how much a friend struggled with (fear of) rejection. I thought about sending him this video but then he might be ashamed that I can see his shame so clearly? Got to check first how open he's for sth like this

I am familiar with this "who are others" impression and existential fear. What helped me (still does) Physical stuff, movement and / or things you can touch. Play an instrument, some hobbies, play with toys, walk barefoot, cuddle with human/ pet, etc etc. keep in mind to have fun doing whatever you choose to do:) And then: simply time and patience.

Thanks everybody!

Hello together, re psilocybin trips, did some research, and there seem to be a guideline of: One, better two weeks between trips because of tolerance Better to do wait 4 weeks (or longer) Integration seems more of a topic then the physical effects on the body Any experiences & opinions on that? Yes I know it depends on the individual and intention. For me, I really enjoy the effect has on my nervous system and inner peace. Also, the shrooms let me access some emotions and experiences that seem deeply stored in my body/ energetic structure and are very hard to access in everyday life. It's less about the "insights" from tripping for me. I have enough of them for now the focus is really physical sensation and healing. Another thing is micro dosing: Any experiences on that you feel worth sharing?

In France, there's no privacy concern.

Thx. Opening things up is good. Also, pointer is more clear now.

I once had an experience where I could use my awareness to feel something outside of me. I sat down for mediation, and I moved my focus of attention with eyes closed. In front of my head, I could feel something. Clearly outside of the limits of my body. A resistance where my attention bumped against, not a wall but like a smaller object, maybe size of a basketball. I tried to get hold of it, but I was fluid and moved, always changing positions and evading my attempts. It was playing games with me it seemed, it moved in a way that felt for me that whatever I do, it will always be able to evade my attempts to grasp it. Don't know how it ended probably it stopped when I became more sober bc then I was on mushrooms. Never happened again

Happy you had a good time and sharing your experience. But maybe not everything needs to be shared? Do they know they get presented here als "women you met"? Maybe they are ok with it I don't know just wondering One thing is a anonymous story, could be talking about one of billion people. But pictures are sth else.

Hm don't see the difference in who or what for that question? Who or what is to make difference in language, is it human (who) or something else (what). In my conclusion now it's neither, not, or both or (...) all the same. Also don't understand your other pointer? It's perceived and created my 'me', it's both. Not sure what "comes to you" means here

Yeah could have guessed that I am everything I perceive, and I am NOT that what I perceive.

Ok thanks. I already notice identifying much less and a lightness that can come with it. Funny how you say it re judging yourself, it's a topic I discussed yesterday with a friend. What happens to our life if there's no more self judgement, no more "something is not right with me"? Any advice on how to further reduce identify? How do you do it?

Great. Now that you're feeling better here's my advice for you:

@Hojo So you're saying life if like a sinus curve, at first we learn to identify with our emotions, thoughts, body sensations. And it's necessary because that's how me manage survival/ daily life. And how we learn is mostly copy paste from direct environment (see also book "how emotions are constructed e.g.) Then the curve points in other direction and with less identification we reach more freedom? Less reaction, more action?

I approached things a bit differently in the last two retreat. Did not have your experience, but I get you with lot's of things happening Became also reluctant re questions & teacher, they are often like chatbots just repeating a few basic instructions. But also, they have thousand of ours of practical experience. So mixed approach seems good middle way

Feeling better after vent?

And this is so true! I think I neglected that teasing thing a bit recently but it's a great general guideline. Sometimes they play too much with being vulnerable and then I softened up, especially in relationships. But sometimes it's a trap recently I was playfighting with a girl in bed then she screamed "stop it hurts", I stopped but she was faking it and took the chance to get a better position 🤣 So symbolic for some real life stuff. Just got to know when it really hurts and they really need a hug

When I said that stuff, and the next hours, I was high on mushrooms. It might have been a bit voyeuristic, but I was in state where most of time I was just watching them and enjoying their beauty without the intention to do anything other then watching and being there. With beauty I mean also how they moved, how they danced, talked, how their moods shifted, how they became tired, cold, annoyed by others etc. And they seemed to enjoy that, a) they were looking for my proximity and b) sometimes I felt like they did a little show for me. Dancing in a sexy way right in front of me or one time they started to playfully feed eat other like a lesbian couple would do for foreplay... quite the weekend

Yeah well said. And it's easy to fall into this trap - if you somehow grew up in am environment where you came to the conclusion that the "mistake" lies with you, then this POV is just on (unconscious) autopilot for other experience. Bold above marked by me: That's really crucial and often forgotten when people give advice / or look for solutions themselves. And it's a broad range of experiences where this applies. E.g., I have a friend who desperately wants to get better with women, and he admits he's going nowhere despite doing all the pick up stuff, having a coach etc. And for him IMO it's also the case that the tool "just do pick up stuff" is the wrong approach, and the physiological component you mention cannot be bypassed by that method. But hey that's not selling as good as the idea (illusion) of having lot's of great sex with hot women by simply talking to them

Can't speak for others, but I can say with 100% that's my body awareness increased permanently and a lot. The aware/ unaware experience is a spectrum and a lot of previously unconscious stuff enters my awareness. For instance relaxing my jaw I can feel that my heel reduces tension (everything is connected in the body). Or yesterday I did thai chi and I felt super subtle muscles and bowl movements while exercising. Funny stuff Question for people with similar experiences: the more I get aware of subtle stuff in my own body, the more aware I get of subtle stuff in external reality: feelings, words, intentions movements of others etc. Same experience for you? It's crazy how unaware I was before, how unaware others are if their body. Sometimes I see people clenching their teeth in every day life without noticing it, or I have a hand on their shoulder and feel the tensions there, or I hear then grinding their teeth at night and next day they don't know/ don't feel anything about it. I bet if people could feel their body more they would change their life immediately but as long as it's not aware they just create and maintain tensions