theleelajoker

During my last ayahuasca trip, something strange and unexpected happened: I got much less high then I expected. I took another round, still not much happening. It's was certainly not the Ayahuasca itself as the shaman doing it with me got very high. I had a certain feeling, a subtle message that accompanied my experience. Don't try to get into high states, don't seek this extraordinary stuff. Engage with what is. So the your question: Psychedelics or not: How do I create lasting (permanent) changes in my state of consciousness? My answer is: Be aware. Interact. Act. Act. Act. Act. Take action. Be aware. Take care of yourself. Take care of others. Engage in physical 3-D reality. Maximize love for yourself and others. Whatever your understanding of love is - towards any human, friends, family, partner, strangers, colleagues - maximize this. Other then this, Vipassana as mentioned above has been HUGE for me. But it's training camp, not the real game. Action, action, action and awareness is key. Life will put you into situations where you have act. Raising consciousness will happen as result is these actions. ❤️

In support of your statement: http://www.cosmicegg.org/intervista lilly1.pdf Not saying everything he says is necessary true... but re descriptions and explanations of reality it seems to me he did invest a fair amount of time and energy to look for answers...only to realize it's best to stop looking.

Love this 😂😂😂

How you know this? You met every human that ever existed, exists and will exist? Are you telling a story to justify your own POV? See the comments from @Breakingthewallabove. Be what you want to see in the world as best as possible. See what happens.

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Got to get me a new wine bottle opener

What's the alternative?

Sad for whom? Definitely not for me. And why be sad when I'm happy?

So, I was into truth above all most my life. Ok, truth seems to be, we are these appearances and sth beyond these appearances. Truth seems to be, that there is oneness. And what now I'm asking myself? Well, as of today my POV is: either my persona wants to be here, or there is no other choice than to be here. Whatever is the case, I rather take the sugar pill, believe it's medicine, feel good and embrace the experience as best as I can.

"person", as far as I know, stems from "persona", which has associations along "mask" , "shining though", "actor" , "character", "appearance". Giving your profile pic, you probably now this. So as far as I am concerned, these terms are true. I am aware of my appearance, of my persona. Are you saying there is no appearance, no person? Isn't it true that there is something appearing in your field of awareness? I breath,eat, sleep, live, love, cry, talk, etc etc. I look to my right, there is another appearance sitting next to me in the restaurant. And while my persona is here, I rather live as happy and as best as I can, whenever I can. If you know magic tricks to make all appearances go away, let me know I'll watch you performing the trick

What's the ultimate truth in my example above?

This website is what's it's you make it about, Leo does whatever he does. I do whatever I do. Is "truth" objective? Think of the placebo effect, one person believe it's medicine and other believes it's a sugar pill. One person heals, other one stays sick. What do you prefer?

Yes. Doesn't matter if it's true, as long it's useful, as long as it makes you feel better

You writing about slavery and exploitation reminds me: When I came Jamaica the first time some years ago, I noticed a difference in the eyes of many of the Jamaicans, men especially. There was an aggression, an anger, but als sadness that I haven't seen in the eyes of a typical European. At some point I read that majority of Jamaican has historical connection so slavery, and got the theory that this energy in their eyes is (also) the long term effect of this. I recently met a Brazilian who told me she feels like she's still feeling the slavery and repression of her country by the Portuguese in her body and psyche. Bottom line is this: Taking a bigger picture helps me to not see all my pain or suffering as purely personal, but also as a process that has roots in family, culture, history. Less "it's my fault, I create my own suffering" and more "ok this is simply happening, not my choice, not my doing, just got born into this" I can see the analogy re tiger and kitten, but maybe the tiger doesn't need to wake up? Maybe we can evolve to make life less about survival, and more about being happy? And re multiple dimensions: yes that's my intuition, too

Are you happy with this state of reality? Is this reality, or is this how you project reality to be? Are you the one being different, doing things different, are you acting to make a difference? Who cares about "people"? What about yourself?

Yes. Well said IMO. If you are everything, you need to be OK with EVERYTHING. If you are everyone, you need to be OK with EVERYONE. I once read sth, took me many years to even start living it. I had to experience it, gradually, slowly. Still do. You either love everything or you are not loving at all ❤️ When I forget, this song reminds me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_beMNKTL_rc

For me, when I started to gradually realize oneness, to slowy dissolve ego, some questions came up: Who am I trying to impress? Who am I (potentially) cheating, lying to? Who is acually judging? Who am I afraid of? How do I believe it's possible to hide ANYTHING? Is it even possible anyone else is NOT feeling what I feel right now? What's the best, most authentic, most loving, most caring action I can take right now in the interest of all? I am part of all, so how can I create WIN-WIN whenever, wherever I am conscious, whenever I am able to? Not sayin I am doing that all the time..I likely fail as often as I succeed..but it's a direction I am aiming for.

Yes I think so too. It's always updating, always evolving.

IT IS HARD. Took me a long time to deal with shame, lots of shame I was not even aware of, until something slowly started to open up. IS IS HARD, BUT: What you gonna do about it? Keep it hard for yourself? Keep it hard for others? Eat your emotions up until you break? Or be the guy that breaks the fucking cycle? BTW, my experience it not that external reality, others, whatever, will punish you for doing this. Last time I cried in public for the desperation and reasons above, the (male) friends around me all made an effort to be with me, support me. They feel the same. And when I cry in the presence of women, even on a date, most of them want to see me again. I think one of them once said "it makes me trust you". But nothing I say will and nothing I say SHOULD convince you. Either prove me wrong or come back here in few days or weeks and tell me that you had the same experience. Either way, I'll learn.

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Few days ago, I was at rock bottom. You can still find my posts here in this forum where I say this. Really rock bottom, like entertaining thoughts of ending my experience here at all. I became so incredible desperate that I did not see glass half empty, it was completely empty. Since allowing this deep sadness, desperation, loneliness, things are trending in a good direction. So, the lesson I took for me is to allow all feelings as best as I can. Yeah, of course I struggle with that a lot, often. But it gets better. So if I can give you advice? Don't force yourself to learn from the guy that can't breath. Don't tell yourself what you should or should not do. The way it is, it sometimes just fucking sucks. Feel that. Courage, and Oneness is to allow ANYTHING, any feeling. Courage is to also feel like a coward from time to time. Feel and express this, to the very core of your being. And then see what happens next.

Ok this I get. I think it's good advice. Thanks. The other part I don't get. "look at my own fallacies and then I recall that there is someone who struggles to even breath." You mean you can't be happy bc you know someone else is struggling? What you mean about own fallacies? Honestly, I am simply curios (also, ENG = second language)

I am not sure I am following...can you please elaborate?

"Can't share the answer to this question" sounds fair to me. Much better then going in cryptic circles. What I want - beyond the question of how "others" experience reality : Learning how to make the best out of this ("my") experience. Understanding reality. Putting experiences and situations into context. But most of all, the first point. How to create the best possible experience / existence.

Sounds like a contradiction, doesn't it? Ain't trying to wake me up, put end goal of pushing me towards awakening? And then WTF about "no other sentinent beings", then why try to wake up your gf? Why trying to wake up your gf at all if you don't care? Have done enough substances or dope. Yeah, there's suffering, I suffer too now and then, wanted to leave as well. But I am not suffering 24/7. And what else to do but keep going? If waking up is better then this, why go here in the first place?