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This is it mate, you got it. Salvia is the most powerful in that category that cannot kill you as Datura or others. It's very safe medically speaking. However, there is no way you can prepare yourself for a Salvia experience. You just have to surrender fully. Salvia is great and unique but it has a a fee for entrance and that is fear. You can access the weirdest corners of consciousness and reality, granted. The cost is you will experience deep fear, real death and completely losing your mind. That's the deal. I have stopped exploring Salvia and decided to go for the 5meos. After my first real awakening in mushrooms and mdma I just saw that what I wanted could not be accessed easily by regular psychedelics and that I couldn't even figure out anything about the Salvia Experience. So now that I know where to go I just want the direct path to it and that I believe will be 5meo malt. However, I know that I will come back to Salvia at what point when I'm much more mature, just because once you see you cannot unsee and Salvia just opens up something which is unfathomable in contrast with regular reality.
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Yes, I have accessed that state of consciousness but you don't seem to have accessed the state of consciousness that I was talking about. Were by mere surrendering to the divine or what is, that divine presence pours itself into you. Which is a very profound state that can be taped into much easier and that can lead you to the state of consciousness that you are talking about. However, you can access it directly as you said and that is the final goal definetely. But I thought that the point of this conversation was about how my approach would change and what you seem to indicate is probably the destination where I am the divine reality and I'm playing within myself as tools to explore my own self. Yes we can. For most of them, just saying that not with Salvia. That psychedelic is just so alien to regular reality that I'm very unsure that we can access those states with any natural method. Well prove me wrong, I'm open to that and I would be a happy to try a sober technique that allows me to enter into the Salvia realm.
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"The realization of the Brahman is a state beyond joy and dejection. Just as when you see a wet earthen vessel from a distance, you presume it is filled with water because generally an earthen pot of full water looks wet, similarly knowers of the Brahman give the impression of being steeped in joy. But this is not the ordinary joy or happiness. What that state is like cannot be described in words." ~ Sri Anandamayi Ma
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It makes me reflect about the true purpouse of meditation.
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I'm surprised how this keeps being so funny all the time
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I would probably shift to kundalini and kriya yoga to generate those chemicals naturally. Also probably would search for shaktipat or some energy transmition or initiation. Also we would have to accept that some realms of consciousness we would never have access again. For example with Salvia, maybe you can access the same psychedelic states naturally but with salvia is just not going to be the case, or rather such technology has not been invented yet. We would have to go for that which is available by other tools. I would surrender much more to grace as my ability to enter into those states would be far reduced and the divine would have to suply it.
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I've been refreshing more his youtube channel not gonna lie
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As she was moving from ward to ward of a hospital, she remarked: "this also is a temple with God's images. It is He who manifests in the shape of disease as well. In every one of these temples the gods and goddesses are giving darshan. The sense of want, of emptiness and one's true being are in exactly the same place - in fact, they are That and That alone. What is this sense of want and what is "true being"? He and nothing but He. For the simple reason that there is one single seed, which is the tree as well as the seed as well as all its various processes of transformation - truly the One alone. You attempt to appease want with want; hence want does not disappear, nor does the sense of want. When man awakens to the acute consciousness of this sense of want, only then does spiritual inquiry become genuine. You must bear in mind that only when the sense of want becomes the sense of the want of Self-knowledge, does the real Quest begin. Whether you call it the One, the Two, or the Infinite, whatever anyone may say, all is well.
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Davino replied to Billy Shears's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I've tried lots of drugs. I just don't like one: Alcohol. It's just not for me. -
You don't understand relative truths vs absolute truths. This misunderstanding is a common error in the proccess of awekening. Check Leo's video about realtive vs absolute.
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I understand your point. However, you have also said that this works needs to hit you from different angles to really unravel your mind. Why not trying this new approach? If that is what society is looking for. It doesn't matter the wrapping, once they start going down the rabbit whole they will find you. It can be a nice normie introduction to your work, so that it has a bigger impact and has a wiser fit in todays world
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The most important insight I gained from him is the impossibility of grasping the now. He tells again and again that you cannot make a reflexive action to what you are. That even wanting enlightenment, truth or God is starting from the wrong foot. Because reality would never ask itself this maniach questions, as it is already what it is. He cannot make higher abstract sense of what is constantly being the case, it is self evident the case, unmissable experience of existence as whatever is here is what we are searching but we are searching within the play of reality. Therefore he declares that nothing can be attained how can you attain what is always here, how can you grab if the tool that you use to grab is already what you want to grab. I find interesting also that after what he calls the calimity. He forgot even to speak or survive and had to relearn everything from absolute 0 like a kid. Another mind blowing fact that I read from his last letter, My Swan Song: I was very surprised for two things. First of all, I have been investigating the life of Anandamayi Ma for many years. It's the only recorded case in history of someone being bornt fully awake and is called the guru of gurus. Secondly, UG is known for being the most anti everything, the fact that he recognised Anandamayi Ma really made me reflect about his realization. Anandamayi Ma, as UG went through very extreme phisical changes through what she called: when this body was overimposed with the veil of ignorance and played the role of sadhana, how beautiful it is that I have to reveal myself to myself. While UG described it as an horrific experience that no one should ever want, with extreme pain, what seem as radical kundalini awakenings, senses being unravelled upside down and finally his body and "I" disappearing forever. He explains that he was left blank.
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What I found most curious about U.G is that he says again and again that whatever happened to him, happened in spite of all the work he had done before. Also when pushed about that he says: He rejects all gurus, religions, traditions, paths, philosophies, and spirituality. He is often accused of radical skepticism, although he also rejects skepticism. It is important to be aware of this background when listening to him. He deeply questions epistemology and how we can know anything at all, or if there ever was an "I" or enlightenment. It was through a lengthy video that I began to unravel the essence of him. Understanding him becomes challenging when he asserts that communication is not possible, and he has no interest in making others understand. To truly grasp his perspective, a genuine desire to comprehend him is necessary; otherwise, one may give up along the way and miss out on something truly unique.
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Davino replied to Reciprocality's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
After all my self development and spiritual work I thought I would be prepared to die and I would let go with wisdom and peace. Then I tried salvia (called also the backdoor to death) and well I cried and screamed like a baby, I'm surprised I didn't shit my pants. I cried to God, to guru, to anything or anyone that could help me, I was absolutely helpless, wanting to have any anchor in reality whatever it was. All was futile, I was dying and there was anything at all I could do. After death, the experience was interesting, but it pales in comparison with the intensity of dying. I had ego deaths in the past but with salvia you really die... I mean the shit hits the fan and it gets so real. -
Question: Which is the best path to Self-knowledge? Mataji: All paths are good. It depends on the man's Samskaras, his conditioning, the tendencies he has brought over from previous births. Just as one can travel over to the same place by plane, railway, car or cycle, so also different lines of approach suit different kinds of people. But the best path is the one which the Guru points out. Question: when there is only one, why are there so many different religions in the world? Mataji: Because He is infinite, there is an infinite varieties of conception of Him and an endless varieties of path to Him. He is everything, every kind of belief, and also the disbelief of the atheist. Your belief in non-belief is also a belief. When you speak of disbelief it implies that you admit belief. He is in all forms and yet He is formless. Question: From what you said I gather that you consider the formless nearer to truth than God with form? Mataji: Is ice anything but water? Form is as much He as the formless. To say that there is only one Self(Atma) and all forms are illusion would imply that the formless was nearer to truth than God-with-form. But this body declares: every form and the formless are God and God alone.
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Nope that does not work. I have been with an amazing girl for 4 years and after 1 year and a half I had my first awakening. The point is that now she is very interested and after some psychedelic experiences she is definetely more open but it's just not her time. Be careful not to fall on this trap of everyone should be conscious and I'm here to help people evolve. Everyone is in their journey, assist them in their own journey, don't try to inject your values into other people. By your own transformation, energy and sex, she will be more open. Psychedelics are key in this procces to help them have a point of reference to what you experience daily. WIthout point of reference you are fucked up really. It's very important that she has a point of reference of what you are doing but beyond that, it's her life and soul journey.
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I don't think it. It happens. From that experience, thoughts label it as I'm more conscious.
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https://neal.fun/absurd-trolley-problems/ This webpage test will put you in very interesting ethical reflections. It's a very interesting experience, post here your feedback. For me, the questions have put me in very challenging scenarios
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Very curious man U.G. Krishnamurti.
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Davino replied to Vajra's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Deconstruct fully your mind. See for yourself what is here. Delete all that you can, everything. See what is here, totally ungraspable. -
Davino replied to Vajra's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Rigth now I'm clueless about reality. I don't even know if I am alive or dead, how would I know? I don't know what this moment really is. I feel it is ungraspable, this isness cannot be captured in any way, I have failed miserably, eternally shapeshifting, everything seems to come out of nothing, my thoughts come out of nothing, even my body and the whole existence comes out of nothing each morning. I'm having very weird realizations lately, kind of like being existentially mad, my relative framework is somehow intact, it's just the fundamentals, the fabric of reality is leaving me in shock. The very essence of things, or myself is ungraspable, it's total futility, yet it is, and even saying that it is too much. You make sense of it as beingness, but the levels of stories and explanations you overimpose on the experience you are having is insane. I don't know why but lately this stories are just randomly disappearing. What would happen if you were just born to this moment. Fully wiped out clean. What would be this "experience" without the label experience, the "I" without the label "I", thoughts withouth the thought that they are thoughts, existence just as it is, as most fundamental as you can get. It's absurd because you are trapped in it, there is nothing to get, it is all getting within itself, understanding itself, playing in itself, but it cannot grasp itself, it is futile in the end, it's a dog chaising it's own tail. I really don't know anything. If something I could tell you is that your stories and explanations are not it and will never be it, your insights and mystical experiences when gone are just memory, even if it is permanent so what, where can you go? what can you do? What more do you want to be/realize/wake up? It's so total it's absurd, really absurd. You are undoubtedly what you are, yet the mistery keeps playing before your eyes ever free, ever happening... -
Davino replied to Vajra's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Sages describe the state in two manifestations: as self-effulgent silence or as the infinite play of the one.