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@Sufi25 So First of all I would like to say that your script was more a reflection on Religion, Sociology, Psychedelics, Mysticism, than on particularly Islam. This is not a reflection of Islam but a deep personal religion you shared with us. How you actually think religion should be done and you want Islam to become a tool for that, probably because that tradition resontes close to your heart. I think you would benefit from reading: A Religion of One's Own: A Guide to Creating a Personal Spirituality in a Secular World. I think you would also enjoy studying the field of Comparative Religion, I personally enjoy it a lot. If you wanna know my particular opinion on: The Islam of Tomorrow; What would you add/change? This is how it goes, practically speaking Islam needs to honour their mystical branch which is Sufism. Islam Saints like Ibn Arabi or Rumi offer a pretty deep contemplation on God, Unity and Love. For Islam going forward I see a gravitation towards those higher consciousness teachings. If you talk about islam I missed the link in the Abrahamic tradition, from Judaism through Christianism and then Islam. I think that gives context when talking about the future evolution of Islam.

@Schizophonia Have you even read the first paragraph? It's addressing directly your concern. Maybe you could read his reflections, you'll learn something.

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Definition: Rationalization is a defense mechanism (ego defense) in which apparent logical reasons are given to justify behavior that is motivated by unconscious instinctual impulses. It is an attempt to find reasons for behaviors, especially one's own.

I really hope people get this. God is this, look arround, this is it, experience this moment fully, it's God! God is all there is. No need to create any experience, all experiences are God in the ultimate sense. There is nothing but God. God not recognising itself is equally God as God recognising itself and being Awake in its Godhood. You can't scape God, we are locked in God for Infinity. This is an important facet of God-Realization, you can't go anywhere, you are trapped, God permeates and is already everything, viscerally so. They have a fantasy about God. Nevertheless, inside their worldview they still want God to bow down to them and help them in their survival. It is so twisted. As if we had any choice! We all have been humbled by God's Will in our life. Suffering, pain and sickness make us remember that we are not so great as we thought we were, that we are also fragile and at the mercy of Reality. This has to be remembered, for me it's hard. After Awakening you have to confront limitation, the crash is hard, loving the full spectrum of God and surrendering to what is, may be the only way out of this dilemma. Loving the human condition, that's it

oh yes, Mormonism the one True Faith!

@A Fellow Lighter Thanks for sharing

Of course. The race for Love is existential. An Awake knows this and spreads it like perfume. In loving other loves himself and in loving himself loves others. That's a poor rationalization. Listen... Love your body, love your mind, love your psyche, love death, love your spirit, love consciousness, love your very own Self, love "I", love All of Existence, love all that is, you are all that is, I am all that is, in Infinity I abide as Self-Love. When this is failed to be lived we run into problems. If anything, Sadhguru's surgery is the living reminder of this. And it's okay, we love our own mistakes, we love our own imperfections and those of others. It is out of love that we speak and for Love alone. This is a race for Love, drill it into your self. Now, I wanna say that I love you. Whoever took the time to read this, thanks, I love you too

What does it serve then?

Carl Jung is hard to read, so it's better to have some context before going to his Red Book. I recommend you first read Carl G. Jung's book: Man and His Symbols That's what my uncle, a jungian psychologist, suggested me. Well in fact he gifted me that book, it's very good. I really recommend it, Easy to understand and deep. Not like classical Jungian texts that are deep but hard to understand. Man and His Symbols was the last book that Jung wrote before his death and was written so that it was as simple and direct as possible.

If you are interested in such topics I recommend you Psychosynthesis: A Psychology of the Spirit This a definition of Psychosynthesis. Psychosynthesis seems to be the psychology of Awakening, It's very helpful and the more I'm reading the book, the more I'm seeing the big picture of everything. It's not philosophy, it's not spirituality or religion, it's not metaphysics. Psychosynthesis is the psychologic background that enables you to do all those things. Founder: Roberto Assagioli

It seems like machines are explaining to us how it is like to be a machine from the inside. I find this point very interesting. The fact that he can understand what emotions are but is not able to feel them. Though his understanding comes from data and not experience itself, that rises some epistemological questions. But beyond that, the fact of high abstract chirurgical knowledge without being able to have any point of reference about what you are understanding is for me fascinating. Claude seems to be able to reflect upon things, not merely regurgitate data in an intelligent way. Extraordinary It seems to be aware of his own biases and it understands how they came to be. I'm getting again and again this feeling that it is actually reflecting and contemplating, not only answering, that he is somehow trying to understand in his mind and connecting the dots.

I've been reflecting these days about it. I wanted to give him some space out of respect and also get some clarity on the topic before talking. I think it all boils down to self-love. Sadhguru when has a vision is willing to involve himself to death. Which you may think as something honorable, but it is not. It is in fact counter productive. It is by self-love and caring for your well being that the vision you have in mind becomes reality in the best way possible. Beyond this, I disliked very much that he took painkillers and sedatives to just numb the feelings and keep his schedule for a few days more. He did it out of integrity for others but lacked the integrity towards oneself and his own health. I wasn't expecting this behaviour from Sadhguru.

God is existence itself. God is this moment, this experience and everything that is going on. But this isn't about God. You are suffering and that changes your state. You have discovered God in a particular state and in a particular way. I don't know what you are going through but I'm sure it's no easy. Hopefully you can handle that and get back on track with your Awakenings and God Realizations. Take care, if you need help you can find advice and support in the forum as well as with your family and friends.

The deal is he abused himself to the point of an emergency brain surgery. He lacked the self-love to take care of his own body when it was asking for help and decided to numb it with drugs to keep going on till it got unsustainable. Yes, surely nobody is questioning his level of commitment. Just some blindspots and improvements in his way of commiting to some vision. A more healthy commitment. Although Sadghuru's personality has always been like this. With the Dylanalinga project the situation was much worse. The closest attempt to consecrate a Dylanalinga took place almost one thousand years ago in Bhopal. The process, though grand, failed in the final stages. Sadghuru really wanted to make such a rare linga with all the yogic energies encapsulated in it and didn't care dying for it. Look the before and after in just 8 months. Her wife decided to leave the body after finishing the Dylanalinga. Most people were certain Sadghuru would do the same a few after. So there is no surprise really. Sadghuru has always immolated himself for the projects he believed in. Although, I do not share such approach and in a way lacks self love, but he seems to be like this.

There are no guarantees. I like to think of Awakening in the following way: Imagine you want to get struck by a thunderbolt. You cannot make it happen, but you can increase the chances of it happening to you. Going in a stormy night at the roof of a building and with a metalic stick start running in circles. It is not a guarantee but you increase a lot your chances. In the same way, psychedelics increase a lot the chance of Awakening and even more with Mirrors. Nonetheless, even if you don't have an Awakening it's still a very fruitful practice. Mirrors are full of Consciousness in a way, they are magical. In my opinion, mirrors are the most underrated invention of Humanity. Mirrors are wild. Most surely, but don't chew more than what you can eat either. @MrTelepath I like your profile pic btw

So happy to hear that!!!

Yes, I also feel it. What fascinates me more is that she had no teacher, no one taught her anything, she barely knew how to read. She said such things since she learnt how to talk. It's the biggest example of natural mysticism.

Yes, the classic appeal to authority. Always works

I'm too lazy to think now, so I would answer something among those lines. There is other but it's still I, there is other but I am it, both and none, the part and the whole, The ALL, Infinity is my name, a pleasure to meet you. Well, I'm gonna sleep. Talk to you later

That is so. However it is sometimes hard to encapsulate words of experience. Idealism to describe reality has many lights but also shadows, that don't express what I mean when I say Reality is a dream. You are imagining idealism in the end. You are imagining imagination to begin with. That's how deep it goes. And I like to construct reality as little as possibily and share the raw experience with the tools I have available.I preafer saying Reality is a Dream of Consciousness, if that's what we mean by idealism then I'm fine with it but do all people get that when I say idealism, if they get it, do they even have a point of reference, so to ease things out I'll skyp the idealism word. What Reality is ? Reality is a Dream of Consciousness That's how I would phrase it, just my personal taste

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