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You can't never know. But if you don't even know it yourself, then for sure it is impossible. You can intuit it. It's easier to say someone is not God-Realized than to say it actually is.

No, I said that now you at least have a chance. Because before you didn't even have a chance, you are clueless about what God-Realization is. Be honest about that, till you have it you don't know it.

I love it! Indeed a very jazzy quote

There are many angles to the same and in each angle we present there is also a shadow of it. What I mean when I say Sovereign in your dream is that you are all there is, whatever the permutation, that is my very own. I am absolute onto myself. That makes me God within the permutation and in all infinity.

It doesn't work like that, not even in the relative domain let alone in the absolute. How would you know if a painting is a real Picasso or just Art forgery? If you yourself are not an Art expert with decades of painting experience? This is why I told you to realize God first because then you will at least have a chance to recognise God-Realization in others.

It is. If he had more self love he wouldn't have arrived at those extrems. It is a matter of degree. I'm sure he has lots of self love but not in this particular set of decisions he took. It's okay we all make mistakes. Lol not at all ahahhaha. This is getting wild. I have always pointed out Leo's bullshit with the same compassion and ferocity as I have done with sadhguru and so has done he with me. That's how mature conversations go. My takes on God and psychedelics come from direct experience. Surprisingly there is a lot of overlapping in our direct experience. If you did not get what I'm talking about when I say Self-Love, as it keeps being clear by your first paragraph, then I have to point you towards some external souce so that you get what I'm saying. I'm not gonna make you a 2h video explaining what I mean when I say Self-Love. This is not a lack of argumentation but an unwillingness from your part to investigate and learn what I mean when I say that Sadghuru lacked self-love in his actions. It is not in my responsability to convince you or to win this argument, I have already arrived at a deep fulfilling understanding on the matter. If any it should be you that is interested in getting what I'm saying instead of trying to get me again and again into this useless debate and make me waste my time when I'm doing this for you. This is my position: How could this have been solved? Self-Love Why? Because loving your body and self would have meant him taking a rest. Loving himself would have meant listening to his doctors and doing the health analysis. Loving other people would have meant that he had to take a pause, to be able to work better in the future. He would have probably solved the problem earlier and better and would have already been helping people again, instead of spending more time in the hospital and working in severe pain. If you love yourself you are willing to listen to your body and not only hear it and shut it up with drugs. Self love in this way is both what caused the problem and what solved it. This is the reason why the high level understanding here is that Self-Love is what made Sadhguru commit this mistake and what will enable him to get out of it. Because if he doesn't love himself more and take care of his health and life, maybe next time there will be no more Sadhguru and he will die in the operating table. If he does love himself more and take care of his health and life, we'll keep having a great mystic which is comitted to make a positive impact in the world which we all are benefiting from. Hopefully I have been clear this time. Maybe all of this was obvious to me but not to you and it made me feel like you were nagging me.

Agree, but at what price? Could he have done things in a better way? or is sadhguru always perfect? How can we learn from his behaviour? Why are you triggered when his corruptions are pointed out? You should be grateful for that but it's the other way arround you feel attacked and that I'm discrediting him. No. I'm just discerning what is good and learning from what is bad, instead of idolizing him for his good qualities and denying his childish behaviours. I just say that Sadghuru could have taken a rest 4 weeks ago when he started suffering severe headaches. He could have listened to his doctor and make the analysis they were asking him to do. He then wouldn't have needed to take drugs to keep working. Then performing surgery, if necessary, with good preparation instead of focefully entering an emergency surgery last minute. How can you be in denial of all this? He has done 99% of his life well, happy for him, but if that 1% has done shit I'm gonna say it to you, no matter how offended you get, because you are putting him in a pedestal and denying his shadow. The same way I hope that even if I have done 99% of my life well, if I do 1% of shit you come and tell me blatantly, because that's how you grow and mature and that's the Truth after all. That is why I keep answering in a last hope for you to see the light of Truth in this matter.

This was honestly the best it could have gone with that tripsitter lol. This could have ended seriously bad, no joke

Do 5meoDMT & 5meoMalt till you breakthrough. The methodology has been straight since day 0. Have you done any of that? How much? For how long? How deep? You ARE God, how could anyone but you do that job? Another name for God is existence. Let's tackle it from this angle. You exist, isn't it so? Everything right now that you are experiencing is existing. Does a unicorn exist? Well it exists as inexistence. Does the past or the future exist? They exist as memory and imagination, capabilities of the mind and sense making of this moment. Do doubts exist? Yes. Does certainty and clarity exist? Yes So then we come to the question what is existence then? In this way we see that existence is beyond doubt, beyond speculation, beyond communication and beyond paradigm but it is precisely existence what enables all of that to be, to exist. Take a deep breathe with me to reconnect. This is just a little facet of God-Realization that clears the misconceptions you are having, a deep visceral oneness with existence, with all that is, here-now. So if you wanna realize God practically speaking you'll have to start tripping with 5meoDMT & 5meoMalt and maybe these videos from Leo will give you some background, if you didn't already watch them before posting, about what we really mean when we say God.

@Razard86 Good input I have a doubt about this part So could we say that a human has free will as far as he is conscious but has not free will over what he is unconscious of?

Marijuana triggers salvia effects on me, is this possible? Yes, it happened to me few times but only if consuming both in a short span of time. Although, it sometimes happens nervetheless, it is a very distinct flavour when the Salvia kicks in, I can feel it in my brain like after that weed hit something connected in my brain and I feel Salvia. Also take into account that you are having this wild experiences because you still don't have a strong sense of ego and identity formed, as you grow older this vertiginous effects will become more stable and mature.

Increase the dial of consciousness, become more conscious, more self-aware, God will be revealed in his always already presence. I agree with many things you say but there is a trigger moment where you realize it is God, that needs to happen. Before it happens this talk is nonsense after it happens you don't need it. Reality is God. God is Real. God is Consciousness. God is phenomena. God is Infnity. I agree and respect you and also learn from you but there is a point where you realize, oh wait a minute, all I'm doing is exploring God, my own Infinity, this moment of God must come sooner or later. The moment of God must come, be open for that, be open to enter deeply in your next trip into a breakthrough of God. You don't need to construct God, it is always already here, it's just a matter of becoming Awake enough to see it. In my personal journey I'm seeing more and more a difference now between Awakening and God-Realization. There is a God-Mode access it. You won't regret the effort, you will be thankful you were wrong and God-Mode actually exists. There isn't anything else I can say to you, I feel like we are in a dead end here. All that can be talked we already have talked. It's a God-Realization, the God-Mode will enthrone you as the Sovereign of your Dream, a remembrance of your nature as God, finally you will feel at home in life, in your GoodHood, shinning forever as Reality-Self. Realizing God couldn't be more profound, I wish with all my love that you may awaken to God. I'm still starting in the full embracement, investigation and integration of what being God really entails. Leo has decades of advantage over me for example, this is an open game. Entering God Consciousness or God Mode feels like you thought you arrived to the end of Awakening just to realize this is only the beginning. In truth, you are God in denial of being God. You have to come to this realization: I am God, There is only God, God is all there is, God for Infinity. God & God & God. Oh my GOD! You have weird notions of God. I don't know what else to say that I haven't already said. God-Realization is you becoming conscious you are God and enjoying it. Peacefuly admiring The Beautiful Mystery

I've read reports like this. It seems that you'll have to learn and practice kundalini yoga. It's not gonna stop till it does what it wants to do, so better help in the process instead of resisting. Learn how to work with it and it will become your best friend. I know the side effects are severe, I have also talked with people going through the same situation like you, maybe talking with @Giulio Bevilacqua will make you feel more understood. Going to a good physiotherapist, chiropractic or osteopath can really help you with this. So search the nearest centre from where you live and get an appointment.

I've had kundalini awakenings before I knew what they were. I think there is a lot of dramatization with the whole thing. It's wild but you'll be okay in the end. Kundalini is the embodied consciousness of physicality, ground up consciousness, instead of top down consciousness, it's the whole body awakening like hitting an asleep cobra with a stick. If someone is worried of messing up the kundalini, buy a good rudraksha mala and wear it. That really helps a lot, from newbies to pros, Rudraksha helps everyone in this energetic process. I wear hundreds of Rudraksha seeds on me right now, it's one of my well kept secrets. Rudrakshas by themselves will handle and guide your kundalini better than other methodologies.

That is not God-Realization What you are doing is great, I'm saying you haven't recognised God in it yet. What you are talking about is actually God and this is not a minor distinction. That is the whole cake at it's essence, there is only God. God is all there is. I don't call it God because I prefer that word, God is a verb not a word, Reality is actually God, that's what it is, that's what you are, that's all there is, God for Infinity. Everything is Godly if you prefer that phrasing.

Yeah, this is the elephant in the room

That IS the lack of self love. Overworking is a symptom of lack of self love, taking drugs to numb yourself to keep working is a symptom of lack of self love. His behaviours are a prove of his lack of self love. I'm not contrasting his behaviours next to lack of self love, I'm saying that what sourced those behaviours is a lack of self love. That's how a lack of self love looks like That was not my point. I was addressing directly your question about how selflessness realates with your own body. You don't need to be your car to take care of it, that was the analogy. What I said is that God would manage it's life with exquisite balance. This is not an assumption, this is how actually God runs the whole of Reality, so it is your innate desire as a fragmented consciousness to participate in this cosmic balancing act, even your imbalances participate in the greater balance of the cosmos. As the imbalance of Sadhguru has grounded many people here, as they have seen the trap he fell into. I took a very careful approach from the beggining and took my time to arrive independentely to a deep understanding of the situation. Take the position you want, I'll also do the same. This is a lack of Self Love and if you understand what Self Love is and what implies, the Sadhguru dilemma is easily solved. You will also see that many problems in your personal life are directly solved by Self-Love Self-Love is very very deep. I think some readers might be misinterpreting my commentaries on the issue because they lack a direct mystical experience & understanding of: Self-Love

Is peace possible in the domain of want? Ever new desires will arise. Sense objects that only generate poison, never give real peace. Caught in the round of coming and going, can one be at peace? As long as there are two, there will be sorrow. Duality breeds conflict, pain. Sorrow arises from want. So long as you are not established in your true being you cannot possibly beat peace.

@Breakingthewall At this point you'll have to Awaken to what God is for yourself. You need a God-Relization

I agree with @Breakingthewall here Look the situation is hard and you'll have to think it through carefully in regards with social calibration, being very discreet and keeping it in private for a while. In the end you'll have to take the decisions you want despite the norms of society. This was super normal and healthy sixty years ago. It would be better to be with a woman your age and not a girl but whatever, sometimes love hits you like a train. Remember social calibration though and the responsability of taking someone's virginity. I would frame the relationship more on bonding together and maturing than on sexual fixation

This is not about being right, logical, explanations or perspectives. This is about the Truth

Those are manifestations, ramifications of his lack of self-love. Why did he behave the way he did it? Go to the source and see what it is for yourself Don't go into philosophy domain here. You have a body, take care of it. That's all. You know you are not your car, your self is not the car you drive, yet you feed it gas, clean it and bring it to the mechanic when it stops working properly. You don't keep pushing the gas pedal till it break downs and the mechanic has to repair it in the middle of the street. In the same way, your body is the vehicle of consciousness, the instrument of consciousness. Take care of it, stop making this more complicated than it actually is. Selflessness does not exclude loving your own body, nor it is selfish to take care of yourself and stablish healthy boundaries. This is how God would actually manage his own life, exquisite balance is the mark of the wise.

@Sufi25 So First of all I would like to say that your script was more a reflection on Religion, Sociology, Psychedelics, Mysticism, than on particularly Islam. This is not a reflection of Islam but a deep personal religion you shared with us. How you actually think religion should be done and you want Islam to become a tool for that, probably because that tradition resontes close to your heart. I think you would benefit from reading: A Religion of One's Own: A Guide to Creating a Personal Spirituality in a Secular World. I think you would also enjoy studying the field of Comparative Religion, I personally enjoy it a lot. If you wanna know my particular opinion on: The Islam of Tomorrow; What would you add/change? This is how it goes, practically speaking Islam needs to honour their mystical branch which is Sufism. Islam Saints like Ibn Arabi or Rumi offer a pretty deep contemplation on God, Unity and Love. For Islam going forward I see a gravitation towards those higher consciousness teachings. If you talk about islam I missed the link in the Abrahamic tradition, from Judaism through Christianism and then Islam. I think that gives context when talking about the future evolution of Islam.

@Schizophonia Have you even read the first paragraph? It's addressing directly your concern. Maybe you could read his reflections, you'll learn something.