Razard86

LOL good choice finding that is a doozy!!!!

When I was younger I used to get in deep logical debates and argue and provide proof etc. to prove my position or frame of thinking/perspective/opinion as superior. Maybe I'm surrounded by a lot of younger people because its like I'm talking to my younger self on this forums. So many people on this forum when they reply to you they write a book....a literal book. You really do not need to write a book as a reply. For your normal posts when you are sharing something write as much as you want. But you do not need to write a book to reply to someone. Do you know how much time someone has to spend trying to interpret what you are saying and the significance and interconnectedness of each point? The purpose of writing is to be understood. You don't want it to be an ordeal for the person you are communicating with to understand you. Of course YOU know the meaning of what you are typing its in your head, but you need to be short and simple and offer to go in depth if the person needs clarification. I have had this issue in the past where I used to believe I had to explain every last detail and learned over time people don't need that or most times even want that. I still do this when I talk but thankfully I have cleaned it up my writing. So let's recap, if you want to post a long post to share something go for it. But when you converse with people on the forums and engage in discussion keep your replies short and simple and offer to go in depth if they are open to it. Now this isn't me trying to control anyone you can do as you please, its just friendly advice. I've outgrown debates, I already burned through that karma I'll say a couple of responses then I'm bailing I'm not sticking around to write walls of texts and pontificate on the many perspectival meanings of nothingness. Once you realize everything is you, and everything is nothing....why spend hours in debate? Speak your perspective, give a couple responses and keep it moving I say but to each his own. We are all going to disagree with each other for various reasons, and trigger each other at times (which is a good thing actually as it is a chance to see where some hidden resistance is) so buckle up as this forum is not for the faint of heart. All I ask is consider the receiver of your communication when you choose to respond.... if they want you to write a book...they'll order one lol.

Wow man that is powerful!! I wish you safe passage back from your trip!!! Also....how are you typing this right now?

Enlightenment and embodiment are two separate things. I can fully know that this is a dream and in your scenario if you strapped me down and put a chainsaw too my leg experience horrific pain. But I got some fun facts to you about that since I have been in scenarios where I lost a ton of blood, so much it looked like a murder scene from an accident I got into as a passenger where I almost lost sight in my eye. The movies make things look worse than they really are. The truth is if someone put a chainsaw to your leg, your whole body would go into shock and you would probably pass out from blood loss. For you to REALLY torture the person you better inject them with UPPERS to keep them awake and if their heart stops beating you better use a defibrillator to keep them alive and also cauterize the wound otherwise they would die from blood loss. But the truth is I have been in excruciating points of pain and the irony is....if that pain last long enough....it stops hurting. For pain to REALLY HURT it has to die down and COME BACK. If you notice pain throbs....it alternates is level. Every now and then it hits a level and stays there.....but then it must come down. Otherwise if it stayed there long enough...it would become a baseline and you would get USED TO IT. This is one of the secrets people don't realize about pain. Pain is also influenced by your heart beat/circulation. No circulation in an area...no pain.

Create that music in yo head, in yo head, in yo head. Cmon create that music in yo head, in yo head IN YO HEAD!!! Create that music in yo head, jam to that nasty beat, slide to the rhythm that comes from underneath, bask in the nakedness in the sheets, and the smell of ecstasy that resides from yo heats. It’s a union a celebration every time you two meet, but we can become an individual cause its our beat, so dance forever more in the present, bask in the riches all around you there are no peasants, lets rock to the beat like riding on a rickety carriage, as we become one on this beat the ultimate marriage.

Why are you apologizing? Where is the harm? Loosen up man you are WAYYY TOO SERIOUS!!!!! Let loose!!!! Stop trying so hard to be holy!!! LOL!!! That is spiritual ego!!! Dance!!! Laugh!!! Let loose!!!! Its all a game!!! A dream!!! You are me and I am you so what conflict is there? https://biblehub.com/mark/3-25.htm A house divided against itself shall not stand. Me and you were merely playing a game. Its those who mistake the game for something serious that need apologies!!! You teach me and I teach you. There is no difference between you and me, so we good. Any conflict I have is with myself, that Holykael user on the forums has shown me that I need to deal with the whiny identity I have within. I took him too seriously and almost lost myself. Anyway we good man don't get too lost into logic, that you forget to loosen up and have fun!! Much love man!!!

Beautiful picture....the dance of life!! I challenge you to find a similar picture but one that is paradoxical in nature.

You'd be surprised how easily others can't understand your knowledge. You underestimate how intelligent you are. When you get a chance go on social media and look at the level of engagement of the average person. Most people on the planet don't even understand what a system is. They maybe aware of the word sure, but they don't really understand what it is. This message is both a compliment and a humble attempt to tell you your brilliance will often go over many heads. I've noticed many of you high intellectuals sometimes forget that others don't operate in your sphere of intelligence. So basically your smarts are a gift and a curse. So at one point I'm in awe of the intelligence of those on this forum but I shake my head sometimes because I know sometimes....you will lose your audience. Just something to think about. Its something I had learn through my friends, my friends have grounded me over the years to their credit and I'm still learning to be grounded ever more. Just a thought.

Enlightenment= No Self=All Self. A dog does not see a cat as itself. A dog is STUCK in its identity as a dog. Enlightenment is the understanding that you are not ONE identity but ALL identities. So no an animal cannot even become enlightened, a dog or any other animal we have found does not even know what awareness is. A dog is just God dreaming as a dog. It cannot AWAKEN from its dream as a dog until it drops the dream. So when the form of dog is dropped it becomes enlightened.

Here is the reason, that I disagree about him talking about transcending that. Telling someone to transcend psychedelics is akin to me telling you to transcend air, transcend food, etc. A person who uses psychedelics to for connecting with their higher self is no different than someone using meditation or breathing exercises etc. These are tools. Nothing more nothing less. What most people don't realize is that everything you do is either raising or lowering your level of awareness. What do you think prolonged responsible use of psychedelics do? Think about that. People say its not for everyone, lol. Let me tell you what is going to happen. More and more designer psychedelics will be created. It will become a Billion dollar industry. It will probably be used for more hedonistic pleasures but it will also help people burn through karma faster as well.

Sounds good to me. Yeah the biggest ego is Universal Ego or Universal Self but to reach that you need to recognize all egos as you. This is why many spiritual pursuers get lost. They create a separation of ego not realizing that everything is ego. Ego is creation itself, ego=self. When we say you are not the ego that is a tool, to discover that you are that which creates ego, and thus since you are the creator, every ego/creation is YOU. This can be pointed to by a ridiculous number of pointers. You laugh, you cry, you get tired, you have energy, that is all ego. You cannot experience all of that without ego. God is infinite potentiality, the ego is the expression of that potentiality. So don't fall into the trap of demonizing ego, you cannot have a life without ego. Its just your ego...is me, and my ego is you. You are me and I am you.

He's close lol. He'll get there if he interviews Leo I bet lol.

Its not nihilistic reality is meaningless if it weren't it couldn't be love. Meaningless means you are free to attach any meaning you want, if it had meaning that would be a restriction on infinity and infinity has no restrictions. Only the ego is afraid of no meaning because without meaning there is not story, no identity, and thus no ego. The ego needs meaning to exist. So life has no meaning, the only meaning it has is love. Love is meaning. But the no meaning and love means, whatever YOU love becomes your meaning. So for a bird scientists the meaning of life maybe for him the study of birds. For a boxer the meaning for life maybe defeating his opponent. Your meaning (what you are striving for everyday) will change as you change which is in the flow of life. Life couldn't be impermanent if it had meaning, it must constantly have an infinite amount of meanings which = no meaning. Its a paradox and its what life is.

Look at you, you really do not understand how much you reveal when you type do you? How much of a desire do you have to be right? To teach? Notice you have such a desire to PROVE yourself. If you didn't you wouldn't continue this back and forth. Notice how easy it is for me to get you to continue. Do you want to continue? Because we can if you want. This is a fun game after all.

You kind of overcomplicated something very simple. You could still fish, unless the population of the fish was very small you alone are not going to kill out all the fish. Also you cannot directly control how much others do without force, but you could influence them through dialogue. You would be more convincing if you didn't fish at all as some will believe you are just saying to catch more but that is an issue you will have to work through. In the end they will either listen to you, or do their own thing anyway. Your quote says it all "We all must be, and can only be, a light unto ourselves." Everything else you said overly complicates something very simple. Stick to the quote you have, no systems theory can work unless you can get people to buy in. Ever notice that scientists rarely get elected? They aren't good at the art of persuasion. Theories and systems don't matter if you cannot get buy in. How do you get buy in? Focus on simplifying whatever concepts you are sharing otherwise you are just using words to express how intelligent and wordy you are.

^ It is beyond understanding. It literally feels like surgery is being done. One trip off mushrooms made the voice I hear when I think...quieter and that was off of one trip. I wonder what further trips would do. I'm not at position where I can do more trips right now but I would recommend anyone who wants faster results to follow what Leo says...ignore the people telling you otherwise. I do believe psychedelics can work for anyone as long as the intention is legitimate but as understand... the faster the results, the more profound and terrifying it will be. Nothing is more terrifying than God, nothing is more beautiful and profound as well.

You are too enlightened to be demoted. LOL.

I fixed that for you. ^ You are just complaining about yourself. Read this quote by Leo on his Insights page...it makes the case without a doubt its YOU. So stop saying God and say Holykael.

Reality is not logical at all, its impermanent. Since reality is impermanent all logic will never be consistent because it constantly changes. For something to be consistent it would have to stay the same. The only thing that is consistent is change. Good luck trying to keep up with the change or predict it. There are an infinite number of changes that are happening this very moment in an infinite number of ways in an infinite number of forms in reality. Too many to count. We walk around with very finite maps and think we got reality figured out when the truth is...we don't know jack at all. That is the point of spirituality to give up your belief that you have in knowledge and rest in being. I merely talk about things I experienced but my finite intelligence knows nothing, only the little it can gleam. In comparison to Universal Intelligence that intelligence is infinitesimal.

Thanks for illuminating to me your struggles I wish you all the best in overcoming your shadows. I'm rooting for you.

1. Of course everyone has an agenda, people can also choose to ignore me. Many people can point things out, it doesn't mean people will listen. I can tell someone that majority of physical illnesses are self inflicted, bad physical diet, bad mental diet. Doesn't mean they will listen, but some will. 2. The entire point of communication is to be understood. Sure another motivation is attention but that attention is still to be understood. So my post is to point out how to be better understood. Most people don't even read books, so if you write a book as a reply...well don't get mad if people don't take the time to understand you. 3. This is an issue I used to do and I have worked on it over the years. You won't believe how long my posts used to be, my current posts are miniscule in comparison. Now when it comes to talking...I still have some more work to do in learning to articulate something in fewer words.

Notice this: The OP's complaints are a cry for love. All your responses are your attempt to answer the call and provide love. OP then refuses your attempts and then claims a lack of love. Ironic much? LOL. Its why I always say, suffering is a choice.

He does it because he loves it. He gets attention when he whines that is why he does it. This means he is not getting the attention he desires in his personal life and so he dumps his complaints here to get the positive attention he desires. He denies his own ability to give himself that attention and relies on "others" to give it to him. Have you all not realized he has brought you into this circle to feed him? He knows you all care about him and uses that to post over and over how depressed he is and you all come to the rescue. Even I am getting caught in this nonsense because I care too. He is so selfish he doesn't realize that his problems influence others. If God isn't love then why is he whining and complaining? If Love didn't exist nobody would respond to him. They would ignore him. He knows what he is saying is B.S. he just enjoys playing this character and that is why he does it. We all enjoy trying to help him, because we don't like to see others suffer. So that is the egoic game being played right now. The victim and those who want to help/save the victim. I wonder how long this is going to keep going until the game stops being fun?

You are very brave to admit a flaw publicly it shows you have a strong sense of accountability. No roast I'm sorry it happened to you but I praise you for your accountability and your transparency. I have a bias in favor of people being accountable and transparent so when I see posts like this it makes me smile to know people like you exist. Thanks for sharing man, I also got scammed before for $1,000. I tried to help a stranger who was struggling to get money and it involved me transferring him some money. He transferred the money back to me but had lied to me that the account was his. It was actually his girlfriend's account. So she blocked the transfer and the money got sent back. My money however wasn't sent back since I approved the transaction. Not wanting to get the police involved I just ate it. I was younger and naive. I did leave him a scathing voice mail though lol. Basically told him he is the reason the world is evil LOL. Basically blamed all of the atrocities of the world on him. He told me he was a Christian and talked a whole bunch about Jesus. LOL!!! But when things went bad he went MIA.

I've had a lot of people betray me in my life, I've learned to forgive them but I admit dealing with them my policy has been keep them at a distance because every time they come around they take from me. But what Sadhguru says in this video goes in alignment with Universal Will and your limited human will. If you look at anything that happens from Universal Will everything happens as it should. If you look at it from human will perspective things are good/bad according to your individual preferences. Interesting video to contemplate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzA6ZXpMH64&ab_channel=Sadhguru Also its interesting he said nobody ever told you God was intelligent.....