Toby

Osho-quote on "Aloneness" and "Loneliness" from @Prabhaker incoming.

Different teachers have different maps. Bentinho and Adya both like Ramana and Nisargadatta though. Speaking in Nisargadatta's terms: the absolute is in which the "I am" arises and vanishes. The "I am" can show up as a whitness but the most advanced "version" of the "I am" is "unity consciousness" or "universal consciousness" - if that is what you are talking about. That is still within the domain of "I am" and not the absolute. This here is Bentinho's map, it is very much influenced by Ramana and Nisargadatta as one might notice:

Well, what about applying Papaji's advise here? Who had the experience?

“When I used to do retreats at Sonoma Zen Center, where it was very quiet, we’d be up at 4:30 a.m. to start sitting. It was beautiful and peaceful that time of the morning. The sun was just starting to light up the air before it would come up on the horizon, and there was the amazing experience of just feeling the whole world waking up, your whole self waking. It felt wonderful. About 6:30 every morning, across the street from the Zen temple, the neighbors woke up. The neighbors had a different idea of how to get ready for the day. So at 6:30 every morning they played Led Zeppelin in full volume. This is when dharmic relationship can be learned. It is easy to stay conscious to the birds, to the pleasantness, to the beautiful manifestation of the Divine, to your own true self -- until Jimmy Page starts striking the first power chords. And there it is. There is the invitation. ‘What is that? And what's my relationship with that?’ What I found was that it was just another sound, and that was perfectly okay. And it was beautiful because it widened my sense of the spiritual. It just was what is. There is God pretending to be a rock star. God wasn’t just all the pleasant, good little moments, quiet and serene. This takes the idea of spirituality and rips it right down the center. It says, ‘Okay, you want to see God? Here is God -- all of God. Not just the part you want to see, but all of it.’” - Adyashanti (https://www.facebook.com/adyashanti.org/posts/374048206293688)

I can only say from my perspective that when I revisit some of the music I listened to as a young adult because I had some sense of that it expressed what I felt or was empowering... I cannot really listen to it for 5 minutes now. Some elements I still like though.

It's actually true: you cannot control life and you are not in control of life.

Where can I find it?

The only things that sound good are EFT, mindfulness, EMDR and 12 step programm.

There are some teachers that used that argument to abuse students sexually. "Hey, this will be really beneficial for your spiritual development"..

The now is a concept too.

For me it's not an assumption. I know that it's true. I chose the word "assuming" to make my statement more true to even someone who is sceptical about it. So, it's just an assumption.

Assuming that all is One, it is not correct. It is the best service there is. It's an energy thing. It affects everything.

Most who are awake don't teach. And there are - at least the teachers that I know - hundreds of "disciples" that are awake.

Isn't the Mooji guy somewhere in Portugal? Maybe you could check him out. His master's teaching of being still is the most direct teaching to the silent mind.

He wants to stress the point that his homies should step up their blender game.

I have to say I was expecting a better blender and more fresh ingredients. But other than that, blending is cool. I might check out the fresh spinach.

Attached to non-attachment is not the same as non-attachment. The Buddha said something of the middle way, don't get too extreme in this or that way. Take it easy.

Sounds very clear to me and sounds if some things just play themselves out without needing to do a great deal about it.

What kind of Antidepressant are you taking? Some of your symptoms might be side effects.

The really "sad" thing is, it is possible to have sex, a relationship, friends and being social without being able to relate and connect to people or life. This teacher in the video says something like 1/3 to 1/2 of all people are like this (western society), and in spiritual circles it is even higher. People go on the path because they long for that connection. They don't find it in a physical-emotional way, so they try to find it in a spiritual way.

We had a similar thought experiment already. Now imagine these scenarios where you are not going to die soon but have some of these situations: - you have killed someone and now you are in prison for the rest of your life - you had an accident and now you are almost completely paralysed - you have an illness or something like that which causes your body to weaken and limit your senses and abilities (movement, cognitive functions, strength...) to a great deal So, given these scenarios, how would you react if this was your life situation? What would you do? How would you find meaning and fulfillment?