A Fellow Lighter

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  1. 14 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

    @A Fellow LighterOne of the best posts I've seen on here. Only thing is I would change the word Consciousness with The Absolute. In the end, it doesn't really matter as it's only words. A few stuff i didn't resonate with, as in being aware of.....unless you're not speaking about the individual but the Absolute.

    This is so fucking awesome. Thanks for this great read.

     

    10 hours ago, abrakamowse said:

    Enjoying this post a lot. Thanks @A Fellow Lighter

    Thank you guys for letting me know. Thank you so much.

    14 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

    The reason why we search for meaning and purpose. There is literally none for existence. If there were, there would be no reason for the mind to look for one. 

    Yes. Consciousness has taken a creative role with respect to meaning due to the fact that there is none inherently, there is no objective meaning so to speak. And the infinity, or the Absolute as you put it, knows that there is none. But because of love, because of caring so much, or concerning itself with itself, it does wonder: What does it mean to be infinity? Or what does it mean to be absolute?

    Really, this is the same question we ask when we ask: What is the meaning of life? Of course, deep down, we're not question existence at all. What we are questioning is our awareness of it, the consciousness, the absolute self, so to speak.


  2. @Keryo Koffa With regards to your two positions, reality being dynamic or being coherent, the mind is capable of constructing the appearance of both. However, the video game analogy describes reality better, with the selective rendering and personalised reality function. However, it's in the mind's capacity to also bring about the illusion of a coherent reality.

    But there are no bubbles, and there is no reality other than the one you know, even if your reality suggests that there is. It's all part of the game, so to speak.


  3. 2 hours ago, Keryo Koffa said:

    It's the difference between reality only existing as it is continuously experienced versus tuning into a greater substrate and limiting ones experience forming a bubble of awareness on a relative level that dissolves in the absolute?

    Alright. There are no actual layers to reality (mind). For instance, if you picture yourself eating an apple, there is no higher you picturing you picturing eating an apple. All levels are one level. So, to speak of "substrates" as if there are realities greater than the one you are experiencing is misleading. There is one reality, and it is great because it does not limit itself to any particular experience. Experience is impermanent. 


  4. 1 hour ago, Keryo Koffa said:

    To expand upon it. How do you see reality constructed? Is it a dynamic illusory assembly of surroundings in periphery, similar to how video games recalculate and render on the go? Or does it have a coherent existence that the current awareness processes and tunes in and out of that exists independently with other awareness bubbles equal in substance to the current that are simply unobserved from the current vantage point but rendered and experienced simultaneously outside of the current experience by other portions of a greater self/god that can be united on a deeper more inclusive layer of consciousness and have detail and experience similar to your own?

    The way in which reality is created is non-mechanical. By this I mean that there is no process to it, none so ever. What there is is truth. But I'll explain.

    Imagine that there is a singular and yet universal current (a current like that of streaming water). However this current is so singular that even its flow is completely in unison, thus rendering it formless due to the lack of any finite features which would be present if this current had some sort of conflicting opposing current. But there isn't, because this current is universal.

    Alright, now, what I'm talking about here isn't really imaginary, in fact, it's not imaginary at all because I'm talking about consciousness in its purest state. It is the eternal motion of knowing that there is that which knows and it knows itself. A closed loop as you can assess for yourself. 

    Ok, with that being said, what is reality and where does it come from? Reality is an activity performed by consciousness purely out of love. This activity is mind. Think about the verbal form of the word, contemplate it and attemt to broaden its meaning. Reality is the mind of this eternal motion or current called consciousness. With this capability, you can imagine both the possibility of a mindful (active) movement or a mind-less (passive/rest) movement. However, it is still consciousness no matter the movement. It is still one eternal motion. 

    There is still no mechanics to it, nor is there a rhyme or a reason behind this. It is irrational. It is out of love. Love is what drives, so to speak, the motion. 

     


  5. 1 hour ago, Clarence said:

    The sentence "struggling with consciousness" really doesn't make sense to me.

    Basically, you're struggling with existence. But to say "existence" does not address the heart of the matter which is that there, here, is consciousness. It is not going anywere, and all experiences are due to it, including your mom getting shot or yourself. Someone else you love might get shot. You might get shot again, and again, and again, and again. All of this is possible because all of this is still consciousness. But either you don't know what consciousness is and you keep asking why this stuff happens, or you do know what consciousness is but are still resisting the fact that you are it, you are that experience of getting shot and possibly dying, you are that experience of death as well as birth. But instead of being aware of this, you have rather fabricated an identity against consciousness and have called it your life instead of just life. Now everything that happens will be about you instead of being just about life. And when life moves on, you remain behind. You remain at that traumatic moment which has long passed. Rather than experiencing the pain and allowing to flow through, you are blocking it with your fear of possibly experiencing it again which might or might not be the case. This is why people suffer.

    1 hour ago, Clarence said:

    You might completely accept that it happened to you and understand it is all consciousness, but still remain traumatized in that sense.

    No, you can't. If this happens then you have not understood consciousness, let alone be aware of it. 

    1 hour ago, Clarence said:

    You might react (have a physical reaction of stress) everytime you hear a firearm for the rest of your life even if you are not in danger.

    Your reaction is not an involunteery spasm as you make it sound, it comes from your own concerns about life. It is rooted in your own unwillingness to accept and befriend death as part of life as part of consciousness. It is resistance at its best.


  6. 2 hours ago, Keryo Koffa said:

    Solipsism is the idea that the current experience as it is, is the only one in existence, and while I agree that on the highest layer everything is one, I also think that our awareness as we experience it occurs simultaneously in others irregardless of us witnessing it, on a higher layer in infinite self-contained POVs that can merge with others and expand in the process.

    I'll only touch on this because it is the only part here related to a question you asked. 👇

    17 hours ago, Keryo Koffa said:

    I wonder, what is your view on the nature of the self, others, the world and solipsism?

    Everything else in your text appears to be your own contemplation, which I won't interfere without the invitation of a question.

    Alright, since you have defined solipsism for me as the idea that the current experience as it is, is the only one in existence, then I'll have to disagree with solipsism. Reason being: All experience is impermanent. This is due to the fact that consciousness is a motion – the only motion outside the physical illusion. 

    So, how can my experience of having a cheese burger for breakfast be the only experience in existence when I'll have a different meal for breakfast anytime soon? This idea is not accurate. The word existence encompasses a lot for just the current experience. Experience is an impermanent thing. It can be one thing, then in a blink of an eye, it is another thing entirely. 

    However, within the impermanence of experience, is the permanence of consciousness. This consciousness (or eternal motion) is the only one in existence.


  7. @Clarence

    When something traumatic is taking place then exactly in that moment, all you know is the pain that is unfolding for you. Yes, this too is consciousness, a very focussed or distilled form of consciousness, but conscioisness nonetheless.

    Now, the moment has long passed, but somehow, you are still living in that moment which has passed, and the present moment alludes you because you have not let go of that painful experience. You keep wondering "Why me?" or "Why does this happen?", and now you live in anxiety that it might happen again. This, precisely this, is suffering. And there is clearly no deep awareness because you keeping asking "why". "Why" marks the absence of awareness, the lack of understanding.

    The moment you are living in pain, even though the painful moment has passed, then you are struggling with consciousness. You are not aware that it is consciousness, hence you ask "why". The worst case scenario is that you are not aware of consciousness at all, never have been.

    36 minutes ago, Clarence said:

    The suffering that it causes is more than likely to remain despite being aware that it is consciousness.

    Except trauma doesn't cause suffering. Suffering is caused by resisting the fact that it happened. The question of "Why me?" or anything along those lines is a form of resistance. We tend to resist what we don't understand. But then how can we understand it without the needed awareness?


  8. 17 minutes ago, Clarence said:

    Everything is consciousness.

    What you are saying doesn't really answer anything.

    Consciousness without awareness is the problem. That's what I'm saying above, in my post.

    Of course everything is consciousness, but without the awareness of how every single thing, or every experience, is in fact consciousness then one is bound to struggle.

    For instance, trauma is also consciousness. But if you're not aware of how trauma is still consciousness then you'll call it suffering. 

     


  9. 18 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

    Because there was Still an I there. 

    Realizations of terror = Ego Still there.

    No identity at all: You.

     

    Truth is Only what you Are.

     

    Everything else identity, Thoughts, Ego.

     

    What you really are is impossible It suffers any realization because It is not an I.

    Thats funny.

    Dont you see the reaction and the creation of so called loneliness or terror is itself ego?

     

    I think there was plenty room for ego right there. ;)

    There is no room in the sense that you can not operate from ego-mind in that level of awareness. Hence the sense of aloneness and the terror which followed. 

    However, if your concern is that I reached this level of awareness with my ego in tact, then I understand your point. And, yes, it is possible to reach that level of awareness while operating at ego-mind, because ego-mind is still mind. However, you won't like it, and you'll back out just as I did. That level of awareness is not for the i. 


  10. I don't know whether or not anyone is actually ready to hear this, let alone understand this, but it's the truth. Unless you have a serious mental health problem, and by serious I mean causing you to impulsively self-harm or harm others, then you're either mainly struggling with meeting your basic needs or you're struggling with consciousness. But then survival is also for the purpose of consciousness. So really it all does boil down to the struggle of consciousness.

    Consciousness without awareness is the problem. Experience without understanding is the problem. Otherwise you should be utterly at bliss if you have your nutrition and shelter secured. But this is not the case with most people. They neither have serious mental health problems nor are they struggling with securing their basic needs. They are simply struggling with consciousness. 

    There was a time when I for one was struggling with consciousness. It's because I hadn't yet grasped the meaning of this so called life. I didn't understand the purpose of pain or pleasure, of compassion or hatred, of violence or harmony. I didn't understand the point of these experiences. And this is precisely the point: You can't let it go until you understand it. It is much easier to move past a trauma once you've understood it. So, of course, man's struggle is with consciousness.

    Consciousness is no small matter. Overlooking this simple fact will cost you your happiness.


  11. 14 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

    That's quite horrible. This is the last door. You have to face it again and again. I cried of loneliness and terror after those openings many times. You have to go through it and open your heart, then the pure light of existence is showed to itself. Nothing that you could think.

    It is in fact the last door because in that state of awareness, nothing is hidden from you. The truth is so blunt and undeniable.

    However, this time I'm making sure that I am prepared for that level of awareness. I am having and integrating all the awakenings I've had and might have. There won't be an "again" once I get to total awakening again. Because I will be prepared to let go of the illusion of i.


  12. 8 hours ago, Keryo Koffa said:

    If I interpret correctly, the discovery was the deconstruction of the belief in an objective observer

    The blow of the knife was much more penetrating than that. It was the deconstruction of the observer entirely, forget the objective or subjective context.

    8 hours ago, Keryo Koffa said:

    the illusion of identification with a continuously arising and changing phenomenon akin to everything else, a form within the infinite substrate of formlessness.

    Precisely 💯

    8 hours ago, Keryo Koffa said:

    I wonder, what is your view on the nature of the self, others, the world and solipsism?

    I can tell you my view on the nature of "the self" and "others", however I am still not sure what it is exactly that solipsism posits or even if there is one school of solipsism. Perhaps you can reiterate it for me?

    8 hours ago, Keryo Koffa said:

    Is the substrate of consciousness forming bubbles of individual awareness? If so, how are they related?

    No, there are no bubbles formed. Nor are they necessary for the illusion of POVs because there is no individual awareness. There is always only one mind, that is, only one reality. 

    The appearance of individual awareness is not even an appearance at all, but an assumption. The observer is imagined by the consciousness that is us (or everything). The assumption is made due to the form which reality (the mind) has taken. It has taken a perceiver-perception form for no purpose in particular but again for the general purpose of consciousness. 

    The observer or perceiver-perception form is not in any way necessary or a somewhat default form. The mind is in fact capable of taking a form that doesn't give rise to the illusion of a POV at all. And chances are, you've probably experienced this in a psychedelic trip or at least in a dream where there was an experience but no clear indication of an experiencer.

    The POV is an illusion. In fact, it is not even an intended illusion. It is only a case of imagination or assumption made by the consciousness that is us (or everything). This illusion of a POV can be let go of, can be released, and reality would still continue as it is, the "dream" would still continue, up until it reaches it's natural conclusion.

    8 hours ago, Keryo Koffa said:

    Did you get insights about the nature and structure of reality and that which we perceive as forces of nature?

    Yes, I have.


  13. 19 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

    awakening really is terrifying. Everyone wants to awake to be at home, but when you see your house your blood will freeze in your veins. Your house is total infinity, absolute emptiness. There is absolutely nothing, it is a bottomless abyss.

    but there is something, there is your heart there, and from it love springs. It's hidden, but it's obvious. 

    From nothing, from absolute infinite emptiness, an illusion is created, it seems like a silly trick to have fun, a stupidity to escape from the nihilism of absolute emptiness without any meaning, but if you penetrate into it, you will see that it is made of a sacred substance called love.  form the depth of nothingness love springs, all form is love, and form is, because love is. It is not an illusion, it is the open heart of the infinite, which is a source of infinite love. It is the miracle of existence, it is the total light that opens and blinds you, and looks you directly in the face and then you merge with it because you are that. That is the pure light of the existence.

    Then, in a moment , you are not merged anymore, then you start thinking, and you are out. That's life. But the light is always there, now you know the secret of existence, it's absolutely simple. 

    I once had that awakening in which I was totally aware of my singular existence as consciousness. At first I found it calming, well I was calm. I also started feeling overwhelmingly powerful. Then, as the realisation of my absolute aloneness set in, terror struck. I wasn't prepared for that truth. I can accept it conceptually but to be totally aware of it as I was in that state, that's a whole new ballgame.

    Ever since, I've been gradually and steadily working towards that realisation again. I'm still not prepared for it, to be honest. There really is no room for ego up there, just pure selfless expression. 


  14. 1 minute ago, Sugarcoat said:

    You are somewhat. I just can’t seem to awaken to what you’re speaking of

    It's a process. You need to start observing reality while paying much attention to the detail of your experience. I'm not just taljing about your day-to-day experiences, but also your night-to-night expetiences as well. Your dreams also part of reality. 

    Upon observation is contemplation. You must ask what it is that you are observing, you must do so without jumping to conclusions. Then, finally, if the answers seem to allude you, meditate. Meditation is not contemplation. Meditation, here, is rest fron thought. Contemplation is thought.

    The key to having any genuine awakening is to be true to yourself. So long as you are honest with yourself, there will be real progress in your journey.


  15. 14 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

    Ok I understand. So the self is just this illusiory appearance that mind (reality ) imagines in the same way it images everything else

    Not exactly. The mind doesn't do anything, it's not a thing or a being which is able to "do" anything. The mind (reality) is an activity, not an actor (do-er). 

    Regarding the illusion of the self. Firstly, this is a bit confusing if you haven't had that direct awakening that reality is mind, so you'll have to bear with me and help me make sure that I am making you understand. 

    Alright. The mind, or reality itself, is not an illusion. The word illusion describes a false appearance. Everything is really here, this is not a false appearance. The only illusion is you, the I, this is the illusion which is created by consciousness' imagination. [This is very subtle so pay close attention to the detail as much as you can.]


  16. 1 hour ago, Someone here said:

    The screen can be turned off during deep sleep ..where is no images but the screen still exists ..it's just not displaying any form.

    You get it ?

    Though I may not agree with the precise wording ("turned off", "displaying"), I do get it. Consciousness, or the screen (as you put it), still exists without form. 

    But, now, do you get that even this formlessness is a motion? And that there are not two motions but one motion which moves into colourful experience or unto deep sleep but without one being permanent or more (or less) impermanent than the other? This is the main position of my thread. That consciousness is motion – one motion that is.