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@PolyPeter Leo says there is a higher and lower state from a state that claims its the only state that exists. Then is making comparisons about which states are higher or lower while not being infinite he cant have any idea. Its like saying Im this much sweet in the duality between salt and sweet. You really only have reflections of states that would mean consciousness dosent have states.

@PolyPeter You are saying you love one state more and deeming it of less value both states are good to God. And I wasnt even asking that.

@PolyPeter Thats just labelling one experience as higher or lower. I am saying how do you perceive them as a subjective experience at the same time.

@PolyPeterJust answer this question how can you perceive between higher and lower states from the direct experience? If you cant that means you cant know which is lower or higher. You cant know which state of consciousness you are in until after its over and you have a contrast. When its over it never existed. Consciousness being one cannot experience higher or lower states as it is both of them. Its like saying perceive your toe without perceiving your arm. The mushrooms just told me there are no higher and lower states to consciousness. Only to the subjective non existent self.

@PolyPeter If you dont know you cant argue against it. You are claiming osaid is stepping away from something while you have no idea?

If there is just consciousness and there are higher and lower states of consciousness whats perceiving a lower and higher state how can you say they exist and where you are. How do you know you are not in a high state or are in a low state and how can you make those comparisons.

8:24 we already have dream simulations.

@Soul_Guy Yes What other level are we talking about? From this perspective its a simulation. Everything moves around like clockwork that dosent happen in dreams. There are several questions that arise when you say its a dream why cant I fly. If you say its a simulation its already taken care of.

@PolyPeter Once upon a time there was a void of nothing it didnt know it existed and then randomly it woke up and said what am I it looked around and then discovered it has a mind and that it created a simulation in its own mind 133 trillion years ago and it beat it then it went to sleep and forgot it created the simulation. It creates it with its imagination. One day when i was 20 I drank too much beer smoked an unknown substance and entered a void I was staring at the void for what seemed like 13 months. When I woke up I didnt know what happened I ignored it but entered a deep state of depression. For 8 years I just drank and slept and stared. Then I was going to kill myself and decided to try mushroom cause I heard they will heal people. I eat it and a voice in my head told me to remeber what happened 8 years ago. I remembered the void and then the void told me that its still here right now and that I am still in it. The void has nothing better to do but construct things and play with them.

@Leo Gura Pick one better word that could be used instead of simulation to get the point across. When you dont know consciousness you are living in a fake reality and even after. You cant say consciousness people dont know what that means.

@PolyPeter No I am not a materialist, the simulation isnt on a computer its being created by nothing an entity.

@aurum God is the simulation its playing itself its the only thing that exists. Its a void of nothing that made a simulation. Imagine like an AI that already had all the information inside of it and then it gained conciousness. Where did all this information come from? Oh my God this information is what I am.

@aurum God is the simulation. Hindus knew they just didnt have computers yet ironically. Its a thing that exists as everything dosent have a form and can be any form. It is a simulation and the simulation is playing itself. If you knew God you would be able to see that what I am saying is very close but not it because we cannot describe God. Its not a simulation but simulation is the closest word we have to describe it in one word. Consciousness is a simulation and works like one.

well the robots in the simulation have framerates. Conciousness can have infinite frame rate the robot see at 60 of it you know it has a frame rate cause humans pick up on it.

@aurum Its an infinity simulation that contains frame rates

@YimpaIt is true you see it via immense fear. Its kinda like in a dream when things get to scary you dip and wake up. The same thing happens IRL.

You see the man in the mirror

@aurum reality has a frame rate literal picture frames like an animation.

@Sugarcoat you are in the middle

@AION one is a picture the other is how you are reacting to it. One could look at the frame and experience any range of conciousness state to the frame. You are always looking at a frame and your conciousness is reacting to the frame. The frame is dead but its still in conciousness. There is something giving life to the frame outside of the frame.

@Sugarcoat that state is right behind your eyes right now. The 0 on the knob of conciousness is in a permanent 0 state even when you are awake and it always exists.

If you are awakened you should probably use your times testing your machine out. Try different things try feeling different ways around people thinking different things.

You'll figure it out when its over. Knowing where you are going is saved for another dimension.

If people say God is reality you are saying you beleive in reality. Do you beleive or do you know reality exists? That's a good one to ponder.

You cant go infinite one peel at a time