BlueOak

What you are missing Tskui is unless a large amount of people living in Ukraine no longer live there, or the Russia government itself adapts to them, this damage will happen anyway. Ukraine has 44 million people, Russia has 145 Million. The weight of that population being governed will inevitably lead to adaptation or instability in the government that tries to control it. Governments have to reflect what the population expect and accept.

Thank you. Next up please. Ukraines perspective and finally the perspectives of Eastern Europe, China, India etc. A really indepth look at it if possible. I've benefited greatly from watching the Russian perspective, because I didn't have it, but i've felt that's been what's highlighed in the forum. I would like to see other perspectives on this.

Maybe more of a clear message somewhere on the forum and website that the place for people with thoughts of suicide should be one of these help numbers or organisations, then list the ones/one you think is most helpful in the immediate moment. I got that idea when I revisted teals website again the other day, its at the bottom of her page, she's obviously been through it and found that answer. It helps direct the people in the most danger or pain to a solid physical support system that's immediately there for them.

Obviously the first bit. When you break through the manners people shield themselves with to justify whatever they are doing to others or themselves, people can perceive themselves as aholes because they were cloaking themselves in that identity. Depends if that identity is built on anything more solid than 'manners' or learned behavior I guess As for the rest. I think its even simpler than you say Leo. If ten thousand come through your forum seeking help, often when they are in a bad place, a few aren't going to make it. Sad as that is, and having been there myself more than once. Just the way it is. I think because your audience is a bit broader than say Seven's, its harder to talk life and death. Same with Teal's audience, she got a huge backlash. Religions like to keep that their domain and they only get away with that because it was drilled into people's entire identity since birth and reinforced through popular mythos or stories. If I can give an opposite perspective. People who want to learn benefit from you. So do people who want a great big beam shined on their head when they need to realise something. Rather than dodge it, as we all tend to do when threatened. If we dodge, dodge, or put our head in the sand, then eventually it gets painful to hear something, even if that's everyone's first reaction. Also I suppose those who can deal with the pain of that, or the fear of losing their identity. Anyway just my musing. Teal went through this for what its worth, you can probably reach out for advice, check in spiritually, or study what happened there over youtube. I'm sure its all in the collective mind now to tap into if you have that ability within you. Also thanks, for going through this. For what its worth. Means a lot.

I've learned people get the term by not acknowledging reality and demonizing others. I've also learned people give the term by not acknowleding reality and demonizing others. The best breakdown I saw on psychopaths, sociopaths and narcissists was: Its estimated in 1 in 200 people are actual psychopaths, more become sociopaths but that is a learned behavior.

Also it is the first sign of a someone making a move for the throne I guess. Again to repeat whoever takes his place won't be any better than what the population collectively accept or expect. So its not a happy moment, but I do think it is underestimated how likely it is for someone to replace him, not right now but after this. As we've been told and i've been educated through this crisis, Russia is a brutal place and it won't tolerate weakness (lot of red there). Putin is old and there have been blunders here. A route for change is suppressed in the population but its less supressed in those with money which hold power there.

Greetings all. How do I have a healthy stage blue reflected to me and in me without identifying with a country or geographical area. When I was younger I used to have no identity related to country, the opposite in fact. Then I had no ego or identity for a brief time. Since I have gone back down the conscious ladder to come back up again, I've realised and increased my identity related to my country and continent, giving me a healthy respect for law, order etc. This however has meant I now identify with my Local Community, also Country and Europe. I don't know how not to, without losing the structure by which I enjoy law, order, and collective security or safety that I now value. I believe these values originate from the countries, governments and communities that I am now feeling part of. If leo has a video on this, please drop the link or let me know which to look at. All the best! *I know it all comes from me. Having the illusion of having 50,000 me's all in unison and 50 million for the country gives a great deal of support for that identity and value structure.

Absolutely perfect. Thank you.

Also if you believe the Belarus intelligence briefing farce, they are looking at Moldova.

This is the most factual take on the tactical picture I have seen. Dispelling some myths from both sides.

That would make more sense because the Russia state narrative is it wants to remove nazi's The azov battalion is estimated to be 900 strong, even if they were all Nazis and some not just trying to look 'cool' or be stupid teenagers. That's fighting 400,000, and bombing 44 Million to kill 900 men. The point is I don't know how that narrative can hold up, but if they managed to demonize the west as whole to be Nazi's that makes more sense.

First it takes a perspective shift. Second understand I cannot recount your consciousness to you, how you think, act, reason and what you see are entirely unique to you. You might not describe things as I do, you might not reason as I do, and you certainly won't relate X to Y as I do. The perspective shift is: Everyone is a teacher. You are reflecting aspects of yourself back to yourself with every interaction, everyday of your life. Sometimes these aspects are lies because you are lying to yourself. Sometimes they are unconscious painful trauma's you've yet to see in your behavior. Maybe its something to work on or you see opportunity inside yourself. Othertimes its boundary issues and you've got to address them in yourself. Other times its because you are hiding part of your personality away and need to bring it out to address the post. Other times its something you need to do more often, or see done more often. Even when you are going in to help someone else. Its incredibly difficult when this comes to painful events but that attracts your focus more. Perhaps you are fed up with being walked all over, or perhaps you are walking all over others and it bites you. Perhaps your bias or the immediate impact of the situation is stopping you thinking clearly. As an example. Perhaps someone steals something from you and you realise you've got issues in your past related to ownership, or you are hiding from people who take from you and need to stand up to them. It gets very difficult to make this case in regards to traumatic events, because the reaction becomes much more painful, so i'm only going to go that far with examples. How you relate X to Y externally and internally, how you see that in others is what benefits from interactions like this. * Infinity relating to infinity, creates infinite examples.

This is going to be hard to see given the context and the title obviously with the focus isn't helpful, but at the very end. The beginnings of an awkward, angry peace? An Agreement. So life can go on in a war. Sometimes perhaps we forget that peace also starts with people, not just politicians.

I still hold the perspective that when things are painful, less conscious, exposing trauma, ego identity, illusion, unacceptance, whatever. This is incredibly helpful to see. I think limiting it is a mistake. *I'll expand a bit. It will discourage people from posting their perspective or truth. Which some of you want, but why? Why would you want to limit development of what is essentially yourself?

@tsuki I am concious I am posting a lot here but I wanted to make a personal thanks to you Tsuki for persisting here and everyone else's perspective here. By all your actions you've helped heal a wound, ignorance and trauma that has existed for 40 years. Obviously expressed in many different ways not just politics. Accelerating my growth a lot just by these conversations. So deeply thank you and thank you all for being here. All the best.

Depends on the country. In the UK for example Russian ships can no longer dock, so no oil is being imported over the ocean. Every country is different. Let's take Germany, which is the biggest market for Russian Gas in Europe I believe. Initially they have only limited certain banks, and are beginning to source gas from elsewhere. Canada voted to start to export more and the US did too, the climate policies in those countries have taken a backseat to the energy lobby. American Oil and Gas companies are doing a large amount of PR, and loving this, as people are for once on their side rather than renewables. Germany have spoken and started the long process of coming off Russian Gas and oil, like I say there is political and strategic will there and longer term this will be the biggest loss for Russia if that persists. It would be untrue to say all Europe just cut Russia off yesterday, it will be a long slow process, if only so the public in Europe doesn't drop its support for that process by the costs going up too high. The longer the Russian war in Ukraine persists, the longer that political will is reinforced. Which is one reason Russia wanted a quick war.

@John Paul Can be easy and I appreciate the prespective being reflected to me that I need to work on it. It depends on many factors. Trauma, proximity to what's being said, ego identification with the topic, how close someone is to reality, upbring, peer group etc I'm sorry for this next line: In some ways you are discussing character or manners in your post above, while asking people not to.

Well when we give or see a comment like that, its a way of seeing it in ourselves or the other. The arguments you see are huge signs of things to learn or grow from. Its the most direct, highlighted way to grow if someone is willing. Its never nice and doesn't feel good but those feelings get the mind to focus on why.

The summary of this topic is, for me. Everyone painted themselves into a corner here. Until we are willing to look at all aspects of it, we will repeat the mistakes.

1, I understand of course but it doesn't work like that in practice for complex devices. High tech devices are made by many countries, you get one piece here, one piece here and one pierce here. 2, You'll be surprised. i would be astonished if Germany didn't go to nuclear power for example. There is a lot of anger and political will to come off Russian gas. Its not going to be overnight but Russia has lost there significantly. All western countries have acknowledged it is a strategic mistake to buy from Russia. That's a huge developed market to lose. This alone is the biggest hit to Russia. 3, Yes. 4. True but even if the first point above wasn't true, that's a ten year process of redesign and many other technical challenges. For example they will need to completely change their software, their hardware how it all connects together. Systems are fragile at the best of times, even when everyone knows what they are doing (which they never do) and all the parts are working. You'll have to take that from a software engineer's experience. 5. Yep. If they are willing to pay a large cost for such a huge country. I don't think you are really factoring in scale here but yes. The end effect is the same, a weakened economy. 6, That was true until a week ago. Now its Russia that is the one losing respect and influence globally. The aggressor always does. Europe for example just got a huge boost in unity against Russia and that isn't going to end the day Russian forces stop killing people, or even if they left tomorrow. The refugee's will be here, the rebuilding will need to be done. We should also add that Russian cash reserves have been limited because their central bank is. Again there will be work arounds but again it'll be a cost.

Yes thank you. I really wish we had that indepth look at the way Russia was governed and its society existed, from a yellow thinker somewhere for reference, we'd learn so much. Yes it isn't. Its my bias. The biggest obstacle I am aware of now, is the cloak around Russia, one poster called it the Myth, its hurt itself and us with it.

In world that reflects you to yourself. How are unconscious aspects of yourself best realised. Techniques, thoughts, and practical solutions. Anything welcome. Brute force repetition to realise unconscious aspects of life, is obviously there for all of us, but also very tiresome and painful. What else do you personally do for perception? Thank you for your time and energy.

@tsuki It depends on the intent. It becomes propoganda when I say something to you on mass everywhere, with the intent of telling you a story, a reflection, a duality or something I want to be true for everyone and everything. Which I have realised I had a trait of doing. It doesn't work when the citizens are different or completely opposed to what is being said. It only works if they have something inside of them that accepts, or agrees or reflects what's being said. So what the quote you have taken is also saying to me is, the people repeating the state message, have that message in them somewhere or can accept it. Its difficult because its so far apart from the western perspective, or polarity, the two sides are so far apart and that's why we have conflict and misunderstanding. Maybe I'd be best trying to show where they are similiar rather than different. *We also have the conflict because - I want X to be true for everyone and everything. Is in both.

Sanctions have several uses. Its orange limiting red in this case. I would assume that was the point of the businessman and soldier picture above for anyone wondering. My answer to the picture is that it depends on the country. The Russian economy is weakened and over time very weakened. Technology that is there now won't be replaced because exports are blocked. Phones, computers, planes, weaponry, anything high tech is gone. This is oranges way of thinking, expanding the point Russia is now in a costly long term war with a weakened economy, which it hasn't planned to be in. Its put aside reserves but this will be 10 years of draining fuel, supplies, tanks, men, guns, food, ammo etc. What happens to a weakened russian economy fighting an expensive occupation war. It slowly goes further downhill. The military weakens etc. That's the full orange thinking and plan. Red thinking in Russia could be. I see Putin is old, he's showing weakness, he's costing me money, so I'll make my move. Which doesn't mean the red mind doing that will be better, it probably won't. *Maybe we can hope it'll be a different type of person taking power eventually. It hurts the Russian people, yes and I feel for them, but the Russian people are the country, eventually what they are is what leads them. It can't be otherwise without the massive instability, that you see in some countries and will see in Ukraine if Russia Occupy it. Russia based leadership will not reflect the Ukraine population, and so there will be instability unless Russia adapts. This is just a fact of how countries and people imposing their will over others works. So green, we have sympathy for the people and what they are going through, the horrific nature of war. What we don't have are green governments almost anywhere, let alone many Yellow speakers. Some of the European governments are green but not a lot. That's what I see, if I am missing anything please someone expand for me. Thanks. *What I can see i am missing is, 44 million new citizens, will change Russia by being part of it. If under occupation or a puppet. It can't be otherwise without constant war, instability and fighting. That's a big chunk of Russia's population being added.

Funny thing reflected. This reflection can only be me, only come from me, within me :D. Thanks no replies needed. Just a smile.