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Here: Daily interactions can initiate social change, just two people speaking or interacting refines it. Many movements are entirely benign, they just tend to be slower and so harder to spot or see the contrast. Material reasons are not necessarily bad either, if people miss all the more subtle reasons, material reasons are then brought into focus. Pyramids imply status over others to me and maybe that's my bias. When governance is separated from financial wealth or benefits aside from just doing their best for the people they are governing, it's no different from any job. Whereas with kings you had wealth power, titles, land etc. Money was the same thing in a more accessible form. It was accessible until the wealth gap became pronounced to separate people from power so completely. On an ideal council, you would get a job to do, that should be entirely divorced from any excess material benefit for doing it. Regular pay like everyone gets, and that's it. In the modern-day they are suppressed far beyond what they ever were before. They are also very comfortable and comfort is enough for most people. The value systems of materialism are geared toward things, as long as people have things they have happiness. What can be done? The minimalist movement helps, things are no longer the basis for existence. So do people trying to build small housing or live simpler lifestyles. Conversely expanding us to be a multi-planetary species, because it would give us collectively something other than materialism to focus on. Raising consciousness awareness helps. Deprogramming words like cult or extremist to be something more meaningful rather than merely reactionary wards/words to stop change. We could deprogram forever but we'd be here forever. People tried bitcoin to make wealth more universal or accessible for example, but it's still based on materialism and still prone to the same wealth gap as everything else was. If you have more you get more. The only system of power that would be universally balanced is entirely nonmaterial in nature, which can't compound the rate at which you gain it by simply having more. If you work that out let me know, we'll save the world together :D, but more seriously it would form the basis of a better world. You might say consciousness and my instinct is to say we'd need a bridge from that to here and a way to avoid replacing figureheads with figureheads. If you want something else radical that you won't like, stop people giving up their power to figureheads. Which forms the foundation of this discussion from my perspective. That's why you (and most others) don't give proper credit to the mass change that happens daily within society and consciousness. Why we have this debate, because I see the same value in all people and you have it weighted toward figureheads. Leo does too from what I can see, and so do most people, so you are not alone, and that's why we have this problem where no change is happening. People give up their power to other people who have no motivation to change anything because they already have what they want. My bias is obviously that I can't stand figureheads, and the more set someone becomes in a position of stagnant authority the more I tend to dislike them. For the soul/body/mind, any distinction you like to make can be created, or can be collapsed, its all the same. @Oeaohoo

@Oeaohoo *For your benefit entirely, you are creating a duality between the soul/mind/body where none exists. I often fight with the soul, but then that fight is reflected in the environment quickly enough. Its more that I create resistance to myself or what exists, rather than a separate part of me is somewhere making life difficult. That would be far too easy to avoid responsibility for my own manifestations You are confusing ability with awareness. You can be very able and very unwise. Which leads to tremendous self arrogance and usually a fall. You could be a man in a very simple job, who was incredibly wise, I've met many simple people who I learned wisdom from. So to think these people day to day are not leading to change in others and they all need guidance to do so is simply untrue. Society wasn't always a pyramid at all. At one time it was run by councils or a gathering of village elders, among other systems. I think you mean money is a pyramid, which it is, but that isn't the source of all or even where the majority of societal change originates. New systems of governance form when there is no leader as well. The old model is far from guaranteed to return. Precisely because there is no leader guiding it toward a model at all. The most successful and indeed destructive revolutions often had no clear leader, destruction is often a requisite of change so something new is built in its place. Of course, eventually, someone leads and yes backing helps, but the change itself doesn't need to be initiated by any single individual, it's the people themselves that often initiate mass change by the weight of their will, fear of what they will do otherwise, or in times gone by physical act. The very fact they are so well manipulated now is why we have no significant change happening. You can absolutely rouse the rabble to overturn the global world order, or you could until about 1980 perhaps, that's the point. Then eventually a leader might result from doing so. Historically there is no guarantee that the new system is better than the old one. Whether a leader exists or not. Let's talk about something less dramatic though, and while anything can fail, assume these efforts are successful below for the sake of the discussion. Example: 1, 6 people get together to form a group dedicated to cleaning up their community. They have no leader, they go picking up trash, the place looks better and they succeed in showing others to look after their local area by example. 2, 20 people start a workers cooperative at their local supermarket, it has no leader it has shareholders. Sure there is a manager and it has supervisors but there is no single voice greater than the rest. Let's assume they succeed, which a company literally called the COOP in the UK ran a business model not dissimilar to this, here is its first form: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_Society_of_Equitable_Pioneers 3, 12 Therapists work at a clinic. The manager only comes in on the weekends to make sure everything is running well. I sit there at a desk and diagnose which therapists might be best for the client. This was my old job and I was not the leader of the place, I was on the front desk. Yet I was every day helping people and changing their lives, which in turn changed that small town. At least more than one person told me so at the time. 4, People get together on a forum and talk about life, they help each other improve and from time to time amongst all the many messages, inspire small but meaningful changes in others. Like right here. Sure Leo runs this place, and he is responsible for getting people here. Makes lots of changes in others too, and I'm sure sometimes in Leo himself. So do a lot of other people here, in conversations he's not present in. Finally, on your democracy breeds tyrants, it can, it or can give rise to a very humble intelligent politician. Identities or figureheads with too much power are always troublesome. Either way, I'd prefer a democratically elected council, with guess what, no single leader that's asked to carry the entire weight of every individual's whim on his/her shoulders. Teams elected and overseeing different areas of society, which are re-elected when they need to be, rather than throwing out others that are doing a good job because one man's time is up at an arbitrary number of years, or another unrelated council member was caught in a scandal.

Yes i've no illusions they will be anyone pleasant to deal with, but just a different name and face will mean it's possible for people to more easily begin to cease hostilities and mend the rifts. I get the feeling countries like Germany are really holding out hope for this possibility. As long as its nobody with dreams of a new USSR or Russian Empire that will be enough to mean we won't have a repeat of this again.

The body does change the soul and the spirit because they are the same thing. We are doing work that changes soul/spirit every day we are alive. Let's get the context: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_revolutions_and_rebellions So there were a thousand or so major ones and an uncountable amount of smaller movements that made smaller changes. Putting aside you are factually incorrect that every revolution has a leader, there are demonstrations in the middle east right now that are leaderless for example. Nowhere in my post did I mention leadership. Leaders get nowhere without popular support, or money/title enough to artificially create it. Power is where power is. If it's top-down that's where the power is. If it's in the hands of people that's where the power is. You can only imagine it one way because you've only known it one way. In modern-day, the state has more power than it ever has had. Right down to whatever information you are allowed to see at all day to day, what food you can eat, what entertainment is acceptable, language you can use etc. In era's gone by communities were ruled much more at the local level, so things were more organically governed, and power was decentralized significantly more. Kings for example feared their peasants, for good reason, they didn't laugh when a few of them got together and held up signs, they didn't have all the tools of state suppression governments now enjoy. When it comes to governance, no matter how benign someone's motives are, we live in a dystopian nightmare when it comes to social order.

@Oeaohoo There have been uncountable social changes and developments that happen through mass movements and revolutions. You are cherry-picking history.

One way for Russia to exit from the war or hostile stance, and end-all of this, is for Putin to step down from ill-health. Poison, Illness, true or not I really don't care. People could negotiate much easier with a Russian that wasn't Putin. It is one way that we all go back to some kind of normality after this.

Genes can be activated or deactivated depending on individual circumstances and environmental factors. This is still being understood and cutting-edge research. That's why some people with a gene for an illness will get it and not others. It's not much help, other than to say live life the best way you can and read up on what material has been discovered on the subject. There's no guarantee The more you get spiritual experiences the fewer guarantees there will be Let go of the need for a guarantee, of anything, or any expectations whatsoever. Spiritual teachers used to advise cultivating a receptive state. That's not passively pulling back or closing down, and it's not actively seeking a specific thing. It's keeping an open door for life to come to you on its terms, while actively pursuing spirituality as a whole. If you meditate a lot you might reach this state often. Other than that you can work on specific things like astral travel, dream recall, third eye work, kundalini, self-inquiry, past life regression, breathing, or Taoist energy work. There are a lot of books or websites out there on all of these things. It requires dedicated practice. It requires removing toxins from your system (detox). Living life in a loving, joyful or at least grateful state. It requires the reintegration of all the parts of you that you are resisting, or are feeling disconnected and hurt from. Otherwise, you are splintered and fractured. Incense, sound healing, or visual healing is also beneficial to reach you on deeper levels. Hope it helps. If you have an area of spirituality you are looking at specifically maybe someone can better advise where to start. If you want further help beyond that, when you dream tonight, set the intent for your dream body to bring it to you. All about the intent, you shape events around it.

As has been said. Throw out the chart if you do bodybuilding, it's only going to make you depressed. I used to torment myself with it. Now I would just go for a run and make sure I can do the miles.

Couldn't agree more. In the higher grades, we used to raise ourselves with our knuckles for example on the wood floor when we stood, and do small exercises like that to toughen the hands. Nothing extreme but week in week out it's all conditioning. A bit like how free weights are better than a gym machine because you get all the benefits of moving them about, and stabilizing the weights yourself during the exercise.

Yes. It's been dead for a few decades. Laws have been passed to cripple protests, and take the teeth out of any popular movement. People see how ineffectual gatherings are and give up on them. Governments have become adept at disinformation and media suppression, so much so regular people hate the protestors more than they do what's being protested. We are heading toward environmental collapse which means the gradual death of everyone and everything. Day by day. Year by Year. In a sane world that operated in a healthy way, there would be worldwide protests every day until this was corrected. People have always been self-interested. Things on a gradual decline are easily knocked aside for immediate gratification, even if that gratification is a feel-good media illusion. Human's ability to adapt to slow change is part of their downfall. The sense of being able to operate in a group for social change gets labeled as a cult, or attacked from all quarters as extremist quicker than you can blink. Such obvious programming that people should be able to see it on mass. This applies to things like the environmental decline over decades or centuries. Also things like the gradual erosion of any home/work balance which in recent years has skewed so much toward work, that it's long facilitated a breakdown of families and so society as a whole. I wish I could adequately describe how much more of a robot I feel at work than I did twenty years ago. It's one of the reasons I am doom and gloom about where life is headed because the force of popular change has been bound to the point it's almost completely ineffective. Worse, people are taught to be happy with that outcome. As I see it this is because of the rise of authoritarianism from the east, which people have been slowly acclimatizing to, at the expense of any force that could drive change for the better. Vilification of anything that is different or outside of the structure those in power decide.

Definitely. The giving and connecting emotions build energy outward. The disconnected individual-focused ones draw it inward. *Editing this for clarity. Nothing wrong with disconnected or selfish emotions i have plenty, just recognizing that energetically they draw inward rather than build outward.

By form. In watching forms god watches itself. Otherwise, there would be no distinction between anything and you'd observe nothing. Form creates form.

This is about subtleties so there are many factors or ways of looking at it. When you are in a very high energetic state, people are often magnetically drawn to you, but it's YOU that brought them there. This was a very hard lesson I had to learn. If it was as she described, she was as much a magnet as you were. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mantak+chia+energy+dynamics It depends on how weak their own boundaries are. Connections energetically happen often before we know it. You can certainly manipulate others into giving up energy and you can certainly do it without thinking about it. A good way to become conscious of energy dynamics is by doing regular energetic work, like Kundalini Yoga or Taoist practices under Mantak Chia (great teacher) which I gave in that search link above. Some teachers talk about visualizations of removing energetic connections in a calm relaxed way. Example: This post drew a certain amount of energy to type. Let's say you made another post that was deep down just seeking attention but wrapped up as a question. Then you gave it to someone who forms their own identity around helping others. You could have a constant energy dynamic where they gave up their time/energy to help you, and both of you were getting what you need. - This would be a relatively benign energy exchange from both parties, but you can imagine patterns where it's not about help its about abuse, or control, or manipulation etc. Then imagine that advertisers know these patterns like the back of their hand, to understand that there are people walking around that are experts at this. I just picked advertisers to show an easy example, you can find people in all walks of life that are masters at it. I am somewhat sensitive to the energy of a room. If it's thick and bitter for example I can feel that walking in. If it's lively and intense I can feel that. You can be with a person that's down on everything, and they do this day in day out, maybe at work. That would be someone sucking in other people's attention and energy. Maybe they are going through something for the day and so you are happy to give it up, help them through it. Maybe all day every day they moan about everything and no amount of attention or help on your end is ever going to be enough for them. If there is a group the energy tends to balance out, but if enough people are in a negative state the group's energy will tank. I've heard it said a few positive people can balance out several negative polarities because they compound, it's much more supportive. Whereas individuals in a negative or drawing state are individuals for the most part. I believe, that a few energetic individuals can really change a room's energy. I also believe that these overlapping fields in a wider area are often held in place by whoever is in the best state energetically. Picking your peer group is really important you can't control every interaction you are going to have, just where you spend your time intentionally. It's also part of the reason why we are limited energetically by those that are the worse off in our society, because when looked at even as a very large group its always a shared field.

@Jodistrict Oversimplifying history is a necessity if it's going into a few pages of a model. The evidence to support spiral dynamics is in modeling human progression throughout history. How accurately it does it is what can be debated. The word cult gets thrown around like a wet newspaper these days. Also known as anything that deviates from the norm with sufficient intellectual reasoning or spiritual belief behind it. It's only a problem when people lose their ability to critically think for themselves, and start looking to an individual to decide their life for them, but then that would be the case if someone were especially lost in life. I agree it's somewhat flawed in that the entire thing has a collectivist bias, but it does allow for things like human history to be shown as part of consciousness development, and the collectivist/individualist dynamic to be expressed in a way it hasn't been elsewhere. Up until maybe 5-10 years ago, I hadn't seen collectivist and individualist dynamics discussed at all, or even recognized as the driving forces between many things like disagreements in society, spiritual fractures, troubles in relationships, and impasses in development, or wars being fought. Of course. That's life. Everything is formless eventually. @Danioover9000

Shotokan Karate was great. It's defensive and counterattacking until blackbelt, by which time you'll be disciplined, strong, and have little fear of confrontation, or any want to initiate it. I would sum up its ethos as how to get out of trouble, and strengthen the body/mind. I would look for a variant that still has unpadded kumite (sparring), which is part of the reason I felt confident because I was used to sparing more naturally. I had hardened wrists, legs and arms. Every week you are training to be hit, so a punch becomes nothing to fear. You'll walk a head taller after doing it for six months. As for spiritual marital arts, I've always been told that studying the ways of a ninja (Ninjutsu) with the spiritual component is what people recommend.

On models. People adapt models all the time. I get that he's just passed so there would be sympathy naturally for wanting his work preserved, but that doesn't mean the way he's conceptualized life needs to remain stagnant from now on. Things don't remain static for long, if a model doesn't adapt to the changing conditions of consciousness then it's done. All that said, Leo would eventually benefit from devising his own model and having that become the thing people were referencing in the future, even if it took a lot of inspiration from this one.

@rnd Read about the history of Russia invading Eastern Europe repeatedly. Understand Putin's comments when he says he believes many of those countries on its border belong to Russia, and how that makes them react. Put aside the US boogieman and ask yourself why all of their neighbors want to join NATO. Consider why Russia has the right to tell anyone how to run their own country. Look at how Russia went from a country trying to democratic reform and looking to join the EU, into first an autocracy and now a fascist state. Look at how every time Russia threatens a country all countries pull closer together defensively. Read about the REAL Azov which were several hundred strong. They reformed to become part of the national guard, their leader left to try and get elected, he got 2% of the vote. They became 3,000 strong, people taken from all walks of life, regular people. 2% of the popular vote went to the far right, this has been on a decline in every Ukrainian election. With all the Russian fascist internal groups and its Russian Imperial Movement exporting Nazi's overseas who is the real fascist state? Want the answer, everyone has a far-right. Consider if scapegoating the extremists to attack the other 98% is pure propaganda and if it makes sense? If so, attack yourselves next. Read about the real history of the Donbass, the Russian-backed separatist movement, the trouble they started. The forces they put into the DPR which caused a rebellion there. Understand they did this because democratic forces overthrew the Russia puppet government. Understand all the gas that is under that part of the country, and that almost all wars are fought over resources. Understand why the Azov made their stand at the steel plant, which robbed Russia of part of what they wanted. Understand why Russia are going after all the port cities. It's not a coincidence that this area is used for trade. Money. Money. Money. That's all men ever fight over.

Someone mentioned the map of consciousness. Divine love, unconditional, without attachment or expectation, Is not the same as what most of us know as love. It is significantly stronger or more complete than romantic attachment or joy as an emotion for example. If you were in that state for long you wouldn't be here. That's all I know for a certainty. This is how you get there. Love every poster in this thread, sit down and show gratitude, joy and then love for every single word spoken. Pick the poster that you have the most difficulty with and find reasons to love their words, or them, or the experience. For some people it takes untangling acceptance with love, or agreement with love, or whatever they've tied to it. Love is just love. It's nothing else. There is nothing else there to attach to it. Love everything that enters your life. It's all you. Love everything you currently hate. Again, it's not agreement, it's not acceptance, it's just love. You can actively work to change something while loving it for example. Its not being a doormat, its not accepting or allowing abuse, violence or narcissism. It can be difficult, but there is no barrier to it other than what you put up. No thinking of worth or deserving, or worrying about what it will mean. So I'll end this one saying love to you all, and all the words that are spoken here, all the people that put their time and effort into these discussions to help others/yourself. Gratitude to leo and the moderators for running this and their effort in maintaining it. Thank you all for the many replies to all the topics here to increase awareness and insight. You all restored my faith in spiritual development where it was almost gone. If you want a spiritual practice that embodies this, the fifth agreement does. Toltec shamans do. Gratitude.

I don't mean to come down too hard on you and your experience, that's sort of the point though. To a certain extent, reality works differently for each of us. Based on who we are. If I were starting this comment chain I wouldn't say proof I would say: Experience is enough. When you have experienced a cycle of reflection over decades it's embodied. Some people can begin to manifest in 5 minutes, it takes me towards a year. That's just how it is. When someone says manifesting is easy, these days I laugh. It's not for me, that's my experience and my reality. Just like how some of us can predict the future, not like a spiritual seer might, I do it based on observing obvious mechanical patterns in people's behavior and looking at historical trends. The more awareness I gain the more obvious people's patterns are because I have seen them in myself, this changes the nature of any interaction I have. I somewhat predicted the response would be to refer to the absolute. We are absolute, so if I am stubborn, the reality around me is also stubborn. If I am argumentative, the reality around me will reflect that. If I say thank you for taking the time to respond to me, and place my hands together, gratitude will be reflected in how I interact with others.

There is no proof because its demonstratively false. Want isn't always created in front of your eyes. It completely depends on what is internally and externally going on. Consider how even in your own life you've wanted something, I mean really wanted it and not achieved or obtained it. Something you poured a year into, months, or countless hours. Still even now you might want it and have never found or gained it. Have you had those experiences? Because I have. In my case I was teaching myself persistence, that failure wasn't fatal. That often you don't get what you want. Often you get what's best for the group around you. Things around me have moved so far away from what I actually want, that the notion of this is comical and is making me laugh. I had to learn to adjust to what others wanted, I had to learn humility, empathy, how to transition through emotions etc. There are many reasons we exist on earth, and its not just to get what we want.

If there are complicated medical processes in place. To assess someone's psychological condition, and also their likelihood to recover from crippling pain for example. If these things are considered, then yes. If I was in too much pain to move physically I would kill myself. Why would I care about the law, i'd be dead. There is something missed in emotional pain and also surviving with a certain amount of physical discomfort. Its a rich experience, it shows you are alive. Its never coming again, once you are dead its gone. Its yours only for now, and it can lead to you not wanting to give up that pain, strange as it sounds to someone who has never been deeply tormented or in extreme emotional distress. In some cases its all you have. If you live there long enough it's expected, it forms a certain security about how you view the world and your place within it. Eventually it forms part of your identity and you learn to live with it, or use it to your and others' advantage. Some easy examples, victims of abuse, or drug users relating to people who have been through that, because who else really can? People who have been in serious accidents or suffered PSD in conflict, speaking or empathizing with others who have gone through it. I never could on the level they do in this example. Again I made the case in another thread that emotional intelligence needs to be taught in school, and part of that is the ability to allow emotions, to move through people naturally. This means emotional states naturally come and go, they are not resisted, buried, avoided, escaped or magnified to be bigger than they are. This at least would have spared me a couple of decades of deeply depressive states. *To relate, consider the discomforts you live with or have lived with in life and how they form your view of others/things or the world around you, eventually becoming part of your identity.

To the individual the shadow of liberalism and authoritarianism are similar. They believe they know best how you should live. They believe their values should be your values. Be aware though that rebellion against liberalism is also part of the same dynamic, and part of how it operates. Maybe help contribute to the third way? In whatever form that takes in your life.

@charlie cho Aside from career pursuits, or how to react in a crisis for example, it is not so much about teaching them authenticity or how to be social, its about getting them to think on it and gain their own awareness of society and themselves. This brings authenticity naturally. That sums everything below, as I went far into possible methods. Firstly when I read your words, its evident that we are almost starting from ground zero. We are so far behind other forms of education we are needing to discuss how they can be taught at all in the modern setting. Social intelligence, Two things I can think of that are taught are how to work in a team and how to communicate in a group. I would extend this to how to work on a class project. Once in every class, I would assign roles as if it were a business, or a council, a TV studio, a charity, a sporting event etc. I would go through every major group or setting I could think, of and make sure at least one example was given to the child of how to operate within it. I would then focus on communication. How to effectively communicate with your boss, and your coworkers. In the curriculum I would have mock interviews, and how to handle them face to face. I would put students through having to write 50 job applications to get one interview, and have them work on their CV. I would teach them persistence to get a goal and how to handle disappointment or rejection. I would go to great pains to show them how to handle failure and rejection, to the point it became as natural as breathing. In a wider context of current events. I would show how to relate to friends and family through difficult social issues that are arising at the time. How to process the problems we as a family, friend or society face, to have them think on and develop their own answers or methods of processing these issues. Covering things like personal loss, distance from friends/family, how to deal with changing circumstances, how to meet new people and form connections with them. I would try to explain group dynamics and extend this beyond the individual. I would try to explain the dynamics of all systems we have in society. The nature of society's interactions with police, politics, different cultures, the environment, industries, events, and protests. I would try to keep this at a group level, and give them a group awareness not just considering the individual. It's important to link to the individual as we live in individualist societies in the west, but having that group awareness means the collective can be related to as a group, rather than just individual members within it. In some lessons, I would especially try to foster a sense of class community, rather than them just being individuals they would be a class watching each other's back. That's me with a basic understanding of social intelligence, I am sure if there was a socially intelligent genius present designing the curriculum they would better define this, especially the last part. Emotional intelligence. Even more so it's about having them develop their own awareness, not telling them how to feel. There are books and books on this to offer insight but nothing beats self-awareness. I would demonstrate each emotion and some examples of it. I would do so in image, color, music, language and location for the younger kids. What people experience when going through it. To show them its perfectly natural and they are not odd or alone for feeling a certain way. I would show cues for reading body language, tones or obvious signs in others. Examples in film, or literature to relate to others going through a certain emotion or event like loss, bullying, breakup, or parents divorce, on the extreme end when to call for help if someone is suicidal or being abused. I would introduce them to a wide variety of places and locations they were unfamiliar with and get them used to uncertainty for example. I would have them watch sad films, happy films, films that covered each emotion well, which schools do, I would try and get them to feel comfortable in different emotional states so they could move them through them more easily. I would have them identify whether they were feeling happy or joy doing something or just distracting themselves. This will save them decades later and a small fortune in bills. I would get them to develop their own emotional guidance system. I would discuss topics that bring about emotional states, and offer support and guidance how to look internally. I would prepare them for the triggered emotions we all experience in life. There are a million different models for emotional awareness to pick to discuss to better relate this. I'd have them write out their own emotional states, what they are feeling right now, to experience it and realise it. I would stop them often and have them assess what they are feeling right now to develop nuance in their emotional range. Especially when an argument broke out, i'd encourage them to become aware of why it happened, and what they are feeling. I would model the different human needs and the different emotions we go through in trying to find them. I would describe emotional spirals, why they happen, and how to act/react to them. For older kids I would talk frankly about addictions and how they fill emotional voids. I would speak about abuse, the trauma inflicted, and how we shape our behaviors around it. I would have people do what we did in smaller doses, in gaining our own self-awareness. Self-reflect on our own behaviors, but not as a punishment as a regular event. Why we are triggered to react a certain way, I would deeply encourage self-awareness and understanding of why we are who we are. Why others act as they do and how to not only predict reactions but understand the meaning behind them, and why we can cause them ourselves with our behaviors. Why sometimes we are our own worst enemy, in creating that which we least want. Virtues. I wouldn't just punish a kid for being dishonest, or disrespectful for example, I would go into great detail about two lives led, one that was dishonest and one that was honest for example. Pictures, a lifepath diagram with choices made, the results, the emotions that came about, why they informed the choices, and what resulted. Preferably with real-life examples. Both of these things we are talking about are touched on to a lesser degree, and sometimes the kids will pick up on them, but the fact they are not emphasized to be as important as the grades in other subjects, is why we are failing.

@Danioover9000 What defines how qualified someone is to be in a position of power? How does this type of experience-based or top-heavy leadership not lead to the stagnation or growth of the country? How does it not lead to internal unrest? Because naturally, the most experienced leaders are older, and naturally they are going to be less in touch with the younger generations, i.e those most prone to civil unrest.

The universe is love. Totally and completely. It has no conditions, no predispositions, no expectations. The more you love the more you are. Having experienced divine love once so profoundly it doesn't fit into words. What most call love, even desire, or intense passion for another is a minor experience compared to realizing divine love. The problem is, I put this experience up on a pedastool and don't realise that touching a leaf is the same. Drinking water is the same. These words are the same. Your reactions are the same. I could only think Sadhguru is trying to bring them closer together.