BlueOak

1) No you are not. You are dealing with a % of the population who has become radicalized, more so now because of your actions. Only 1 in 200 people are born psychopaths. 2) As I have said in other threads and this one, there were multiple ways to handle this situation, you have chosen genocide. Do not make me out to be a hippy, when in previous conversations I have said airstrikes and covert action, such as professional special forces, to recover hostages should have been part of any operation. These methods should have been used first, and then if you wanted to conduct this campaign when the hostages were recovered, you still could have. Allies should have been brought in first, giving you political legitimacy, outside resources, and a cushion that isn't just one lone president Biden being vilified by the world. - I won't repeat it all, its in the thread I linked. For all the reasons i've already discussed, it would have been better for you long term, when your emotion dies down, to have gone this route. You have a black-and-white understanding of reality. Where people need to be one or the other. That is not how life is. Its very complicated, with many factors, and a lot of emotion here especially.

@Lila9 I also apologize if I am coming across as too logical rather than emotional or understanding of your emotional state. I have a bias towards wanting to avoid aggression and violence. So any lessening of it I can inspire in anyone, I will usually go out of my way to do. In whatever form works. I do not say things I don't honestly feel or mean. My words only have value if they are truthfully what I am thinking or feeling. The power is mostly with you all, not Hamas currently, they are almost powerless in pure reaction to survive but I think you all feel that way too. Perhaps the energy and focus is best put in showing you that you do have options, power, and a real say in how this goes. Survival thinking is not your only option, you did (and still do have a few allies left willing to help), though you are creating the pure isolationism you feel to be reflected in the world around you. That is a choice on your part, and I wish at least you could understand that you help create and shape the wider reality you experience going forward.

@Lila9 YES Its easier to judge from an outside perspective, that's why you go to it for clarity! People with distance are not operating purely on emotion, they can give us a perspective we lack in any situation. That's also why we listen to other people with the opposite view to ours to form a framework to operate out of. That's the whole point! (Its much of the point of life too) You can obtain near-systematic thinking just by listening to enough perspectives and involving them in the discussion! Because they are the system! Or you can do it all yourself, but like you say fewer people are capable of modeling a situation sufficiently in their mind, and everyone is flawed or more vulnerable to gaps in logic on their own when they try. I can only do it to the degree I've studied and absorbed the subject, usually by encountering people who have challenged my perspective to deepen it. Collectively though you can do it with a group much easier. Simply. How you get worse results, is just doing what comes into your own head, or even worse what you think is a good idea in the moment. How you get better results is constantly engaging with many other viewpoints on a subject, until you understand it well enough to form a multi-faceted conclusion. The point is taken that I don't live in the level of fear Israeli's do. That I am not used to the same intensity in our actions here, if anything my bias is near the opposite of intensity, its comfort. But that means I can give you something you currently lack, the completely opposite side of this, not the Palestinian side, the actual opposite. The guy the other side of the world viewing this and deciding what it means going forward in our dealings with your country. The entire world is connected, in so many ways, and you will be affected by the actions you take. - At the bare minimum you get to address how you speak to that voice, you get to begin to form answers to questions you will hear repeated for the next 20, 30, 50 years of your life here and now. However, as i've said a 100 times, you don't just use the stick on a problem, you use the carrot and the stick. No matter your country's stage of development, that's a universal thing. Unilateral action by a state rarely works out for the best, for anyone, including the state itself. Now what else do you want me to say about Palestinians to make you feel better, if that is possible, I can try. Other than Hamas have caused their entire country to fall apart and their homeland to burn? What other criticism is needed? This whole if you are not with us you are against us, is a deep problem you have personally and collectively. To some people, it would create enemies where none exist. To me, I just see it as your pain expressed, and the suffering you've endured looking for an outlet, and for that, you have my deepest sympathies. I hope when this all ends, life is better, despite all my pessimism and seeing cycles repeat.

Winning isn't the societal purpose of a live debate. Discourse and having views exchanged, opinions heard, and people feeling like they are part of the process is. By alienating them, or pretending they don't exist, the system is undermining its legitimacy.

Here is where the republican party is slightly more democratic than the democratic party: It is not much. Trump wanted to avoid the debates for example, but the republican party still had them. So the party itself is more democratic than the democrats on this issue. I know there are 50 other reasons you are going to say the opposite of those you hate, but it's important I highlight where democracy is breaking down in America generally, and why/how, the country is sliding into a dictatorship. if I don't do this, and if it goes further, I can't say I showed it happening.

I am not unaware that people of influence put forward candidates that they can tolerate. They fund them, position them, and get them in power. A few things are different: Money and power is in fewer hands, so fewer views are presented. Propaganda to manufacture support is more intense and invasive. Less space is provided for opposing viewpoints to be discussed, this problem is systemic, and I don't think you see the natural progression to anarchy it brings as more of the whole is excluded. Populists naturally fall outside this narrowing system and that's another reason why populism is growing. It seems also a factor of declining masculinity, as the masculine energy or influence on society allows space for opposing views to exist. People are not as fragile when there is healthy masculinity in society, in their lives, or fearful of debate happening. Populism aside, yes powerful people have often decided who you get to see in the first place, but I've never seen it be limited to two people in America like this during my lifetime. Surely you can see that's a downgrade toward dictatorship from a dozen potential presidents.

If you mean: Business as usual. The further slide into dictatorship in America. The trend that has been going on throughout my lifetime, yes. If you mean this always happened. No. Journalism was not propaganda, it was journalism, at its best a search for facts, at its worst sensationalism of stories for drama. Either way, people did not pretend challengers didn't exist. People did not elect their candidates ahead of votes. People were not so scared of rivals they decided they couldn't tolerate an opposing opinion. That last part is the snowflake generation made manifest. In decades gone by all of these men/women would be on a stage and the debate, seeing the opposing opinions, would be the point. That would be the democratic part of the process in action.

Part of the reason people on the right are beginning to hate Israel is. They are causing 2 million more refugees. So yes they think about it, but not in the way you think they do. The populist left and even the center, lost the argument you are trying to argue against, its all about self-interest now. I will say racists, nationalists but even more people who just hate migrants (programmed to domestically, turning anger away from economic realities or challenges), are starting to turn against Israel, because they link up what you are doing with problems they are facing themselves. What's 2 million split 20 ways? 100k a piece. Those 20 countries will get the majority of the migrants eventually through the gradual relocation of families, often 'encouraged' by the neighboring states. So you will cause them 100,000 new migrants. You might say not all will leave, you only leveled half the land. Okay. 50,000 if you manage to limit the war to that single region, somewhat unlikely at this amount of regional tension. You already see people fearmongering about the border and Palestinians entering countries ahead of time, because the people doing it want to get the message out now. So around the globe for right-wingers who hate migration, and people who understand social issues, you are giving everyone the social and economic burden of your actions. And BTW even if its 5 migrants, the right will still magnify that to be an invading horde for their own propaganda these days.

1) We already had this discussion: Yes Hamas wanted to destroy you. Very true. They committed a horrific act. What was Israel's response? A horrific act of greater magnitude. Someone else would just argue morals with you, i'm not that person. I can use that if affects you, to say you are as bad as they are, worse right now. But what does that matter to your life tomorrow practically? The point I am making, is this action is going to harm your country more than help your country. I am trying to appeal to your survival instinct and self-interest. Trying to show you a larger picture, where isolationism or unilateralism is causing the world itself to split apart, country by country, groups internally inside those countries fracturing, and turning individuals against each other. Yes we can all act on emotion. My first thought when I saw this was Israel should occupy Gaza. That was my emotional reaction, it is usually my emotional reaction when I see noncombatants harmed. Thankfully I have distance from it, so I was able to logically look at the problem, and calculate better options. Israel instead, and I understand why, acted purely on emotion, they acted unilaterally, and with no regard for anything else except revenge. Had they sort out military and diplomatic allies, they would have obtained a more logical systematic view from perspectives with distance to the tragedy, which by the way didn't necessarily mean altering what course Israel took. At the minimum, this current military effort would have been more effective with international support and expertise, with fewer economic, diplomatic, or security problems for Israel (and America) in the long term. For the same reason you say humans act irrationally, is the same reason I say they can act rationally. Its a choice you make every day. Often times we are faced with it. Acting purely on emotion results in terrible consequences for our personal lives, and the breakdown of social order. Putting us in jail as an example, or causing relationships of all kinds to break apart when they don't need to. In this case, it results in mass murder, going both ways. 2) Yes Hamas have caused Palestine a great deal of suffering, their actions in response to a chain of choices, have brought about the ruin of their homeland. Again you can see this highlighted in front of you, yet you cannot accept the opposite. You can't see that this sort of closed-loop thinking will result in an obvious consequence of further and now magnified violence towards you and your country. I will repeat, it will cause further security issues, fear/social repression, diplomatic issues, issues with your trade and economy, and yes a wealth of people now willing to throw rockets or bombs into your homeland for the next generations. - In some ways Iran's got exactly what it wants, making you a clear enemy of BRICS in a heavily contested region of the world, and turning most popular opinion against you. On the extreme end, I would not be surprised if Israel became a proxy war within my lifetime, slightly hyperbolic but not much with the pace of BRICS development in that region, and the waning international support that accompanies unilateral military actions.

Two things 1) From a self-preservation standpoint knowing your neighbors, why are you catering to their most dangerous and worst tendencies? 2) Yes. And Israel has given them hundreds of thousands more recruits, an excuse to do what they are doing, and legitimacy for a more extreme position or government. In their mind, they are not terrorists but fighting outside invaders. Why is it you can't see that one action creates the consequences of the next? Why do you think everything happens in a vacuum? Any excuse? There is an ethnic cleansing going on nearby. If that happened in Europe you can be sure we'd be up in arms. Russia tried a horrific but different version of destroying a culture or way of life they didn't like, and united almost the whole continent against them.

Of course its a self-created reality, you don't see me showing much surprise overall. Now Israel is creating what comes next. You can see the past but I don't understand why you can't see how this creates the next great tragedy. When it happens i'll be saying they helped create it, and all these people with moral outrage will be saying 'oh how can you say that'. I'll be sitting here having to talk to people trying to delude themselves that they had no hand or choice in it in, like it all just happened to them. And BTW a recent poll. Yes if Israel bomb someone, they don't like them, and join any group resisting them. Why is this a surprise to so many posters here?

Nothing is redundant. I like to think people only reply if they want to, everyone has agency in their actions. I have never replied to someone calling a population a cancer. Nor see this level of justification (from several viewpoints) for slaughter outside of a book or movie. It's honestly a learning experience.

I will try and engage this part of you instead. This military action will do the opposite. I repeat, it erodes international support by its unilateral nature and its direct targeting of civilians. Its aggressive response against a similar culture turns the countries in the immediate vicinity further hostile. It generates hundreds of thousands more militia fighters ready to attack Israel. It will legitimize Hamas again in many quarters. It legitimacies this level of response against Israel (and sadly other countries), it actually provides a stepping stone for the next level of response against Israel. America is moving isolationist. They are likely in the Middle East to be replaced or at least rivaled effectively by BRICS. Iran does not like Israel. There is a fair chance that Israel will find less support as a result of this atrocity being committed, and given America's pull towards isolationism, could see themselves undermined significantly. Yemen is being quite smart targeting naval trade. As this area specifically is where China will rival America soon, the ability to project naval power in the coming decades. So Israel could well see itself starved of what it needs to function as one example. It will undoubtedly see more terrorist attacks as a result of this as another example. Sanctions keep coming from different countries, which I should also show as an example.

This part of you is psychopathic.

1) In wartime flyers acting as discarded pieces of paper are not very effective, often ignored being considered enemy propaganda. 2) Simply false. The response was almost immediate. I was watching airstrikes happen. 3) They had no time at all, they were immediately being bombed. The first people knew about it they were under fire. Not long after that north gaza was cut off and surrounded. You couldn't pay me to walk that blockade now. Even at the start have to be brave to walk out in the open under fire, watching people die around you, and walking to where? A place with no certainty of anything when you get there. Not to mention, nobody in that region trusts anyone. For all they knew they would be walking to their deaths, many did. 4) The lack of food, water, and shelter, There is nowhere near enough. Also, the UN shelters keep getting hit to kill one guy, out of 30. Because Israel is dumb. There is no other way to say it, the way they are doing all this is ineffective, their leadership is short-sighted, and not very intelligent as to the long-term consequences of acting with this severity unilaterally. I heard someone who was pro israel turn around and say their leader should be shot today. That's the change that's happened internationally. They want to act alone, they'll be alone. 5) It's about 80 journalists who have been killed, but yeah people who speak out also. It was recently reported an elderly lady was killed by a sniper for saying she was older than Israel, as an example. The individual accounts, your feelings on killing people you don't like (which is concerning you'd state that) and specific details are less important than the fact civilians or the press are considered legitimate targets. Israel is acting as a terrorist state. By supporting them, America is acting as a state sponsor of terrorism. 6) In wartime, outside voices help moderate the response naturally. Unilateral action with silenced dissent from the people with the most emotional investment, leads to an extended period of suffering for all involved. Banning anyone. When this first broke I couldn't say a word against this on the major media platforms, it took a lot of pressure to get that reversed. They were pushing a bill in the US to make anti-Zionism anti-Semitic, I don't know the status of that effort. It's incredibly easy to get your video pulled from youtube if don't walk on eggshells. They've been arresting people protesting in America, we get more leeway in the UK because we are not as far down the fascist rabbit hole yet. The whole point of collective voices or diplomacy for example is to stop states going too far. Israel has gone too far. Targeting civilians on mass to cause terror. which is the definition of terrorism, and America is sponsoring it. Both Hamas and Israel are a reflection of each other. Its given me a good view that the American government is hardly better than Russia, just in a different geological position.

There is never not a self-bias. You are yourself, you have a bias.

Communicating to who? People who had their communications cut? How long does it take to move a million people south down a couple of roads under fire? What about all the people that can't move? Screw them right? What about the people when they get south, sit them in a desert right, let them starve, screw them. Blow anyone up that says a bad word about you? Can't have that. Ban me if I say what I really feel right on a communication platform? Criminalize an opposing view that would moderate the response. Israel has flattened almost the entire north from hospitals to schools. Taken no other approach other than bomb, bomb, bomb. Used the most extreme option first, with no sense at all. I conclude the propaganda and self-delusion here is unreal.

If Israel bomb cities of course they are going to generate support to a resistance to the bombing, whoever that is. Then when people lose family, homes, take horrific injuries, they radicalize and become terrorists throwing rockets at Israel. Its why nationalists are generated in war for example, a want to protect the homeland. The worse you make the conditions for the population the more they'll join with whoever is standing against that. At the bare minimum it had to be a carrot and stick approach, but emotion, hatred, and general stupidity of the leadership in the region hasn't led to a want to solve the problem, only seek revenge. Well, that generates revenge. As i've said before each action generates a consequence, I don't know why anyone wants to see the consequence that comes from this, but they seemingly do.

Of course. Hundreds of thousands of new recruits. People in Palestine have little left to lose, but it'll be a useful recruiting tool worldwide for many militia groups. Any occupation of land exists as a recruitment ad forever. There is no question the US will need to leave more people in the region. It'll be a small miracle if its not a larger deployment on their bases at some point, I doubt they'll call it a war though, as its likely to just be against irregular fighters. *Though Yemen looks like its going to intercept cargo shipments, which might spill this into a conventional war. Fascism has always and will always generate war. The ideology requires war to exist. People have to be shown it directly again sadly.

Everything is perfectly flawed.

The hopelessness and nihilism of being something that isn't wanted or having a big part of you rejected, obviously creates a mirrored rejection in the people experiencing it. The tolerance (let alone acceptance or better) currently in the world is at an all-time low, from my lifespans perspective. The quickest way for you to not experience what you are experiencing is to be the exact opposite of it, you may not change the world, just your own experience of it and what it all means, There is one magic button to raise awareness, it is the shortcut to all enlightenment. @StarStruck Self Love. You being everything, means appreciating, showing gratitude, joy, and loving every experience, or as much of yourself as you are able, not in some fairytale or stereotypical hippie way, for what it is. That probably repels you. It mostly repels me at the moment again, but be aware that the shortcut is there if nobody has told you before. If they say there is no such thing as a shortcut, they are wrong. You are love at the core. That is what every experience is seeking, a return to that state, from the most obvious to the most twisted dark mirrored fear, So working toward that is like putting yourself on a fast road through your development, as opposed to walking through the mud. Till the ego kicks in, or some part of you that you can't like or tolerate, let alone show gratitude or love for presents itself, or worse grows larger, and you start walking in the mud again.

If he's just sending women he's never met or barely spent time with money overseas, what does he expect? Plus dating overseas, it has all the problems of regular dating, with more expense, less feedback, a slower pace, harder to keep it alive, and cultural or language barriers. - My experience is you've got to both really want it and work very hard to keep it going overseas. Living with parents past a certain age is a huge turn-off for women generally speaking. Maybe drop that into the conversation later when it comes up, rather than advertise it up front. Sure you'll get people telling you its not, but it really is for romance or them seeing you in that light. Sounds like he's trying to buy a relationship. That can last for a while if you have enough money, but there isn't much relating going on, so not much of a basis for any lasting relation-ship. Money should only come into that when it's about the two of them. Tell him not to try and save women, if you go into it with that mentality when the 'savings' done, he's either bored, or she's left. Trust pilot reviews are usually hovering at the mid or low end of the scale when they reach a larger number, so they are either doing a good job posting fake reviews, or the company isn't a scam. https://www.trustpilot.com/review/christianfilipina.com https://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/christianfilipina.com https://www.romancescams.org/filipina-dating/christian/christian-filipina-review/ - Here is two better ones to try apparently. Not to say that you won't get scammed if you send women money, I am sure plenty of people keep several men (suckers if we are being honest), on the line paying for everything. If it's overseas it's probably ten times easier to drag it out and juggle several people at once. My advice, split the first date price, easier to rule out a gold digger. But these days the trend is against that so *shrug*. At least don't send cash just because he can, he gives the impression he's an ATM machine.

Your thoughts are part of your reality.

Yes but not for practical reasons. Its Republicans attempt to make Biden appear a criminal like Trump through the son, because they've chosen to run headfirst into walls, rather than pick an easier candidate to win with. They chose that because Trump threatened to create his own party, which would have failed long-term but also lost the election short term. Their campaign is revenge against institutions, conspiracy, a ball of victimhood oh poor me, guilt by association from a stupid son, and the occasional trans issue. The trouble is with that approach, we've all had family, and we certainly are not responsible for their decisions. Sadly people, by and large, are still susceptible to guilt by association. It does sound weak though to say Trump's a criminal, but so is Biden's son, and what? What is the point there? Am I responsible for my Brother's messed up life? Are you responsible for that uncle, or parent that's screwed up? No you are not, passed adulthood its on their shoulders. You get opportunities to try and help or make a difference but you know how often that changes anyone's mind, near zero.

Everything in motion changes from the point of observation, and nothing can perpetually stay in motion. We are talking physical things here, everything is moving, even if it seems still to you. This applies to every function inside your body, every physical thing you've ever seen, every physical thing in the universe small or large, every belief, dream or thought you've ever had, and every natural force you've ever experienced. Motion is the only reason you can observe the universe, otherwise, nothing would be visible. There would be no distinction present. That is why god, infinity or you are stillness, given motion to observe.