BlueOak

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  1. Several Millennia of recorded human history in dealing with crises. Countless thousands of virus and disease outbreaks before it. Most dangerous situations the public are exposed to. If you give me a more specific question I'll answer it with a more specific answer. Is the question, why does controlling the information given to the public in a crisis or even dangerous situation save lives? I can also focus it specifically on disease or virus outbreaks if that's more useful.
  2. Sadly not. Development, culture, environment, experiences, etc. While it's true Ethics often refers to a community, communities can be just a few hundred people. You'll always waste your time arguing ethics with individuals. Unless they are showing some openness to listening to you. Their ethics are their ethics, and yours are yours, so the premise is going to be different depending on who is surrounding them to reinforce these ethics or which communities they are a part of. I just appeal directly to their security, safety, and financial motivations; usually because its far more effective, and only when they ask. Example: I've formulated vegan arguments when people ask me why I am a vegan, that tell them directly why they are worse off financially because we have so much land diverted to cows and sheep, in a county where nobody can afford land or rates. Nobody has anything much to say apart from nodding their head.
  3. Very necessary with the amount of online ego pumping going on in Gen Z, its worse than 80's materialism in many aspects. Their identities are paper thin for many, which 'may' encourage a jump in consciousness after the identity collapses. I should say any ID based on image requiring feedback from another (part of you) is prone to some form of collapse.
  4. The fundamental disagreement lies in the fact that many people have embraced a fascist conspiracy theory that downplays the seriousness of the pandemic. Because they didn't, and some still don't, see it as a crisis, they believe the censorship wasn't justified. From that perspective, I can understand their view. I could point to the death toll, but they would likely dismiss it as part of the conspiracy, perpetuating an endless cycle of circular reasoning looking at the (self) only. This illustrates a core issue with fascism: the use of conspiracy to selectively accept or reject facts. While everyone does this to some extent, conspiracy thinking leads us into delusional mindsets, where we actively rewrite reality to fit our own (self) agendas, strictly ignoring any feedback from the world that contradicts our beliefs. This feedback can usually keep us grounded if we are not surrounded by people sharing the conspiratorial mindset! Both of America's political parties align with capitalism and authoritarianism, and as long as this continues, fascist themes like conspiracy will keep resurfacing in politics. The Republicans are currently deeper into these fantasy narratives, though a small shift away from them seems to be happening now.
  5. Good. Saved a lot of lives. People didn't act quickly enough, I lost an uncle, but I am glad that is the only person I lost. Panic had to be contained in a crisis situation. Uncertainty on fundamentals like health, food, water, security, and power have to regulated on a standard day, let alone when a crisis is occurring. Understanding this, I like the boundaries to be tested and my bias is to hear all views, but when large amounts of people are dying and nobody knows what is occurring, information has to be tight and to the point. Wars, Diseases, Natural disasters etc all operate under different rules. People prioritizing free speech in a crisis is irresponsible and dangerous. Now we can talk about how people overuse security to spy and monitor the public to insane degrees and censor things like the words 'political compass' on YouTube, I'm all for that discussion, but pick your battles because this one isn't helpful.
  6. Fascist Theme and Principles: Conspiracy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism Further Reading: Purchasable Reseach Study: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1600910X.2023.2252192 Quote: Recent decades have seen are surgence in the use of conspiracy theories by populist and autocratic political figures. This has sat alongside a renewed interest in using insights from Frankfurt School thinkers to open critical perspectives on fascist uses of conspiracy theories. This paper builds on resurgent interest in the work of Franz Neumann, and directs attention to the political manipulation of alienation and anxiety. Building on Neumann’s insistence that a falsely concrete theory of history is in operation wherever conspiracy theories resonate politically, this paper argues for the neglected centrality of conspiracy thinking in nearly all instances of fascist politics. Conspiracy theories are a structural feature of fascism – a hypothesis that invites empirical testing to see if it might better fit the overall pattern. Neumann’s political critical theory also returns our attention to the possibility of an antifascist critical theory with the political at the centre of its concerns, opening lines of inquiry that complement Adorno’s insights into domination of the administered world and the culture industry. Free Article: https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/hot-thought/202201/fascism-thrives-misinformation Quote: Fascists use misinformation about history, identity, leaders, conspiracies, and destiny to gain and retain power. Democracy requires replacing misinformation by real information by using critical thinking, motivational interviewing, and political action. ---- Now my ego is curious: Why is it a surprise to people that a country of millions has a large and well-established hierarchy of power that is shared by more than five people? Would it be nice if we elected more of that hierarchy yes and no. It would lead to larger instability in the transitions but reflect society more. (All its downsides and upsides) Would it be nice if money was removed from power, yes but how your life functioned from the moment you got up in the morning to the moment you slept would reflect society more, all its extremes good and bad. For this to be the case, large-scale resistance to larger changes, and more frequent changes would need to be addressed. No more moaning about the day-to-day details of your life, because you'll get larger shifts to deal with. I question how economies would function, but they do seem to change faster now, even if the people in them don't adapt as fast as they do.
  7. Word games or altering meanings of words are not very helpful because you live on a planet where the majority decides how to communicate. Tomorrow she might not reject you, or tomorrow you'll speak to five girls and find you had fun and didn't care about today. Where I agree with everyone above, is that you decide what rejection means to you. Also, I wouldn't have assumed she rejected a romantic advance with a hand gesture about her exam? If you'd have got into a conversation, and then asked her out directly, then she'd have said no, that would be a rejection. Then it's on to the next girl. Today she might have just really not wanted to talk about the exam or was busy. I've found I can see very quickly if most women are interested in me, they usually decide fairly fast, so don't waste time and just ask.
  8. I am not sure if I can do philosophical, just practical. As i've been in that place many times, more so in my earlier years, I'll share a few thoughts. I'll start with why someone might choose it and hopefully do so tactfully so the mods don't have to close this. As I've commented I've experienced emotional pain to the level of a broken rib, as if it were all over the body. I've had more physical pain than a broken rib, so I know more pain exists but if you were to want a scale. If you imagine the pain of breaking a rib, and then have that like a wave over you for a day, a week, or more. I am sure perhaps others have been in worse shape than me; I'm still here after all. So now picture that broken rib is either being avoided, shamed, run from, fought against, whatever and it's generating a lot of chaos, and resistance in your life. Sometimes it's all you can think about, multiple states come up that cause you to suffer most of the day, and this is for someone who is functioning, let alone someone who is bed or chair-bound. If you don't reach acceptance in life: Does the gamble become more attractive? Yes, it does. After the fallout of decades of that, or years of it it takes a toll on the body/mind/life, does that help you understand? I've saved this next bit so it can be ignored depending on experiences: Part of me wants to comment on reincarnation, past lives, and cycles that repeat. There is no guarantee that you will pick a better outcome next time if you've got unresolved issues in your life this time. As you are everything, the pain, suffering, denial, shame etc, that's still you, and running away from it won't help live in (not just with but in) that part of yourself. That requires an understanding or experience of past lives to accept, and also a lot of courage to face and heal and accept. It also benefits from a method such as the completion process, and preferably understanding that the emotional pain is causing physical symptoms on the body both directly or indirectly.
  9. And win. Very relatable. This reflection of you that you've generated wants to say that it sounds like an incredible journey and shake your hand. Good For-tune.
  10. I didn't watch the video as I have little time these days. These groups started off with teenagers, they had a lot of investment and passion about their beliefs in a concentrated echo chamber. A few of the masses got older, got money, and used it.
  11. Have you put into Chat GPT. Taking into account: Your interests. Things that inspire you. Your hates. Be as specific as you can with each. Then ask it for 20 business ideas based on the above information. I did this in one message to it. Then the following in different messages: Afterwards ask it to list these 20 ideas in order of the costs required to start them up. Then when you have a few, ask it for some product ideas for these businesses you've picked etc. Ask it for ideas how to source these items or their materials cheaper. That's how I got onto my current business idea, I improved it myself afterward but it was a good catalyst.
  12. Welcome. Yes, my experiences. I could have put that together more concisely, I was tired when I wrote that I don't use psychedelics. I have no need of them. As a metaphor: If I were to wet a piece of paper through meditation or merely observe what I am showing myself day to day, then soaking the paper in water through psychedelics is not going to show me much more, it'll still be showing me what I need to see. They can help show the most fundamental truths because they are showing things such as: that there is nothing in reality directly but the experience itself. Experience is reality, and as I've said you not only represent your experience to yourself but directly cause it. I understand people know more than me about substances and can probably use them productively, this is just a personal choice to avoid them. When you understand all of reality you experience is you. Then you'll understand some of the reflections you are seeing of yourself better, and be in a more allowing/accepting state, which is a far more harmonious state to live most of life in. Spiral dynamics, for me, is the logical side of human development, whereas one of the various emotional scale models would be the emotional one. Though given the nature of emotions, its hard to find a specific emotional scale I can logically point to that I find most useful over the others. Google emotional scale or conscious scale for a reference. Who is to say what is true? You. I can't pull any strings in your mind, this is your reality you are giving meaning to. You can have any reaction you like to these words, and it'll be your reaction that you put there. Everything is a biased decision or distinction because you are deciding it all. The moment you write 'I think', well that's you. I'd like to go back to infinite love, there is truly nothing in this world like it. I feel this is a step there, but from the logical side of the paradigm, the emotional one I am actually quite far down on. Though I do reflect acceptance more often now which is nice.
  13. What would be three preferred ways for you to design or structure a stage turquoise reincarnation in your next life, if that was your main goal?
  14. @Nivsch Sure. Everything you experience is you. You generate all of it. Not on a 'self' 1 to 1 logical I do this so I get this, or I want this so I get this. All the people, all the experiences—everything is you. This means you lose the self more and realise infinity more. Realising this may be different for you, as you have indicated in your last post to me. Steps before total realisation might be: 1) Your thoughts/decisions/actions create the future. Creating a pattern of events. (This pattern, like you, is infinite) 2) Everything is subjective. 3) The above two lines mean that you define and create your experience. 4) You react to your own decisions and emotions that you have decided or are having. 5) This means you represent reality entirely to yourself. 6) There is no reality but what you put there. All there is, is this experience. 7) Your emotions, actions, and decisions will shape you. And you are all that you experience. 8) Your emotions will change the actual reality that you generate, because it's you. 9) The more you are the infinite and accept it, not an illusionary self. Then the more you are infinity. You can see it play out in discussions, like here. I am reasoning partially from the self and partially from the infinite. You can see some posters using the absolute or infinite, and some reasoning more from the self. 10) I would say allowance and acceptance here is what I've been working on for several years, allowance and acceptance of myself was probably a lifelong process. ('Self' being both this personality and the wider reality that is me) Obviously, I am repeating things slightly here for clarification, but that's an example of everything folding into itself over time, where the details of how don't matter so much. A simple example would be a task you have to concentrate on at first, and then over time you find a simpler pattern of doing it. Of course, these steps are incomplete because I am still here talking to you ;). Well I am not 'here', because there is no 'here'. There's an experience.
  15. It wasn't the quality of life I was talking about, just the result. I had a pretty poor first 25-35 years of this one, Why? Absolute Answer: | | Transition | Put something in here | Self Answer: Finishing a pattern. Though, as I've said, more of me wants to make this the last life than wants to do another one. Self-experience is realisation yes. The integration of the external to become the internal is a full step. That's how we realize we are whole. Well put. Thanks all.
  16. To achieve the objective of the thread without going through 10 more reincarnations.
  17. From the absolute perspective, yes. Yes there is nowhere to go. However, you could describe a place you are sitting or standing right now. So what we are talking about is the illusion of reincarnation, into the illusion of a human life. I understand this, but both of us chose it this time around Do you think it's horrible because it's so far out of alignment with the norm?
  18. Events and patterns are constantly cycled for the self yes, with different appearances but the same meanings. My own events probably won't help you as they are lines through patterns of multiple lifetimes that made sense to me. For example, I had the past life experience of a ceremony at a circular stone temple laid out like a small open arena, in the front, the priest was performing a ceremony with fire to enchant the crowd. A few days later I found myself at an electronic show that a friend invited me to, we stood at a small circular stage, and it on was a man performing tricks with simulated holographic fire. I drew multiple meanings from this, but they were personal to my life at the time. I had several others experiences also that lined up with things I needed to see in life. Alongside repeating events, I gave myself historic dates that I could check when things happened. This was enough for me, added to my own methods of communicating directly with infinity for confimation, and prior to all of this the spiritual adepts that I came to respect. You may need other experiences or things to confirm your own inquiries, this was personally tailored to me, as all life is. I understand your intimation of constant change, and that we die every time we sleep. I feel this is overstated, but I do agree from the infinite perspective. As infinity is never a broken chain, it is constant. You might say: there is no past, no death, no life to begin with. However, I am describing patterns, and cycles from the perspective of the self, which are the only words I have to use. This is again coming to down to the two halves of the human experience, the infinite and the self.
  19. I appreciate this, as well as being in an allowing state, acceptance is a good starting point on the emotional scale also. There would still have to be designed stages of development into the incarnation, but these are potentially improved or streamlined each lifetime because the pattern is simpler each time. @Keryo Koffa Yeah I've wanted to be in the pure realm of the mind for most of this life, with flashes of physicality to alter quickly as my reality does. I appreciate you posting these ideas up, thank you. This is my last life, but this was an interesting thought experiment. If I did this, I would be adding meaning to a void. Do past life regression hypnosis, you can do it to yourself if you wish. I gave myself events that mirrored things happening right now, so I would not doubt their authenticity. If you want to reincarnate effectively, you need to do it effectively.
  20. Thanks for the answers. All there is is a blank space, and we fill it. There is no end because there was no start. There is nothing, just what you put there. We can put a life there, and we have done several billion times right now. If anything, we are overcrowded! You are alive right now, what are you gonna do? Keep surviving. Keep learning. Keep growing. Fail a lot, Keep going. What I usually do. How do I know reincarnation is true? Teachings of Adepts, personal experience and ultimately asking the larger me. How do I know I'll be a human in the next one? I'm probably not going to be. That's why I've decided before now and why i've generated these replies. There is a small part of me still wondering. Does Turquoise exist? Is it a valid model? Is it something I want? Why waiting for it? I find the model useful when paired with an emotional scale also. We are what we are in the moment. I can't make you a millionaire, happily married, or enlightened by clicking my fingers. It's a process. It's obvious you're constructing a castle out of thin air. Get to your roots and foundation, question yourself Everything is a castle in the air. While I appreciate your questions. You are showing me your own resistance here. Question your own bias as to how anything is 'obvious' about a reflection of yourself that you also generated to interact with. Do you think you have a habit of attracting obvious conversations or interactions? If so why? Questions answer and shape the outcome of reality. I have some, but its like a dab of watercolor on a painting, I usually default to yellow. When I am around collectives who are spiritual, yes, because it becomes a collective experience more easily. Thank you for helping me answer my question that makes sense.
  21. So you'd structure a life that started in a philosophical or spiritual family who had those discussions. In any particular country or setting? You don't go anywhere There is no 'where'. *I should add I realise all stages are required, but I'm looking for ideas if I do go around again, to achieve or encourage the main goal.
  22. Here are two or three: https://www.getleo.ai/About https://brave.com/leo/ https://iamleo.ai/ - This may just be a portal to one of the others.
  23. You pick your focus much of the time. It's a current you can direct. Somedays it's external (which is still you). You had a large influence on the circumstance you are currently in, and the internal parts of you come up in the external, so as you alter yourself you alter the reality around you. I realise we are all in patterns but we alter them all the time.
  24. No mind to me means no thoughts. Your infinite half. If you are in a boring or simple job, you can live in no mind by default for most of the hours. It's not difficult if you meditate. Gardening is great for this, but so is shelf stacking or cleaning up, for example. I live in no mind a lot of the time outside of work. There is a space, and then you feel the thoughts outside of that space, or just as flashes. Then some days you have a busy mind where there is no space, and you just shrug and indulge for a while until they settle. This morning I had a busy mind as my business idea is in its full planning stage (I really enjoy this time). I imagine this business will require a lot of thought programming hardware routes and learning a completely new skill, but then when its done and its automatic, they'll just be reminders to myself and more downtime. When I was working at the post office it required a hard mind, everything was focused and double-checked. There weren't many thoughts, but there was an intense focus on getting the amounts and procedures right when handling lots of money. When you said in the other thread it's thought battling thought, I felt like saying, yeah that's all it usually is. Ditto for a busy mind often.