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BlueOak replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Oh I am behind the times: This is the second attack on an ICE facility in Texas alone. And the mainstream is reporting it as a safety concern only, no reasoning as to why. I swear I am just sitting down writing a script for this. We all construct our realities has never been so clear to me. -
BlueOak replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Here is a likely scenario: at some point, i'll predict the right's response, and the liberal's response. 1) Shootout with a migrant. - Likely given ICE being white supremacists, they are going after families with their guns out. Also Medicare has been cut to put 15 million people into severe debt, and in some cases, death, if they are the correct skin color for propaganda purposes that will play out also. or 2) Foreign agent terrorist attack—less likely but the same result, possible because of international tensions and how much instability it would bring in your country right now. You are a tinderbox with people wanting an excuse. The Right will have the resources, manpower and political capital to really ramp this up. People will be questioning whether they are correct. The center will need to find a status quo between public outrage and stability. Liberals will say we don't need to be blaming people not involved, but we need to protect ourselves. Effectively bolstering the center and calming the populace. All the while, nobody will understand or report that they caused this issue by taking the approach they are, except a few left channels and maybe a late night talk show. You might say this is hyperbole, its just the numbers. If they are intent on deporting ten million people (more if they are intent on deporting citizens too) someone will fight back effectively at some point. -
BlueOak replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
1) That's simple. Target democratic states. 2) Check their political history. - As a country you are one step away from this, and already deporting people critical of Israel, for example, or refusing entry for making silly political memes. Fascists are generally not the most intelligent people, because they just buy into the ideology for vibes, short-term self-interest, ignorance etc. There are exceptions, of course. So perhaps it is just going to be blanket deportations but I tend to doubt it. I think what you'll see is conservative farming states for example, not being targeted as much because of their pushback, and metropolitan democratic cities getting hit hard. -
The real cause of human problems are humans, nothing more or less. Your reality may be totalitarian. I experience very little totalitarianism. Unless you mean a different word. Definition: Of, relating to, being, or imposing a form of government in which the political authority exercises absolute and centralized control over all aspects of life, the individual is subordinated to the state, and opposing political and cultural expression is suppressed. A system of government where the people have virtually no authority and the state wields absolute control of every aspect of the country, socially, financially and politically. Characterized by a government in which the political authority exercises absolute and centralized control --- Very little of my reality do I have no control over. A certain amount of my life the state controls or dictates, the same as gravity, time, etc, but even these are malleable; the perception of time, especially, is speeding up, and perception is all that matters to humans. In fact there is a good case that human perception creates definitions, and those definitions are what we build our structure of reality upon. More of life is relating to each other and interconnecting, becoming more efficient; more happens in a smaller space of time, hence the perception. The reason I bring this up is that accountability for our actions, right now especially, is paramount to creating a stable world. I am responsible in its entirety for the creation and course of my life.
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This is a few days after: The Russian Duma has said war with Europe is inevitable. This is still politicking, of course, but I don't think it's been officially said before now. Other than through their overly dramatic, state TV network.
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BlueOak replied to Apparition of Jack's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Only because America has a pseudo third party now, and Elon will hit him with it a few times. If Elon partners with the Libertarian Party, he'll do quite well. That's an 'if' though. Because he'll have money and enough populist support to make it work. Then maybe the socialists we'll realise four parties are useful, and you'll get more options, more perspectives, better conversations and more stability as a result. -
BlueOak replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
After decades of people telling me it isn't possible, is it? -
She makes the case that more farms will be impacted now than earlier in the year, as the supply chains further up suffer. If you think pride is low now, wait a year for this to fully cycle.
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BlueOak replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@Hardkill They won't pay as much of a price, because they are intentionally deporting Democratic voters, and potential democratic voters. This is part of their calculation in going after brown and Black people, taking out their political opponents. Rule 101 of the fascist playbook. -
It all reminds me of Brexit. The older generation of Russia messing with Russia's legacy, just like happened in England, its this resurgent extreme oldschool nationalism in a modern world. And in part, I still blame the misguided need for masculinity to be expressed outwardly instead of being based on internal order and discipline. A generational lack of fathering. People must 'reclaim' their identity from the world, rather than just build it up internally. Down with Europe Down with the US Down with China Down with Russia etc etc etc. Just like the men that need to reclaim something from women, or focus on them to get it back, complete waste of their time.
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@PurpleTree Interesting, its touching on cutting finances too, or financial and military aid. He's already accepted losses of influence in the Caucasus, but I think Putin's ego won't allow territory to be lost, so he'd give up Ukrainian pushes or even gains to stop losses elsewhere; that's my calculation. He's an imperialist, or at least that's what his hardcore supporters have been led to believe and support; loss of territory would be like losing an arm. Finally, Putin has to break one of his lies about Russia's economy being strong. Ignore the hyperbolic headline of 47 days, its talking about him admitting part of his financial situation, which has been true for several years, nobodies economy grows in wartime, beyond things like the war industry, which is spending money out of the economy in things like missiles, not putting it back in. (or selling it to someone else). I do agree with your video that Chinese influence is replacing Russia. That's been true inside Russian industries too. As I said at the start, Putin's regional Russian Empire is being replaced by China's actual superpower status, and this has been accelerated. No matter the public outward look, that's what's going on practically.
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Yes. This was the critical thing I was at pains to highlight when republicans backed Trump against the courts. The resulting instability is now inherent all throughout American society because the courts themselves lost some legitimacy. Its the same thing with the supreme courts. I understand it is what fascists do, they transfer power to the leader from instutitions like the courts and the people themselves, but the resulting instability is self-evident in things like the national guard vs the population but it's more practically a problem in things like others ignoring court orders as a result. The increasing number of sovereign citizens rewriting their own laws as an example. Someone here may laugh at that, but when they pull a gun and start a shootout, nobody finds it funny. Even if you don't support him, when the leader of a country defies the courts and calls them corrupt, that subconsciously and often consciously sinks in to the population that identifies with the country.
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I don't know. My gut says all countries will test Russia's control if they feel suppressed, and that Russia is weak enough now, but war seems a misstep from Azerbaijan that I do not believe they would make. Though the analysis that both Israel and Turkey would support them for different geopolitical reasons makes me consider it. Further as Iran considers them more of a threat these days, and they too are allied with Russia. Finally, the geographic trade centralisation, like Turkey, gives it more power and prominence either way.
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BlueOak replied to Shawn Philips's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
For the top 50 countries on this list, yes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_capita For the botton 50 absolutely not, the others we could argue about. I mean there are other factors certainly, levels of garbage generated per person for example, which I couldn't find statistics on at a glance, but obviously will be higher in developed countries. Perhaps in a fair and balanced global system, I would also consider how much other countries are using the natural resources many of these countries sell, but it would only be a factor in that consideration; the main point still stands. High Emissions and High levels of garbage should allow for immigrants from those countries that have been adversely affected, because the top 50 here are benefiting from the damage they cause. -
I will be using Wikipedia's definition of fascist principles and be happy to argue them on any post I make. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism I will try to condense my America is run by fascists into this thread, where appropriate, and also add from time to time European or sliding democracy examples of fascism if and when they occur or I am alerted to them. The courts are overridden. This is what fascist do. Below, arresting the political competition. This is what fascist do. Same below, and he did identify himself. He is responsible for immigration oversight. Tourists are barred for political reasons. Fascist Trump Nuclear Threats: Outside of WW2 I have never seen a non-fascist state do this. https://metro.co.uk/2025/06/23/trump-threatens-unleash-most-lethal-weapons-ever-built-russia-gives-iran-nukes-23487263/ Firing pepper balls into a car with a kid and an infant in it, I example this being reported as normal. This is what fascists do: normalise this level of suppression and violence. Using the army against political protest: Fascist.
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If I were to remove my bias entirely. Just get some strong voices in there. Anyone who stands up to what's going on, they can have any political ideology. Get them on camera showing their emotion, showing the passion for their position.
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Depends if you want to lose again or not. If you do want to lose, stick with the status quo, non-populist approach. This does terribly in a time when people are economically suffering and want a change candidate. Remember Obama CHANGE, he used to say that every 5 seconds - Now you could brand yourself as a change to Trump, seeing as he's a raving authoritarian lunatic but it's not as powerful, as the anti-Trump message just won't land with a lot of people currently. If no you want to win and break the status quo, then you have an issue of actually swinging the pendulum left again. You've been heading right for 20 years, so its about time. It does come with some instability itself, but it's popular. If the economy starts doing well, then the change candidate doesn't work as well. In a fascist state however, the left tends to be more popular, which is what Kyle highlights.
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Multiparty systems where I live do not suffer from the same degree of polarisations or succumb to authoritarian influence as easily, because either someone just starts a new party or one of the existing ones rises up. The upheaval comes because authoritarian values are being forced upon a population that doesn't want them and worse has a lot of minorities that require representationn. The dual system in America alongside its corporate nature, is vulnerable to one party being bought out. The horrific thing is, America is forced to do not only a regime change but also start deporting people to fit this new authoritarian mold. So no I won't be appreciating this change any time soon. We've lost an ally, and i've seen a country I once respected slide back 50 years.
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I'll go with the data on this one. It's better than my own personal experience or yours. America is sliding more into suppression and racism, yes. People are self-interested, yes, and a percentage are racist to achieve it. The difference again is in a democracy, the minorities by necessity and design are represented, while in an autocracy, it's entirely optional and often designed to suppress them. Racism doesn't evaporate, but it is addressed by design. What an individual sees himself as, I have no control over. I only have control over my own perception. We use labels as a means of identifying something for the purposes of conversation and cooperation. I could list the themes of fascism and links for them, but as you don't like links, labels, or examples, we cannot have a common ground. We might as well be yelling random words at each other. That's why common definitions and labels exist.
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Disabled protesters were zip-tied in the capital, protesting their medical aid being cut. Comical fascism-level of suppression this. Utterly nonsensical. *Something we see fairly often he says. - Well in that case he lives in a cartoon. I have never in my 40+ years of life seen a disabled protester be handcuffed by police, anywhere. But this is normalized now in the states, and its why I picked a random news network, not Kyle's original video.
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Oh and your examples of 'propaganda' are belief systems which differ from yours. Reinforced by the society, education, institutions, etc, of those countries. Ditto every country on earth.
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Animal Same Sex Statistics and percentage examples https://www.thoughtco.com/homosexuality-in-animals-4164365 https://blog.animalogic.ca/wild/why-do-some-animals-exhibit-homosexual-behaviour - Along with some extended reasoning of why. I'd say 15% is the extreme certainly, but in my opinion it largely depends on the acceptance of homosexuality as to how honest people are: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_sexual_orientation 15% in San Francisco for example, where it is widely accepted. This rise in homosexuality that people talk about is down to two things. The natural drives of the species over generations, food/available mates, and the ability to be honest safely. More democratic countries strive for equality; they have to because that's how their governments remain legitimised, which requires the inclusion of many minorities for stability https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/democracy-index-eiu After Trump's recent policies, i'd put America further down this list above. Into a more authoritarian rating. Directly related to their treatment of minorities. Black people are still a minority in America, not a small one granted. 14.4% according to this: https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and-ethnicity/fact-sheet/facts-about-the-us-black-population/ No country is a perfect democracy, certainly, and America has been sliding into fascism for many years now. They do not treat brown people like 'animals' in England. There is certainly racism, but the push for equality and/or meritocracy is what sets these countries apart. The very fact we are talking about the pushback against racism or gender inequality in democracies is the point I am making. It exists; I can point to examples of it on mass. Whereas in authoritarian regimes, this is much more suppressed. You are welcome to your opinion on authoritarian countries. Every example I see of them is horrific. They've done nothing these last years but reinforce this belief.
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Part of my hatred toward the current state of the world is the autocracies are trying to do what America did to them, impose their own values over countries which are not them. Regime change in reverse. I hated America for doing it. I hate Israel now for doing it. I hate China, Russia and BRICS generally for doing it.
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Where on earth have I said any of that? Uncharacteristically, I've said very little in these posts so far. 1, I loathe the term: 'The West' on a personal level, even more so in this context, as laws are specific to each country and often region within those countries. I use the term 'the west' as others like to, and it saves time. However, you are twice wrong here, as there are international laws on human rights, but I digress. 2, As I am not sure how you intend to prove or disprove the superiority of a person, and frankly don't want to find out. Let's look at the superiority of a law instead, if you want to go down that road. I didn't, I was merely stating you were wrong, but let's take a minute. Given laws are based upon the populations they apply to, and enforced by the state which governs them, they have to best represent that population, while being actionable by the state. In as in as much as a law can be considered superior to another law from a different country, those are the metrics i'd use. Your assumption that 0.1% of the population is gay is simply untrue. Generally, the level of homosexuality in a population of mammals naturally rises and falls with the availability of breeding partners and level of food, while we can and do override nature in many ways, what I am implying is its dynamic. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/lgbtq-population-by-country You are looking anywhere from 5-15%, which is within norms to my understanding, though I can cite specific scientific examples if we need more clarity. So these laws you are referring to need to account for 5-15% of the population, and in western countries that lean toward equality, or at least meritocracy, rather than hierarchy, the laws are naturally structured to better fit minority inclusion. In an autocracy, laws on equality and human rights are diminished as individual people matter less, their vote or opinion matters less, the stability of those countries is reinforced by having less equality, and suppression is very high, whereas in a democracy, it's the opposite.
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This was teals take on it: I also want to say here that she dispels my main assumption that people could be in a world war but not know it.