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I say it the opposite way. If you really like America then leave because it's not as advertised Carry on

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No. I meant yours exclusively. Of course every society does but yours is like on a whole other level. Not to be compared But there will be terrorist attacks every now and then. Which is why your country had the war on terror and anytime somebody went to the airport they feared for their life when they saw a guy with a beard It doesn't have to. Your own government is against you. And corporations own your politicians. You may be better off with a foreign government toppling your own Which is funny to say because the US government created the Gaza situation. How can you trust they won't do the same to you one day? You trust the serial killer who murdered every one on the street besides you? Your safe unless you walk into a public school that is They can still use economic warfare on you Good. Im happy for you. But this isn't what I meant when I said the west robs you of basic things. I was talking more about values and ways of life that westerners are severely missing out on The top 0.001 percent of people in your country completely surpass you in terms of having an exceptional life. Remember feudalism If you don't like it. Leave. There are Germans that saw Nazism coming and left before things went really wrong

Well don't torture yourself too much. I was only positioning the question back the way you said. You said you were coming from a place of privilege which is sort of a western supremacy mentality In truth. You are just as much a victim of the west as people outside the west. Because the west stole a lot from you that you don't even know is basic to other cultures and societies The whole thing is sad. I think the end of it all is coming soon though so we will see if my prediction is right and shifts are coming

Another response to the earlier Jordan Peterson video I posted Too much truth for Westerners to grapple with. It's not easy to know that your entire society is a lie and other societies are not as hungry for power, wealth, or advancement and are actually quite content. It's not easy to admit that you have been completely mislead and you are wrong. But it could be very rewarding. Awakening is always nice after you puke out the garbage

@Emerald You said development like ten times. You make it seem like it's just something that happens rather than choices your society makes. But we tell you all the faults, pitfalls, mistakes, and misunderstandings of your society and you deny them. Or you will accept them but still point the finger at others which gives allowance to what your society is doing to them. Or you will accept them but still make no effort to change your society. Why would you live in a society that benefits off the cold blooded murder of someone else? It's like zionism where the Jews are literally taking the place of someone that has more right to be there and are suffering instead when they could just leave and give the place back to the Palestinians and then the problem would be solved just like that. It's not complicated So you will just take food from another woman's child's mouth and put it directly in your child's mouth and you WILL feel bad about it but you WONT stop. Yet you judge say Middle Easterners for belonging to a society which wrongs women (maybe extreme cases but definitely not the overall society) and you wonder why they don't just move to the West where women are treated the way you think is best for them Why should they suffer for you? What are you personally doing to benefit the world. I know you didn't make the iPhone yourself. You make it seem like you have no agency and you are so unlucky because of the fact that you are lucky to be privileged

Meh, I'd rather die in Gaza proudly than be a zionist shooting a child in the head. Dignity

Your perspective is not insensitive it is just wrong. You said it yourself. Men are not more correct about women who are on the chopping block. So how would you be more correct about the oppressed who are on the chopping block? Or are you just saying you can't stand it when they think they are more correct? Who knows more about your society than the people who have been on the receiving end of the open air brutality? What would your society know about its sickness? It hides it. It lies to its own citizens to pay for and fight in the brutality. It isn't out in the open or else it wouldn't work. You only find out about it decades later and you go back and say "ohhhh so thats why they flew planes into our buildings or bombed this public space" and then you still don't change the next time the propaganda machine does the same exact tactic and we warn you ahead of time When you guys say that Russia/India/China is abusing its own people. And that it is necessary to go to war with them. It scares the shit out of me because thats what was said about my people before the Americans invaded. And when they say that they have women's rights violations. That was also what was said about my people. Then they say they have no freedom of press so Russians cant even speak out on true horrors. That was also said about my people. We were fine before and now after American so called liberation everything is fucked. I feel like propaganda always comes a decade or two before the invasions. You guys need to look within your own societies for all these messed up problems and stop projecting it outwards

You gotta think bigger PurpleTree. It's the company you keep. You think we are blaming you directly for all the problems

You guys on the forum are fine. Typical Westerners. But whatever you do. Do not let yourselves turn into future Jordan Petersons. This level of blindness and arrogance is what the West will make you (regardless of other societies problems) if you allow it to! You can't be actualized like this. No way. Jordan Peterson is the perfect representation of final boss level West (let's call it shadow west for now) and no matter how smart or developed you are you can be severely immature in your thinking

All this BS will go out the window once it's your country in the oppressed position. Then you will ask "Why can't we have the flower without the dirt in 2025". You will see how nonsensical it all is

Who cares if they grant those rights to their citizens while denying them to other nations citizens that they have no place interfering in Too much propaganda. In the Western mind this is how they see the rest of the world. If you go to Russia today there will be town squares with slaves in chains at the stage and people buying and selling them with paperwork. In Saudi Arabia the women will be locked in cages on a cart with wheels with a man pulling at it on the sidewalk. In China as soon as a Chinese person sneezes some van will speed over, throw him in, and drive away. In India you can turn on the TV and there is a sport called raping women Meanwhile in America so many people are incarcerated, there are school shootings all the time, people are depressed and neurotic, families are breaking up, police are dying, addicts are overdosing, the wealth gap is getting larger, people can't afford basic things or homes (in the richest country), the food is poison, everyone is suing everyone, people don't even know who their neighbors are let alone would be willing to help them, people are isolated and atomized...I don't know. I just don't get it So why is it so hard for the USA/Israel to stop colonizing Palestine in 2025 and deny them their rights? It seems like they just can't help it. Like they can't fight the urge to stop doing it. Even if it means damaging themselves. It seems from the outside that it is who they are regardless of any lies they say about not wanting to do

So why not invent all these great things for the world WITHOUT the massacres and colonizing of entire peoples who suffer for half to full centuries?

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Aren't they the original vikings? Meaning all they knew how to do was rape, pillage, and build boats?

But you make it seem like the West created values such as human rights or freedom. As if ancient societies just didn't know human rights existed. But the West are the biggest violators of these rights

If you read Western history vs Eastern the Western always sounds more fucked up More people in the world today hate Americans more than Russians because more have felt the boot of America Why does the West still use toilet paper vs bidets

I agree with that but just choose your elites wisely. But let's be honest whether in democracy or monarchy you can't choose your elites. Or else people would be happy with their rulers

How do we know if they will use those weapons in the same way? Maybe they just want it for defense against those who use weapons as a way to develop their society. Rather than developing through peaceful means The two biggest arsenals of atomic weapons are USA and Russia and USA used two and Russia used zero

You think hunting people for sport is something to scoff at? So we should never call out the crimes and let western society just run amok?

Im not jealous. I would never want to be a Westerner. It is not a gift like you think it is. You will forever be corrupted and your mind is skewed

Your point is blindness You still think the West is better even though you know all the crimes it has committed

In what ways did the West develop on their own?...if we don't count all theft from stealing entire continents, enslaving people, stealing wealth for centuries from Africa, Asia, South America, and whatever economic manipulation still goes on today Didn't the British steal tens of trillions from India alone. That is all wealth taken away from one place and given to another and that is just one of many many chess moves I know the West will have a crazy invention every now and then but just because one man Steve Jobs or two men the Wright brothers are born in the west by random doesn't mean the West develops on their own

The West themselves say they are superior due to higher development. They call the places they colonized savage and that it's better off after their genocide because they developed roads They say their values are better and therefore need to be spread at all cost It's an excuse to go to war Somehow it goes from this to "we are a good force". And anytime they are not good they will blame some outside force or just gaslight

Congratulations. You have received the benefits of colonization and none of the damages of being colonized. Must be nice. What's your point?