Tyler Durden

Usually we turn off the lights, get into bed, close our eyes and after some time fall asleep and start dreaming. But what does exactly happen at that moment which causes the switch from waking dream to nightime dream? Science explains everything with brain activity but I'm interested in spiritual perspective on this matter.

Yes, I was just thinking about that recently. Many times I don't see my body in waking life, I just have the body sensations but that's not the same. Those moment are ideal to switch my true identification from the body to the world around me. I first become concious of that fact after reading about quantum mechanics but I guess it's also true from the spiritual perspective.

@Judy2 So I'm basically closer to my True Self when I'm asleep then awake.

@JuliusCaesar Thanks for the explanation. I'm still wondering about some details. When we fall asleep, does our physical body disappears from the existence along with the entire waking reality and then reappears when we wake up?

@Leo Gura But why the need for sleep then? Why not be awake all the time?

Life is dreamlike because in both cases conciousness creates everything. Everbody is you and you're talking with yourself all the time.

Is it ok to keep on living a regular human life after awakening? Do I have an obligation to spread the Truth? I know that everyone is actually me but sometimes I feel bad seeing them being asleep. Should I just pretend that everything is as it is or do something about that?

Thanks for the clarification. Or should I thank God for that? ?

@Terell Kirby Yes, I understand. If others are illusion, then obligation to them is also something that my ego imagines in order to survive in a society.

Maybe the main reason you imagined other people is to feel less lonely so you naturally tend to socialise with them to forget about that.

@Terell Kirby So you think it's futile just like talking to dream characters after you become lucid? @Nahm Yeah, I understand that's the risk so I prefer not to talk too much about that in public.

@BenG Thank you for your kind words. I was previously struggling with depression and felt that there wasn't any meaning in life. After that, those manic episodes happened and nothing was the same afterwards. I had trouble to completely understand what I've experienced and people around me thought I was going crazy. Luckily, I discovered Leo and this forum which helped me a lot to ground myself and explain what I was going through. Your suggestion of becoming awakening therapist sounds interesting. I would really like to help other people realise what God truly is but I don't want to be labeled as some lunatic.

@BenG It happened during manic episodes. People usually get that with psychedelics or meditation but I guess God wanted something different in my case. ? Yes, it was a big emotional turmoil because I was raised in religious family but always prefered science for the explanation of everything. So I made a full circle but I didn't expect that God would be me. ? I will still need one more episode to directly realise nothingness, for now I only understand it conceptualy. ?

@BenG It was a gradual process. Firstly I felt God inside me, then in other people and finally in everything. So, in the end I discovered that pantheism is closest to the Truth.

@BenG Before that I presumed that the universe was created by The Big Bang, everything was made of atoms and humans evolved from other creatures, becoming conscious in the process. I didn't leave much space for God's existence so this realisation completely changed my worldview.

@BenG I would describe it as becoming aware that everything is a God's dream and you're its avatar.

@Nahm Yes, it does but not like awakening which completely changes your view of reality.

@BenG It would be a boring life without talking with dream characters. I don't feel alone in that case.

@BenG I don't know if it makes sense. Lets say I become lucid inside a dream, would telling other dream characters that it's all a dream make any difference? I have similar doubts about this waking life.

@BenG I have no intention in genocide just raising the public awareness ? @gettoefl Yes, that definitely sounds right, awakening helps in that way.

God is nothing and everything. Only IT exists. Universe is its play/dream.

Solipsism seems to be true if we say that God is alone and not the person.

@Gregory1 Excellent trip report. I really enjoyed reading it. Very powerfull stuff. Do you feel like you shattered an illusion too soon? Will you be able to continue with your normal human life once you discovered the Truth?

Isn't Trump also God? Why would you want that to yourself? ?

When I close my eyes, everything goes dark. I know that they are imaginary but that is the effect I get. Does all of reality ceases to exist in that moment? Am I then closest to my true identity as pure conciousness?