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lol good luck bro, not sure what youre gonna get from trolling, but you wont get much from me

What did you want, outrage, anger, whats your favourite?

Saying hi to a minority yeah? What kind of reaction you looking for?

What you on about?

"Forgive them for they know not what they do" "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" Just follow those two and we're golden

I'm all for reform but this is a real knee jerk reaction

Yeah of course, a balance between socialism and capitalism is needed. Im pretty sure most governmental ideas could work if the level of consciousness is high enough. For example if capitalism was truly fair, maybe that could involve not being able to leave everything to your kids so that they dont get a crazy head start, or all education being the same high standard. The problem with capitalism is that a lot of those at the top of the tree are there because of history, what the parents and grand parents did has led to their head start. Conversely if your family wasnt so successful you are then way behind through no fault of your own, in which case you have to hope youre gifted in some way to succeed. As consciousness rises amongst everyone i think things will naturally shift to a fairer society, humans like to be competitive and thats important but we also like it to be a fair game and i think thats what democratic socialism is intending to fix, whether it works or not is another thing. From a libertarian, capitalist point of view, its not in their best interests to make the game fairer, which is why theyre fighting for the status quo. You can see some of the tactics in this thread ie making it seem its solely the minorities fault, othering them, promoting their own culture at others expense. These are all tactics and mind games really, to keep minorities where they are, another way they do this could be the welfare system that gives just enough to survive but not enough to thrive, and makes them dependent on the system and therefore continuing the status quo. I mean its so much effort to keep this going in why not just give in lol. But obviously comes down to fear that they will lose everything and that they wont have the same status in society. I will say we seem to have come further in terms of a fair society than most other large scale civilisations in history, which we are even aware of how unfair it is. These battles are really the last efforts of a dying system and we're getting to a stage where if you dont evolve you will get left behind

Well i mean its not really insane or radical, its been the definition for years, its one of the main tenants of white supremacy. It may seem insane to you if thats what you truly believe and you dont want it to be called white supremacy. Its kinda weird you can be so proud of white nationalist and white supremacy rhetoric but at the same time not want to be called one. Most people who do follow that rhetoric dont mind being called a white supremacist, maybe its just a language thing. Heres the definition from dictionary.com - the belief, theory, or doctrine that white people are inherently superior to people from all other racial and ethnic groups, especially Black people, and are therefore rightfully the dominant group in any society. Would say youve said quite a few things along those lines - I mean thats pretty squarely in the white supremacist definition, sorry to break it to you bro. As a test why dont you visit a white supremacist rhetoric page post some of your beliefs about immigrants and see if they agree with you, if they do then that would be pretty conclusive, then at least you dont have to pretend youre a yellow thinking systems thinker anymore, could be quite liberating

Its no hate from my part im just pointing out something. If you say and believe that white culture is superior to other cultures that means you have a white supremacist belief. You might not like that definition and notice i havent actually labelled you as one, but that is literally the definition. In this post youre essentially doubling down and justifying your position, youre even saying theyre the best because they got rid of slavery first, which is quite funny. So it seems like you like saying things that are white supremacist rhetoric but you dont like the label and thats fair enough, out of respect i havent called you it, but when you post on social media, here and other forums that you mentioned you will definitely get labelled a white supremacist by people. Its like a duck quacking and then saying 'no im not a duck its all brainwashing'. If you go to right wing and white nationalist forums they will agree with you completely. To @Serotoninluvs point most countries try to instil this exceptionalism idea, Americans do the pledge of allegiance and are really brainwashed to think USA is the best, i think out of the western world they are at the pinnacle of exceptionalism but most countries do it to a certain extent, so its understandable you feel as you do, so i empathise with you. Theres a lot of stuff i like about the UK, where im from but there are also many complex issues, this is the same everywhere

If youre fed up then why not fight to close the gap in all the sectors whites are benefiting unfairly such as education, then we can start to forget about racial issues or even race as a whole. As long as its unfair people will complain, i dont know how you can get around that, why should American white kids get 23 billion more for the education than black kids just because of how the system is set up?

My beliefs are irrelevant, your issue is more with the dictionary, factually youve said things that would be classed as white supremacy. - "Different forms of white supremacism put forth different conceptions of who is considered white, and different groups of white supremacists identify various racial and cultural groups as their primary enemy.[3] "youve consistently mentioned Moroccans and Erdogon as your enemy even when no one has asked "In academic usage, particularly in usage which draws on critical race theory or intersectionality, the term "white supremacy" can also refer to a political or socioeconomic system, in which white people enjoy a structural advantage (privilege) over other ethnic groups, on both a collective and individual level." Sorry bro the dictionary and Wikipedia is what it is. What would you say you are a white nationalist? Do you support the Dutch Peoples Union?

This is you saying that white culture is the best culture, in fact you say the list for why theyre so great is to long to list This is a definition of white supremacist beliefs - White supremacy is a term used to characterize various belief systems central to which are one or more of the following key tenets: 1) whites should have dominance over people of other backgrounds, especially where they may co-exist; 2) whites should live by themselves in a whites-only society; 3) white people have their own "culture" that is superior to other cultures; 4) white people are genetically superior to other people. As a full-fledged ideology, white supremacy is far more encompassing than simple racism or bigotry. Most white supremacists today further believe that the white race is in danger of extinction due to a rising “flood” of non-whites, who are controlled and manipulated by Jews, and that imminent action is need to “save” the white race. By saying you have white supremacist beliefs im making a factual statement based on your words and what you say you believe. Its not an insult or a way to dismiss you its simply what you believe. I can respect that more than if you try and paint it like you dont have these beliefs but then say a similar rhetoric.

If you are talking about me here which ill just assume you are and saying our friend is Chopra (lol), what is the truth that hes pointing to? as you say hes not articulated himself very well, so maybe you can do a better job. What underpins most of what he says is that he believes the white race to be objectively the better race, do you care to further explain this point? And also why that isnt a white supremacist line of thinking ?

So hes literally talking about refugees not immigrants, clear distinction, and hes saying that europe has a moral duty, to take them in and help them, which includes helping them have their own country. Nothing to do with not mingling

If youre gonna quote use the full context, what is the point in just using 5 words that seem to agree with your point - The Dalai Lama has sparked anger after declaring that “Europe belongs to the Europeans”. The Tibetan Buddhist spiritual leader also said that refugees should return to their native countries and assist with developing them. The 14th Dalai Lama was speaking at a conference in Malmo, Sweden which is home to a large immigrant population, according to the Business Times. “Receive them, help them, educate them ... but ultimately they should develop their own country,” the 83-year-old said, when speaking about refugees. “I think Europe belongs to the Europeans.” He was speaking in the aftermath of a divisive election in Sweden in which a far-right party, Swedish Democrats, made electoral gains, although they were beaten by the country's centre-left coalition. The Dalai Lama also said that Europe was “morally responsible” for helping “a refugee really facing danger against their life”. He also disagrees with Trumps America first policy - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/dalai-lama-trump-selfish-america-first-policy-latest-comments-immigration-trade-a7995766.html

Do you see the paradox in forcing yourself to let go? You cant get to inaction or peace from action.

1. I'd say your expecting something from the meditation and it seems like you're almost forcing yourself to do it cos you think something will come of it. Letting go means also letting go of any outcomes or expectations, this is hard as it's counter intuitive, but just know on a deeper level nothing will come from this meditation and within that there's a certain freedom. 2. There maybe anger within you and so if you are letting go even a little this anger is flowing out of you. It could be because of a resistance to an emotion you don't like. Either way just try and observe these emotions and let them pass. People think this easy work it is probably the most difficult thing you'll do

Cool have a good evening, im out as well x It has a part to play, i wouldnt say theres a gangster culture, more that theres a gangster influence, like you wouldnt say Italians are a gangster culture but they have a gangster influence. But i agree we need more role models, ive worked in youth charities here in the UK and it is an issue 100%. Thats something as a community that needs to be sorted. So theres many sides to this, a lot can be helped in terms of policies like equal funding for schools but also black people can work on a lot of the community and family level things as well. Even though i think the situation has been created due to history it doesnt mean we cant be response- able and look at what can be changed ourselves. Its a very complex issue and limiting it to just one thing is a very narrow perspective of it

Cool x

Could have something to do with it, i think poverty in general will create that situation where the man doesnt feel like he can support his family, or if he has to resort to crime. But either way fatherless homes are a massive problem @Preety_India Anything i said that you disagree or that you thought was biased in my original reply?

I dont know if youre saying i should agree with all of it, i agree with some and not al and ive spent time to give clear reasons why. The type of crime you do is very much based on many factors including your wealth, black people commit disproportionately more street crime and white people commit disproportionately more white collar crime. So it would seem that one race doesnt commit more crime than the other but wealth levels dictate what crime youre likely to commit. For example if majority of white people were in poverty they would commit more street crime, if majority black people were wealthy they would commit more white collar crime. Not sure about the study as i havent seen it so cant comment, if you show me ill look at it. Yes by definition if you are a republican you have an agenda, same way Biden has an agenda or anyone aligned to an ideology, religion, political party or whatever, shes not an independent speaker she wouldnt really be able to go against the Trump for example, which is why despite admitting having no evidence or insight on climate change she stuck to the party line on Rogan, if she was an independent she wouldnt have needed to do this -

To speak to wider point, Owens is pretty much about the libertarian viewpoint and i think some of the stuff she says individually makes sense and isnt wrong per se. But i just feel she doesnt look at the whole picture. A lot of people are stuck in a welfare cycle but her solution is to just stop welfare and let everyone fend for themselves and if they cant its there fault. Its not very empathetic and it just wouldnt really work it would be a mess, that doesnt mean the problem isnt valid but the solution, could be looking at how to tweak the welfare system, or raising the minimum wage to incentivise people to come off welfare, or having equality in the budgets between majority black and majority white school, which currently stands at $23 billion in favour of white schools, or investing in communities and community services. These are problems that are not quick fixes but her solutions are not really the answer for me. She has an agenda and she is very clever but i can see why black people dont accept her view or trust her. https://research.msu.edu/innocent-african-americans-more-likely-to-be-wrongfully-convicted/ http://jaapl.org/content/34/1/82

Ive watched it before, but i cant remember all her points, cant really watch it again now, but give me the points you agree with and ill tell you if i agree with you and if not why i dont

Bro im not arguing with you, im not even calling you a white supremacist, im saying by definition you hold beliefs that are the dictionary definition of white supremacy. You would have to argue with the dictionary people on that one.

True haha, the AIs might decimate or integrate us swiftly though lol.