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Consept replied to Consept's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I am calm lol, im just pointing out that you cant deny the ego. Do you feel differently to what ive mentioned? -
I agree with @PetarKa and its something I've said to myself before. The life purpose thing is a fair point but i do feel that the better your consciousness the more clear your life purpose will be, if you are relatively unconscious your life purpose will be skewed and may not be a true reflection of you. So a certain level of consciousness is needed to even have a life purpose. Ultimately though once your consciousness is at a high level you will shift from the idea that 'you' need to become conscious and you will just be focused on contribution, but i think all this will unfold as its supposed to so all you can really focus on is maximising your consciousness
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When you do something new and potentially, at least to you, life changing like moving to a different city, starting a new career path etc, your brain automatically gives resistance. You have to remember your brain is pretty indifferent to the method but its number 1 priority is to keep you safe, so if up until now youve just had a non-challenging easy job, youre safe, but to question that and go in another direction results in fear because to your brain youre taking a risk that could potentially result in something bad, just because its a step into the unknown. So there is no avoidance of this fear, if you choose to do something new it will be brought up within you. What we tend to do to combat this on the level of mind and logic is we assume that because the fear is there we're not ready, so we do what you could call positive procrastination, where we study everything there is to know about what we want to do in the hope that it would reduce the anxiety we feel and we can then take action. Obviously as you know this doesnt work at all, ive done it myself before and i know people whos whole life is basically preparing to take action on something they really want to do. So the problem with this is not only does it delay how long it takes to get started but also in a lot of cases the only way to really learn and become an expert on something is to just do it. If you want to be good at a video game theres no point in just reading the strategy guide, you have to actually play the game. Thats not to say some theory wont help, it will but it has to be balanced with action. The trouble with this whole enlightenment thing is that its the ultimate procrastination, if you are waiting til that happens then your missing the whole point of it. Really you have to live your life now, there is no future salvation, however you feel now with all your doubts, fears and whatever else you have to embrace them and do whatever you feel you need to do. Any avoidance or attempt to fight them will just be taking time that you could be working on what you need to be.
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I dont think you should look to be aggressive in life mainly because if you are aggressive you are either a) completely not in control of your emotions or b) putting on a show by pretending to be aggressive because you think thats how you should be which then takes you down a road of inauthenticity. Someone said learn how to fight and i think this is a good idea, if you notice with fighters (boxing,mma etc) unless theyre very egotistical they would hardly ever actually get into a street yet they most likely have countless people calling them out. This is because they have an inner confidence and inner belief that if it came down to it they would actually do this drunken guy whos abusing them, real damage if they were to attack, so the discipline they learn through training also actually gives them a certain empathy for this guy which they are in touch with because they are no longer triggered by this behaviour. A lot of the time when people get into conflict its usually just for show and to trigger you to see if you escalate the situation, if you show fear and back down then theyve essentially won the fight without fighting, (this is what many apes do, they very rarely fight). If you escalate because you feel you need to protect your ego and in some way 'prove' yourself, then they would either back down or fight you, chances are youll end up fighting because theyve triggered you because they think theyve got a decent chance. Now if with confidence you dont get triggered and remain calm because deep down you believe that you would do damage if you ended up fighting and calmly decline their attempts to trigger you then essentially you put out the fire because theyve got nothing to feed on. So i would say either learn to fight or just have utter belief in yourself and acceptance that if youve gotta fight youve got to fight. 9 times out of 10 if you can convey calmness theyll back down
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My little brother is a bit like this as well so i know it can be tricky. I think its very important to realise that you are on your own path and you will have your own ups and downs that will be different to your friends and happen at different times. In terms of talking to him in an effort to change him, it rarely works unless the person want to change themselves and sees a problem in their actions. I think the main thing is not to take it personally, he obviously has some issues around not being good enough,which is why he wants to compete with you, you may have these issues to a lesser extent which is why you also feel the need to compete, but you could see it as a positive that hes brought out this in you and it gives you a chance to work through it. A lot of people can add value in your life by bringing out underlying issues and forcing you to face them and you should take advantage. Try and just be present when interacting with him and dont react to the triggers just watch them
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Can you truly get rid of it though? You may realise and see it for what it is, but there will always be a monkey mind its just about not getting wrapped up in it or thinking its real. If you talk about how bad it is, it gives it power by saying its an actual thing. You can demote it to just noise
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Personally i dont think it matters what you do as long as you are present while doing it. The reason we pick up so many 'bad' habits is because we want to distract ourselves from the present and our own minds. But if you can truly be present while doing the 'bad' habit it may no longer be appealing to you. For example when i go food shopping i try and remain present this makes it really hard to buy junk food (although i still do sometimes), similarly if you eat a Mcds consciously and actually taste it, youll feel how unreal the food tastes and probably not want to eat it again. So i think the thing is to just try and stay conscious while doing things not to actively drop things you, for whatever reason think are bad. How do you really know what to drop unless you do it yourself consciously? Theres no rules about what you can and cant do its just realising what youre using as a distraction from yourself
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Sounds like youve been through a lot at 19. What i would suggest is to own what youve been through, drug issues say, and speak on that either through rap or whatever outlet, maybe even help out in a youth service or charity, but use what youve been through to provide a real dialogue with other people going through it. Dont worry if youre not completely where you want to be just speak from where you are and youll be surprised how many people you could touch
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Yeah you might be right in that your issue is accepting the life situation, which sonething you need to do. But you seem to want to rid yourself of fear, even if its the fear of not always having fear, you cant get rid of it. Theres nothing you can do to get rid, real acceptance is fully understanding that, otherwise all youre doing is trying to think it away which actually powers it and makes it more 'real'. In an overall way anything youre doing to get rid of fear no matter how spiritual it looks will ultimately increase the fear because its non acceptance of it. You almost have to embrace it and love it but understand that it will always be there
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By it i mean that feeling of discomfort or uneasiness you feel, essentially this feeling is resistance to what is happening now. When i say what is happening i mean literally every thought in your head whether you like the thought or not, whether its negative or positive, all of it has to be accepted. If its not even on a mental level you build up resistance and because youre not willing to accept it on that level it manifests into things you can do on a physical level that you think will change this uneasy feeling. Nothing you do will (trust me i tried) the only thing is not doing, which is acceptance. Meditation is really a practice of acceptance, its not a chore that once you do it enough some magic will happen and youll feel fine. Understand that acceptance is not comfortable but it is authentic and thats the whole point. Stop doing and start being
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Thr journey youre on is kind of a paradox (one that we all face to some extent). Youre actively looking for things to do or to achieve that you think will give you value as a person and praise as you say, but the very act of doing this is re-enforcing to yourself that you are not enough as you are you need to do more. So the more you do and seek the more youll feel the need to seek. The problem is youre thinking of these things and 'yourself' as something to be achieved, as if once you do them everything will be sorted in your life and you will no longer worry about anything, life is lived in the moment not im going to do this and then i can live. Essentially what you want is peace of mind and what will give you that is acceptance of your mind and realising that there is nothing you can do to change it so you have to let it be. What youre doing is non acceptance because youre looking for as many things as possible to change yourself. Dont get me wrong the things youre doing are not bad but the motivation behind them will not wotk for you. If you want to do them because you genuinely want to say help people then thats great, but if your motivation is just a means to an end then youre missing the point. Dont be disheartened though this is a the struggle i think we all go through
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Practically speaking for entrepreneurship ideas i do Amazon fba which is pretty good. Not sure where youre based but there are a lot of different strategies, one that might suit you for example is going to charity shops and scanning books to see if you can make profit on Amazon. (i know it sounds low level but theres people making a lot from it). You can also buy wholesale, do arbs, loads of options. Ive also sold on ebay which is ok but youd need to look at strategies specific to ebay. Point is there are definitelyly ways to make money, i wouldnt say passively, but at least on your own terms. Its really just about learning the strategy and then taking action. If it works great if it doesnt learn where you went wrong, rinse and repeat. Good luck whatever you do
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Lol you should say this a quote from Osho nice try haha. But still very relevant, actually Osho talks about this a lot in general and its actually really important to understand that theres nothing you can 'do' to become enlightened, theres no job or planned (by you) path that will lead you there, what you have to do is be present with whatever is happening now. So if youre at a job that maybe deep down you know you dont like, dont surpress that feeling bring your presence in. Once you do that youll know for sure whether you should be doing it or not. Theres nothing to say you cant do business or whatever its just you have to not loose yourself in it and remember its sonething youre doing not something you are. Dont look for an identity in it
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Consept replied to 100rockets's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What will you do once youre enlightened? -
Consept replied to bazera's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Just my view but i would say hes saying hes bringing a certain truth that has the potential to turn families against each other. If you think about it in modern times its the same, those that get into spirtuality a lot of times get into conflict with members of their family over it. -
I dont think theres anything wrong with talking to people about problems per se but i guess just be aware while doing it so you can see the reasons behind it. I would do this every so often and a lot of the times i realised that the reasons behind it werent to sort out the problem it was more to get sympathy which doesnt help at all in sorting out the problem, in fact it can make it worse as it will validate the problem and justify you not sorting it out. Also watch who you talk to about problems, it can be very telling who youre drawn to, for example you might find yourself going to those who you know will give sympathy but no solutions.
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@Parki its interesting the way you use the example. But i think its more like what everyone wants really is fulfillment, acceptance, meaning, validation which will give us peace of mind so we go toward whatever we've been brought up to think will give us these. We also have the paradigm that we obtain stuff whether its knowledge or material things. So using your example we might want a lambo but really what we want is validation which we think we'll get from having one, you may feel contentment for a little while but eventually it will fade maybe youll get bored of the car or it will get old or whatever but everything material is by nature temporary. So enlightenment is different in that it already its just that you dont realise it, thats the definition of being enlightened. So the journey to it is more of inward cutting away of what you have learnt already to see the truth, as opposed to a adding and chasing so eventually i realise. So when we talk about creating emotions its because you and im guessing most of us, are in the paradigm we were brought up in which is that of being unenlightened
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When i stumbled on the gurus and channels like Leos it struck me that i could transcend my 'issues' by following certain things and cultivating habits that increase my awareness. Without going into it too much ive always had issues with anxiety and ocd, since taking this path ive had times when ive pretty much been free of these issues or at least become so excepting of them that they didnt cause any problems or symptoms. But it would always come back despite how much i learnt about it or why its there and how to get rid of it. So after talking to a friend about it, i realised that there were a lot of things that happened in my childhood that could lead to it overpowering me sometimes. So my question is do you have to deal with these issues, as in delve into your past or is it possible to be free of them by meditating, building up awareness etc?
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Im reading a book at the moment called Sex At Dawn, which is about eveloutionary biology and looks into why we form the sexual relationships we do. (check it out if you get a chance) I havent finished it yet but a main theme explored is whether humans do pair bond for life, its universally accepted that we do. There was some interesting research into why this might not be true, ill just summerise a few points here - Out of all the primates only one other, the gibbon, mates for life, these are tree dwelling primates with tails and evolutionarily speaking are very far away from us Bonobos are the closest to us and apart from us are the only primate to have sex for pleasure (when the female is not ovulating) they mate freely with others in their tribe and all share parental responsibility even though there maybe no parental link. Females are also often head of their tribes In every human civilization ever studied there has always been sex outside of marriage (or marriage equivalent). Even when there has been the threat of death or harsh punishment, the argument being that if it was our natural state of being would such harsh punishments be necessary? Most untouched human tribes when researched by anthropologists reported quite open attitudes to sex. There were some tribes where no one actually knew their fathers identity and every male took a parental interest in the children. Some tribes had celebrations where the married females could choose someone else to mate with. Some of these still happen today in untouched tribes. Point being when left in nature humans dont tend to form strict monogomous pairings, although there may be a main partner there will also be others. Anyway just some points to think, its also interesting to bring up that the idea of 'romanticism' only really came about in western society in the 1800s and was brought about by literature. Before that marriages were mainly arranged and dependent on class and sharing of resources. So what do you think are we naturallu monogomous? Me personally as much as like the idea of freedom and at the moment i do try to practice that, there is something in me that feels like eventually a monogomous relationship is the natural end point, have i just been indoctrinated into this way of thinking by living in a western country Britain since birth?
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Yeah i get what youre saying and i think at the root most religions start off as basically a way to get to oneness or god or whatever you want to call it. The problem is when say a religious experience is translated into language its no longer the religious experience anymore just someones interpretation. So this is why its important to just see anything anyone tells you as sign posts and not the actual experience, only you can experience that. The issue i have with religion in particular things like christianity is that they promise salvation in the future and make it conditional on what you do or what 'sins' you commit. Logically this doesnt make sense because if im born poor or into a criminal family its a completely different choice im making in comparison to someone born rich who doesnt actually need to steal. So for me its all about the control element when its put into practice. Also by claiming salvation is in the future it ensures youre never content in the now
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@Everlast i would say your internal conflict would be from denying and avoiding as you say normal feelings. If you supress them i think its more likely to either cause you ongoing internal conflict or worst case lead you to act them out. If we're speaking evolutionarily i would say there are compelling arguments to say we're probably not naturally monogomous, but that isnt to say that you cant be i think its just important to realise where these urges come from and that youre not wrong for having them. As long its not fear driving you to be in a relationship and youre doing it from a real, authentic place then i dont see any problem with your situation
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I think essentially sin is just something thats not true to you, that goes against what you feel is right. So there could be temptation ie to take advantage of someone for your gain but then you know thats not right and if you are aware enough youll get a feeling to that end. Organised religion is about control and the best way to get control is fear so if you label something which is a personal choice, say for example sex before marriage, as a sin, people will be in fear of their own natural urges
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I think its more about becoming aware that language or descriptions of things arent the actual thing. For example if you label a tree a tree it almost serves as a way to dismiss that particular tree because youve already defined what a tree is, so you dont experience the individual tree for what it is. We tend to categorise a lot as humans which is why we make sweeping generlisations about race for example. As long as you make these generalisations youll always be stuck in the world you create around them and miss out on whats really there
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Without using social and cultural conditionings, are there any arguments in favour of humans being naturally monogomous?
