SwiftQuill

Putting the blame on women does nothing to solve the issue. Besides, if I were a 5/10 Becky who has chads messaging her all the time on social media, plus being brainwashed by late stage feminism, it's no wonder the situation has become like this. There are other groups of people I would blame more than women. But I won't get into that. As for grifting, the thing is that it attracts bad luck. It can send you in a bad path. And besides that, even to become a grifter requires skill. You need to learn to edit videos, be charismatic, all of that. So you might as well put the same amount of effort into a non grifting career.

@Snt_lk Good job starting a company. I plan on starting a business as well, but only next year. As for money advice, I can't help you. I'm also a wagecuck. As for sanity advice, I say you need to identify your people pleasing tendencies. Here are examples I identified in myself: Saying "yes" immediately, and all the time. Staying up late at work. Avoiding confrontations with coworkers. Overapologizing (I used to start many emails with "I'm sorry for bothering" and even be like that in person). Overexplaining myself ("I understand you want me to do this, but you see, I have a lot of work on my pipeline right now, and the priorities bla bla bla..) Avoiding confrontations with my employer. I've had times when my employer was quite toxic. Yelling at me. I should have told him (politely and calmly) that I do not tolerate that kind of treatment. I may deserve to be scolded for something I did but not YELLED AT. If you are too nice in this world, your mental health will become a wreck.

@Snt_lk late stage capitalism gaslights you into thinking if you are cooperative and hard working you'll be fine. You won't. They use your humility and your kind hearted nature to exploit you. Employers will exploit you and coworkers will fuck you in the ass. I suffered a lot at work for most of my life because of my people pleasing tendencies. I used to think if I put in that extra hour of work at the end of the day, if I do that one task (that's outside my department's focus), if I cooperate with my difficult coworker, if I do what they want, everything will be easier. But it simply doesn't work that way. If you are a workaholic, they will use that against you. If you work 1 extra hour every single day, the one day you don't do it, your employer will say you're lazy. If you do your coworker's task, at the cost of your own productivity, you will be punished for it. It's crucial to find a healthy middle ground. I'm working on it myself to this day. Earlier this year I had a female coworker (a feminist) who always interpreted my requests for help as some sort of attention grabbing scheme. Like dude, I'm a programmer, and I need to discuss with programmers in the same project... about the project's details. I won't get into too much detail, but she refused to do Microsoft Teams meetings with me, she was very hostile to me all the time, even for asking simple, "yes" or "no" questions about the project. I tried everything, but she didn't cooperate. My team leader told me "oh well she's a bit difficult to work with but I'm sure you can find a way to make it work". This is gaslighting. I did all sorts of retarded things, way outside my list of responsibilities, and our project suffered a lot of delays and hinderances, because she refused to interact with me. So I quit that job. But the lesson here is to never reach the same point I did. Don't bend over backwards for an employer or a coworker. It simply doesn't work. Not worth it. I should have stood my ground earlier and not let her get away with so much shit.

It's all fake news.

Survival requires some amount of manipulation. If you are at a job interview, and you are too honest, you will lose the job. Exaggerations, euphemisms, distortions, promises, these are necessary to survive in society. But you can't take it too far. You can't tell a recruiter you have a degree in medicine and 10 years of experience when you have neither. You will be found out and punished for it. The same principle for dating, socializing, marketing yourself. Manipulation is necessary (to some extent). Usually, the worse off you are in life, the more you will require manipulation to survive. But once you reach a sweet stop, you stop needing it so much. Most interactions with humans are job interviews. Don't feel bad for manipulating.

I'm not American idk if that's a good score or not. But regardless congratulations man! Completing a Master's is no easy feat. I'm doing one in Business Management. I wish you good luck with your life purpose and career!

You're actually suggesting him to become a grifter? You can't be serious.

First off your attitude of "I don't want anything hard or complicated" is very problematic. 99% of jobs are difficult. Working at McDonald's might not be intellectually difficult but you need to keep track of customer orders and ingredients and be fast. Wanting an easy job is a terrible strategy in life. Now as for suggestions, I'd say go into a trade school. Learn mechanics, or electricity, or plumbing. These seem to me the best low stress jobs that don't require a college degree. You can also learn systems admin. Like how to install VPNs, protect files with passwords, create emails, work with Linux and windows. But again, all these jobs require some form of skill learning. Also don't expect you'll stop being an incel just because of your job. You'll still need to work out, improve social skills, get a large circle of friends, and be rejected by women like 1000 times. If you think the job market is fucked then the dating market is 100x worse.

SCP foundation is peak horror. Really high quality literature. I wrote an scp once but didn't get to publish it on the site.

When you ask about manipulation do you mean in general or specifically for pickup?

@Joshe My problem is that it's easy to deconstruct Ben Shapiro. If you watch any of his videos, look at his comment section, his own audience calls him out on his right wing grift bullshit. I don't need to say anything about Ben Shapiro. David Pakman is different. I don't think he is a grifter at all. But he is extremely biased to the left. In the way he selects the data, in the way he presents it, in the way he promotes his woke religion. Ben vs David would obviously be an unfair match against Ben. But David is mainstream. Ben Shapiro isn't mainstream. So while you and Leo say that David Pakman is such an intelligent guy, such a wise guy, such a good political commentator... Remember he promotes cancel culture. He promotes BLM. He promotes the anti cop movement. He essentially promotes all of the horrible parts in the Woke religion. And he presents them in a sanitized, almost intelligent manner. And that's why I hate David Pakman. I hate how loyal he is to his religion. I hate how he is mainstream. I hate how his audience (99%) agrees with everything he says. Maybe you have never experienced yourself the toxic side of Wokeness. You've never been banned, cancelled, fired, unfairly accused of SA, or anything like that. But if you think Wokeness is "silly" in the same sense Christianity Jesus invisible God is "silly", you truly don't get it. Edit: "You have said more lies in that sentence, than there are words in that sentence." is a quote that comes to my mind when I hear the likes of Pakman/Sam Seder/Destiny talking. And of course, that means to deconstruct and explain each of those lies is very time consuming.

@blackchair only if Balkan women are hot

@Joshe I've discussed the problems with the religion of Woke many times in this forum and no one ever listens. So really there's no point debating it or explaining it. But whenever someone brings up a woke talking point or something stupid or dangerous from that religion, I do call them out. When Leo posts a video by David Pakman and says "Hey guys this political youtuber is pretty dope and unbiased" it triggers me. In the same manner it out trigger 90% of this forum if I were to unironically say Ben Shapiro is a good political commentator.

@Joshe you're the one who brought up woke. I didn't bring it up in this thread. My criticism was mostly directed at loud vegans and common vegan talking points.

@Joshe I hate woke because I hate LIES Everyone loves to point out the lies of the Right. Everyone loves to beat a dead horse. But if I dare point out lies of the Left, then I'm an edgelord. "you projecting guilt" bullshit I'm REJECTING THE LIES

"tHoSe dUmB MeAt eAtErS CaN'T HaNdLe tHe tRuTh tHaT I'M MoRe sElFeSs tHaN ThEm" I hope you people repeat that mantra 100x in a row to yourselves at night. You clearly need it to sleep well.

Exactly.

@Joshe stopped reading as soon as you mentioned Trump. I don't entertain red herrings and stupid comparisons.

I think they meant survival not in the "biological being needs to survive" but in the sense that Leo uses it. Like how playing videogames is survival, or watching a movie is survival. And I do agree that eating tasty food is part of our higher order survival. If someone has a tough life, working long hours with few luxuries, and their few moments of pleasure are at lunch and dinner, they are unlikely to become vegan. When people are overworked and unhappy, they often seek comfort in hedonistic pleasures. That is why I do not see them as evil for eating animal products. I do not confront them, debate them, or demand they justify drinking milk in the morning or eating a cheeseburger at lunch. And if vegans don't understand this? If they don't possess the empathy to understand where those people come from, and even the logic to understand the approach of moralizing doesn't work? Those vegans are just retarded.

It's hard taking vegans seriously when the default response is "jUsT AdMiT YoU KiLl aNiMaLs bEcAuSe bAcOn iS TaStY" Very low IQ response that in my opinion deserves to be mocked. People like @Kid A act like I'm a closed minded douchebag because I "promote the annoying vegan stereotype" but honestly after having met so many vegans and being exposed to the same talking points, the same self righteous attitudes, it's no longer a stereotype, it's an actual pattern. These attitudes of judgement and moralizing only serve to make meat eaters defensive, or at least annoyed. Honestly, I suggest meat eaters to never bother debating with vegans. It's almost always a waste of time. Not even worth it for dumpster fire entertainment value.

I haven't worked on my thesis since sunday and I got a shit ton of research to do ughh It's overwhelming. Even intellectually. It requires so much fucking mental resources. And I feel so guilty for not working on it. About 6 months left of this bullshit. It's so annoying.

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I'm not the one who is going out of their way to preach others on how to live their lives. And I never said vegans are evil so I'm not moralizing. I'm saying that when you are loud and obnoxious then don't be surprised people reject your ideology.