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@MattP Eventually it all collapses into a singularity beyond time.

I think that's called the Bunga Soto or something similar sounding to that. I've heard the expression " dipping below the Bunga Soto while remaining aware". Sounds like the delta b-w you speak of. Get a decent b-w monitor and find out. It's expensive stuff though. Sleep study clinics have all the good equipment. Imagine working there and having full access when the place is closed.

@Little Plant I see things too when I close my eyes. But the things I see when I have them open is what scares me.

@Amit Conscionsceness does not need to 'travel' anywhere. It is inter woven throughout the universe.

This episode of Seinfeld reminds me of trying to see enlightenment but can't. Go to 3:30

We get so accustomed to thinking that the here and now only goes from here to there that we miss the fact that it is infinite. -RBDC

@Leo Gura Life started as a potential out of nothingness along with an infinite number of other possibilities.

@Leo Gura That sounds like it will be a good one for sure. Here's a thought too. Space itself could provide a sort of hibernation or suspended animation for genetic material to be spread throughout the universe. Sometimes planets collide. Or take a massive direct hit from an asteroid that could eject genetic material high in the atmosphere into space. It is possible that we hitched a ride on the back of a comet or asteroid, or meteor from another location to be here. Who knows, maybe we have distant relatives living in another part of the universe- no pun intended.

@Natasha I had a brother and he always had a fear or paranoia about him since day one. Like he came into the world with it. He was also a twin-btw. I always wondered if he remembered his birth experience.

@egoless If you awaken while your digging ditches, you will see that is exactly where the universe wanted you to be at that moment.

@Leo Gura Microtubul's are an interesting subject. Some theorize that they may be responsible for biological consciousness. 95 % of our genetic code is not yet understood. You gotta wonder what may be hidden there and has yet to be discovered about our past and future.

@egoless If you awoken to realize that you are absolutely everything that is happening, what difference would it make what career you have? All careers would be included in that 'everythingness' wouldn't they? The answer to your question is -it's a personal preference and nothing more.

I'm feeling like part of the scenery. I've walked right out of the machinery. Peter Gabriel

You are not that which appears within a space. You are the space in which that appears..

A babies consciousness is crystal clear in the absence of all filters.

Existence is a landscape of infinite potential. Apply the correct prerequisite and anything is possible.

@Leo Gura Great timing for me to be hearing these words. I've re-awakened today after a bit of a slumber. Thanks to Az also. I see all of it perfectly clear now. It opened up like the sun has come out. Everything is here now. It forever rests in it's completeness.

I think I may be getting some traction here. So would it be fair to say that the finite is sort of a projection (for lack of a better word) of the infinite? Is that what you mean by 'flipping it inside out'? If that's what you mean, I've experienced that. It happened only after transcending (annihilation) of the mind. It was infinite and contained everything without containing a single thing. I know that sounds like a paradox, but that's how it was experienced. When I came back, this reality was realized as an aspect (or projection) that was happening within the infinite. In truth they are one in the same, but I must speak in dualistic terms for clarification from a first person perspective experience. And on the level of mind they are separate in a way, but only (and that's a big only) because the mind creates a huge partition. This get's back to my original question, 'Is the mind the membrane?'. Just for clarification, I'm seeing what you are referring to as a 'membrane' as what I am thinking of as a sort of a 'partition'. But maybe I'm misunderstanding the use of the word 'membrane' because of limited experience? Or maybe I'm not but there is more to this 'membrane' you speak of than just the partitioning mind keeping me from experiencing absolute infinity? But anyhow, since that experience I see the partitioning mind the creator of the illusion of life and death. Or in other words, it creates all the illusion of separation between finite and infinite. But that too is dualistic thinking? So to sum up, if I understand correctly, what you are saying, is- this too is part of the all inclusive- absolute infinity. Am I getting any closer? haha Thanks Az I gotta experience 5meo sometime but I don't know if my heart could take it. Does physical death count in lieu of doing 5meo? I've got that on my list of things to experience someday.

@How to be wise You can do it right now- Everything will become the magic happening. Do you have a quiet place in nature somewhere around you? Go there sometime and sit with a quiet mind. Dissolve into everything by letting go. The sounds. The smells. The visual field of perception. See if all that doesn't heighten after the mind quiets down. Try closing your eyes and meditate on absolute nothingness. Than slowly open them again and allow existence to pour into you. If you allow it, some really amazing things can happen. This is no philosophy here. But don't take my word for it. Find out for yourself.

Haha-Nothing at all. That's the Magic! Total absorption has no practical value. That's why the mind missis it every time.

@How to be wise Total absorption into what is. How much of the time can you stay there? That one is totally on you. There is no secret formula other than the love of being there.

@Shin I listened to Bentinho 'What is Consciousness'. That one does answer the question, where is the magic of reality. Haven't listen to Bentinho for a while. Good stuff!

@AzraelJust thinking out loud here. What do you think about this? Could that membrane you speak of be the mind itself? The very thing that keeps me-me and you-you. And when the mind with all it's associations and identifications is transcended, all that would remain would be pure consciousness. Which of course is infinite. Leo himself said 5-MEO-dmt was like experiencing 'pure consciousness'. This is why I ask. When I think about it, transcending or relinquishing the mind wouldn't be a far stretch of what we refer to as death or dying. Mind does contain all our 'valuable assets' as a self as all the experiences, memories, emotions, ect that makes us what we are as a person. Could it all be that simple? That enlightenment is the ability to transcend the mind? That would explain too about surrender being a huge factor in all this. Surrendering of the mind along with all it's personal content so that all that remains is pure/infinite consciousness. If this is reasonably true, than the formula for enlightenment, or even experiencing Samadhi would simply be the practice of relinquishing mind though surrender. I know that is so easy to say, but to actually do it is quite another story. But understanding enlightenment that simply does put it within reach. Even if it is just conceptually. We are already mind happing within consciousness right this moment. So we are experiencing both mind and consciousness right now. So it is all right here at our fingertips already. We need just to take the mind factor out of that equation so that all that remains is pure consciousness. And that itself is really just a choice of when you are ready. I never experienced 5-meo-dmt. Would it be fair than to say that 5meo completely washes away the mind for a little while? So that everything beyond mind can be freely experienced without limitations, hesitations, judgements, constructs, partitions, fears, ect, ect, ect that exist only in the mind? Please feel free to give me pointers here so I can put this into a clear perspective. I'd like to get to that 'Chewy center of the Tootsie Roll Pop' that is enlightenment. But I gotta get through the hard candy coating of the mind first. Even if it's just one lick at a time. haha

@TJ Reeves Ram Dass tells a story about the time he had well thought out retreat planned in the mountains somewhere in India. He planned to put everything into it and get as 'high' as he could. He had visions of maybe hanging out on some astral plane with the likes of Baba ji, Christ, Buddha. He told his guru about his plans expecting the guru would be pleased by his effort. But instead his guru just looked at him and said 'Whatever you desire'.

The best things in life are not things.