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@Judy2 oh, I thought you had a laptop. Then what kind of keyboard do you have? And is it an ipad, android, or windows tablet? You still have 2 options. You could buy a usb to micro usb / usb c connector. They also shouldn't be that expensive or buy a Bluetooth keyboard.

They actually start from 8 euros: https://www.mediamarkt.de/de/category/tastaturen-375.html?sort=currentprice%2Basc

@Judy2 you could go and buy some cheap keyboard at mediamarkt or some other place like this for 20 bucks.

@Lila9 I don't necessarily say that I want to be chased by girls. Sure, I as a guy have to do the first steps of approaching, setting up a date, etc. I am just against the idea of me being the only one who invests into a relationships, shows love, care, attention, etc. I also want to be told that I am loved, or be given a compliment, or cuddled, or jumped on and hugged from time to time. I don't see what's wrong with that orbhow would that make me lose attraction towards her.

@Salvijus yeah, that's what I am saying, why not. Sounds like an ideal relationship.

@Salvijus yeah, this sounds like an awesome option. Why can that be the case?

Okay let's say I would be open to trying this "just socialize" appoach. But here are questions and concerns that I have about it: Lets say my hobby is climbing. If I oush myself out of my comfort zone I could probably find myself a group of friends, like 10 people, at my climbing gym and hang out with them. 1. Am I supposed to have a social circle of a hundred + people and spend half of my waking time on it? The social circle of 10 friends would have 2-3 girls in it let's say. This just seems like not enough volume. What if none of them are attracted to me or I am not attracted to them? 2. If I can't find a partner within my social circle am I supposed to ditch it and set up a new one? For example in this case, am I supposed to find a new hobby for myself, lol? I don't like that idea. 3. Let's say that I am lucky and I find a gf from my social circle. What happens if we break up? Hanging out together in that social circle would get super awkward for us. Once again, am I supposed to ditch it now? Or am I supposed to get a new gf from the same social circle, considering how we would all know wach other? 4. Am I supposed to now view every girl within my social circle as a dating opportunity? I don't like it becuase it kills the idea that man and woman can be just good friends and not have any hidden intentions behind their biceness/ friendliness and not play dating games with each other. Seems like a really weird situation full of gossiping, games, and manipulation. Comparee to that pickup seems like a much more authentic and honest option. My dad met both my mom and my stepmom by cold approaching them basically. And in both cases was able to create a fine and healthy family out of it. So I don't know why girls are shitting on cold approach so much.

You should have started with this. Thank you, now it makes sense.

@Emerald okay, most of it makes sense now, but I am still skeptical abaout this part Why would I not love her. I feel like I would really appreciate it if a girl expressed her love to me. That would actually enable me to express love back to her. And if she was only in the receiving role then I would restrict the amaount of love I express towards her. And would eventually breaak up with her probably cause what's the point of being in a relationship like that when you don't even feel loved...

@Emerald also, to be honest, men also want to receive love and attention...

I can't help but feel that you only think that this is a good idea because you are a woman and of course as a woman it would benefit your survival if guys behaved this way. Like honestly, as a guy, why would I risks going through all that trouble, be vulnerable, increase my chances of being taken for granted or friendzoned when I know that I can do the opposite and get a girl get super attracted and attached to me with much lesser risks? If I am genuinely attracted to her as well and don't plan to mistreat her in any way then what's so wrong about it?

@Leo Gura what do you think about this? Doesn't it go against traditional pickup theory of being detached and not over investing in the girl? Which is supposed to make her more attracted to you? @Emerald doesn't it go against women having a motherly role in a family? It's a feminine role to give love, care and empathy to children and masculine role to provide for them and protect them. To me it makes sense that giving love is feminine by nature and should translate into other areas as well, no? Why would that be different in a man to woman relationship?

@Optimized Life thanks, that's an awesome perspective.

@Lila9 wow, thanks

@Lila9 can you recommend any?

@Leo Gura I see. Thank you for sharing.

@Karmadhi ?

@Karmadhi you sound even more depressed than I am, haha. Are you okay?

Leo, do you mind if I ask how this makes you feel? On two levels. 1) Did you have any feelings of jealousy / insecurity. I don't mean about money, but the kind a person might feel if a gf flirted with another guy in front of you (I assume not, but still curious). 2) Did you start thinking less of her after it? Or, alternatively, would you admire her more if she told you how a billionaire offered her a mercedes and she rejected it because she doesn't need random "freebies" in life? If you didn't start thinking any less of her after it, is it because you didn't treat this relationship seriously / consider her as a potential life-long partner anyway or is it because you genuinely don't mind it?

Thank you. That’s an interesting take. I don't think I've this issue when growing up to be honest. My problem was that I would be adraid to express myself around my dad and would try to be as invisible as possible. And I think because of that I still have issues with opening up to people and having a good time without constantly analyzing my every action.

@CARDOZZO 22, sorry for not responding earlier

Good to know, thanks for advise.

@Leo Gura thanks. I will try to adopt this attitude.

@Leo Gura how did you learn to stay positive and "Radiant like the Sun" while also being real about how the world is instead of just bullshitting yourself and wearing pink glasses?

Can I ask what is it?