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@Lila9, after someone criticizes both Israel and Hamas in the same post

Please be careful with acknowledging that both sides are guilty. She might not be able to compute that.

I am sorry, but you must be either retarded or 100% disingenius and manipulative to suggest I am justifying or protecting hamas in any way. If I criticize israels war crimes that means I think that it's okay for Hamas to commit war crimes or that I support them, right? You are so binary, it's ridiculous. Nice cope. Most of those death tolls are confirmed by the UN and Israel themselves. Nobody, EVEN ISRAEL, is disputing them that much. Israel has openly admitted to theur last attack and killing almost 100 civilians, they have no issues with it. Besides, that's not the point of the question. The question is, where do you draw a line for yourself? But you are not going to answer, are you? It's crazy how you can't even hold an argument with a bit of integrity.

That's exactly what you've said and keep saying. He was not posing any active danger to anyone. This was a strategic decision to eliminate him without regard for other human lives. There was no proof that this strike will kill him or that he is there. You have no way of telling whose side those civilians were on. It was in the middle of a refugee camp.

Yes it is. That's exactly what you are doing. Comparing a value of human lives. Why couldn't this have been a ground operation, using troop to catch and eliminate him? Because Israel values the lives of its soldiers more than it does the lives of Palestine civilians. This is a ridiculous scenario. He wasn't shooting at anyone at the moment. There was no hard proof that he was even there in the first place. You have no idea who those 80 civilians were supporting nor should it matter as supporting someone is not a death sentence worthy offence. At least not according to the laws of the 1st world countries, which Israel claims to be. And even if your fairy tail scenario was the case. Lets says it was some terrorist holding 80 people hostage and shooting everyone else in the middle of New York. There is no way a solution would be to kill them all together.

@DawnC also, ironically, this is exactly how Hamas thinks and that's why, I assume, you have an issue with them. Ends justify the means. By fighting Hamas like that, you become Hamas.

@DawnC it's disgusting to see you compare the costs of human lives like that. If you think that killing him is worth 80 other lives then it ahould be your and your family's lives. If I gave you a choice: I will kill this guy but you and your whole family have to die. Are you going to agree to that deal? Yeah, exactly.

@Lila9 I am seriously curious. Is there a line where you will say "okay that's too much"? Like if Israel kills 100000 civilians, like Leo said, are you going to say that they have lost it? Or is it okay for them to kill 2 millions of Palestinians for all you care because "Hamas is bad"?

@Merkabah Star but you don't get it. Hamas are bad guys so it's okay.

@Lila9 you see, the difference between you and me is that you basically say: Hamas is cruel and evil so it justifies Israel being cruel and evil too. Every time someone points out Israel's war crimes, you just point your finger and say "but look, Hamas does that too." The difference though is that Hamas is a terrorist group while Israel is supposed to be a civilized state with a seat at the UN. So in my opinion, it's okay to hold them to a bit of a higher standard. And in my opinion, Hamas being cruel and evil, doesn't justify Israel committing war crimes as well. *** But even if you put that aside, and stick to your position of Israel can do whatever they want, and murder as many people as they want because Hamas is bad. It's simply delusional to praise them for being soooo humane at the same time, lol.

@Nivsch @Lila9 Doesn't seem very humane to me...

@Soul_Guy @PurpleTree Why do you guys care what was in trend when? This is so dumb. All that matters is whether they look good on a particular person. Saying out of context stuff like "baggy pants are horrible" is silly.. Ok boomer

You guys sure love to play a victim card. How about 30x more dead palestinian people? I don't see you trying to emphasize with them very much.

What part of what he said sounded cocky or agressive to you? Also, it's pretty dumb to show your face or give any kind of real life information on a forum full of weird, mentally unstable people.

So basically, according to your own prophecy, Jews are bringers of the apocalypse? They went and decided to take back Jerusalem because of their over inflated egos, then built a powerful army and caused a conflict that will lead to a nuclear annihilation? Are you secretely trying to justify the holocaust?

@Gennadiy1981 like seriously, this is the entitlement that people are talking about. And I am not talking about Jews in general, I am talking about your entitled ass specifically right now. There was a freaking world war happening. Every European nation was struggling hard basically. There were huge death tolls, and they didn't consist only of Jews. And yet, everyone was supposed to drop everything and go try save your people specifically according to you. How deluded can you be?

I never said any of that. But I guess it is just more convenient to groubdlessly accuse people of not liking you when they start inconveniently debunking your bullshit.

@Gennadiy1981 yes, because sjoining a war on another continent that you were not involved with is a huge fucking decision to make. Railways were very much bombed during the war. But I guess that doesn't matter that much when you want to play a victim card. Not to mention that saving Jews specifically wasn't exactly on the top of the priority list. And after the war you were given a whole fucking country (cause Jews didn't take Israel with their own powers, did they?). And that's still not enough for you. You still complain that the world didn't do enough, lol.

How did you want the world to protest against the Holocaust, which they didn't even have full knowledge of, besides being at war with Germany, lol?

What's your evidence for Jews being more evolved as a society than the rest of the world at this point? Your argument is basically "we had a monoteistic religion" so we were better than everyone else. But when it comes to the actual level of development, which should show in your actions and the ways of living, how were you different compared to other societies?

Literally the whole point of a spiral dynamics model is that it describes how human psyche evolves. Meaning, it suggest that this is how humanity is hard wired to progress. According to that, stage blue would happen with or without Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam happened because of stage blue. If those religions didn't exist, some other would, they are not essential. So if you were to stick to your position, you should reject spiral dynamics altogether and say that they are wrong, instead of cherrypicking stuff that suits you.

Sorry to brake it to you but stage blue didn't happen because of Jews or Jewish religion.

@momo yeah, I agree

All wars are bullshit wars.

No, it's because they bring morality and ethics into the world.