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@cetusthats because your mom doesnt count

Good tip, thanks

@Sincerity at worst I will friendzone her and use her to build up my social circle to make myself more attractive to other girls. So its a win/win I guess.

Haha

I mostly just enjoy them for fun and out of curiosity. Like personality tests and such.

@Schizophonia, yo, what did you write? I am curious.

@Stickyou are the second person who has drawn lovers for me today, interesting... I woildn't say I feel confused, at least not in the present moment. I resonate with lovers and hermit description the most, I think. I knew it! I am so dead, haha

Bruh

@Stickgreat writing, but I want an actual readinggg

Ehh, okay, thank you.

So now they've lost your respect and you will never play it?

@Mada_if I were a girl, I would totally date you. Or if you were a girl... Btw, I have herpes on my lips and I am yet to have my first kiss. Funny

Thank you guys for your valuable advise. @Hojo @Sincerity @eliasvelez @eliasvelez @Spiral I like the idea of shoulder touching. And also open communication as the ice breaker. In general, I think that the root cause solution is for me to graw some ball and just chill and be myself. And I am kind of getting there because I am tired of pretending. I DONT KNOW, MAN! This is so dumb The first "meeting" was me texting her: "hey, do you want to go to a movie together? and she said yes. The second "meeting" was me texting her: "I would really love to go to a climbing gym together". And she also said yes. I've never explicitly said: "Hey, lets go on a date". If it's any indicator, her responses were always really enthusiastic. Like: "Ooo, I really wanted to see this movie" Or "Ooo, I am ready to go to a climbing gym on any day". But idk, maybe she is just a cheerful person like that. Also, yesterday after climbing we sat there and chatted for like 1+ hour, while drinking coffee. Which made me think that she actually enjoyed the meeting.

I cant do it anymore.

@NewKidOnTheBlockdifferent people have different passions and interests in life.

@Emerald thank you

@Leo Gura +1 for the release

@Leo Gura unrelated but, do I understand correctly that if a girl agrees to go with you on a first date, then you are attractive enough for her looks wise, and it's just up to your game at that point?

I think he seriously overestimates how fast the progress will be with his claims about the future, But I think some surgeries can help you look a lot better if you happen to be the right person. Like if your teeth are all yellow and crooked, getting them straight and pearly white will make you look a lot better. I think I would look, maybe not a lot, but noticeably better if I removed my acne scars. I know for sure that I definitely look better now that I've had lasik surgery and don't need to wear glasses.

I actually wanted to avoid watching the full interview because I didn't want it to impact my mental health negatively, but then I've changed my mind. I have to say, it takes real mental effort to not get depressed when hearing all this.

Uhh, my heart is going to break. She is so nice but I am afraid that she is not attracted to me romantically. How could she be...

Easily the best social thing that I've ever been to. It was organized in a cafe from 16:00 to 20:00. There were 8 guys and 6 girls (it was supposed to be 7 girls, but 1 didn't come). There were 4 tables and guys would rotate between the tables every 35 minutes (plus 10 minutes of free time before each round starts). Each round they would give us 3 options: a tabletop game (most were centered around getting to know each other), cards with questions, or some "integration exercise" (for example we got one where each person had to write down their top 3 strength, and then you would draw connections between each other's strengths if they are related in any way). I've enjoyed the whole thing so much! And I think I did really well. I was talkative and active, I didn't feel that anxious or stressed but rather excited and alert. And I think some people even liked me. The cafe was really nice, had cool art on the walls, and had a nice atmosphere in general. The people were nice. I liked the format because about 40 minutes of talking is just enough time to get too know each other without getting too overwhelmed. And I liked the support that having specific activities and question cards provided. It made things much easier than if you had to jump start a conversation on your own (also some questions were kind of philosophical and I got to shine a bit). Finally, at the end, each person wrote down the names of the people they would like to meet with on a card and gave it to the organizers (anonymously). And now they are supposed to let us know if we got any matches (like on tinder). I think it's a really cool idea because there is no fear, there is no embarrassment, there is no need to worry about being rejected or put into an uncomfortable situation. And that can be said about the whole idea of dating events like this in general. They remove all the anxiety related to cold approaching because everyone is there to date, you don't have to worry about bothering people or looking weird, etc. Sure, you might say that it will not develop you as much as a hardcore cold approach pickup practice. But I think it's really good for newbies who are just starting to learn how to socialize and need a safe space to practice. And also for people who don't care about personal development aspects of dating and just want to find a girlfriend / boyfriend.

I didn't say that it does. Crabs in the bucket. Suffering of existing people doesn't justify bringing more people in to take their burden.

@Emerald I will focus on the counter arguments, because like I've already said, everything else is noise and doesn't matter. I agree that global antinatalism to a point where everyone sits down and decided to go extinct is no realistic. And that trying to enforce it would also be disastrous. And also that people who feel morally superior because they are antinatalists and judge others for having kids are dumb. We don't have to argue about this. I am interested in knowing if the arguments I've mentioned for antinatalism are true or not. Agreed. And also doing something selfishly, doesn't mean that it's a bad thing to do. Robbing those potential people doesn't matter because they don't exist, they won't care if they would have enjoyed it or not. What matters is the opinion of people who do exist and who were brought here against their consent. And since on one side we have a lot of "potential people" who might have enjoyed life but whose opinion doesn't matter and a actual person who is suffering, and whose opinion matters because they exist, I could argue that we should prioritize playing it safe and not giving birth to anyone. I don't assume, they quite literally didn't consent. Unless we get into spirituality. If we stick to materialism, they didn't consent. None of them. Some of them happen to enjoy it here, some don't. What I am arguing is that you don't have a right to make that bet.

What you are missing here is that yes, in the short term people will suffer from lower birth rates. But this is a direct result of us being dependent on the infinite economic growth and not being able to redistribute wealth properly. It just highlights the bigger issue that we will need to overcome one way or another. It is super dumb that we are a 1000 times more productive per person then we used to be 200 years ago, but we still need to have positive birth rates to support ourselves and sustain the economy. It's literally a retarded. I don't count this as an issue with antinatalism.