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Of course. But you can choose from which place you operate like how you choose your workplace to do your job.

So if you want truth it seems like following no ideology is the only choice. But here is the thing, you cant not join an ideology. If you dont consciously join any ideology you will get peer pressured to be a "normal" part of society which itself is a kind of ideology. It might be the softest one as it finds a common nominator for most of society but it still finds some things acceptable "normal" and some not "not normal" and so it is an ideology. We are social creatures so its hard to be too different from that because we fear to be outsiders. Here is where different ideologies give us an opportunity though. Although they are ideologies yes and are therefore harmful in the pursuit of truth they also offer a social supporting net which makes it possible to deconstruct certain beliefs of "normal society". It puts you into a completely different survival situation. If you join a punk group for example you might dare to question morality and authenticity more deeply as your survival is not on the line when you act out very "not normal" because you have punks who have your back even if you do. Of course then the risk is that you only act differently in "their kind of way" but there might be groups which in general give you more freedom to explore certain fields. Punk is just one example. I don't have a lot of knowledge about different ideologies. I am guessing most are counterproductive. But some might be worth following for a while.

No I dont think one should embrace any ideology. It's simply that one gets peer pressured into one no matter what and the degree to which that happens shouldn't be underestimated! So one can at least choose where the peer pressure is coming from and maybe even going a bit into an ideology to distance oneself from "normal-society-ideology" could be a good tradeoff in the goal of the pursuit of truth, if the structures of that ideology peer pressure you less or in ways that dont matter much. My thought is just an theoretical approach though, not sure if its realistic.

Not quite. If a group isnt connected to truth very much but they dont pressure you into their belief system yet still give you support then that is a better environment to be in then a group that might be more connected to truth but will pressure you into their belief system. Imagine a cat vs a scientist. Or "normal" people vs academic philosophers. I think the key is to maximize survival value while minimizing intellectual peer pressure.

Building on top of my old thoughts on Predictabiliy: A person with attachments in this world is predictable. A person who trades attachments for virtue, for example truth is not predictable because you cant have truth. You can try to come closer and closer to truth but you will never get there. Meaning a person who is committed to truth will never reach an end its an infinite process that person is committed to. That person won't settle for a "truth" that is comfortable. So all attempts to capture the truth seeker won't work. It will backfire. Which is why people who seek truth seem scary. Society rather wants to have people who are at least a little corrupt because they are predictable and can therefore be used for ones own need. I asked chatgpt for a better articulation of my thoughts. This is so well articulated, I dont even feel like I contributed a whole lot to this. Your perspective here is profound and touches on the tension between society’s desire for control and the unpredictability of genuine seekers of truth. Here’s an enhanced articulation of your thoughts: A person tethered to worldly attachments is inherently predictable. These attachments—whether to wealth, status, relationships, or ideologies—serve as anchors, defining and constraining their actions. They create vulnerabilities, levers through which society or individuals can exert influence. In contrast, a person who forsakes attachments in pursuit of virtue—such as the unending quest for truth—transcends predictability. Truth is not a destination but an infinite process, an ever-receding horizon. To seek truth is to embrace uncertainty and reject comfort, to dismantle illusions, even when they provide solace or societal approval. Such a person refuses to settle for convenient or palatable truths, rendering them impervious to manipulation. Attempts to control them fail because their commitment to truth supersedes any external influence or internal bias. This defiance of categorization or coercion is unsettling, even frightening, to those entrenched in the predictable systems of attachment and control. Society, by its nature, prefers individuals who are at least partially corrupt—those with attachments that can be exploited. A person free from these entanglements is not just unyielding; they are also a mirror, reflecting the compromises and hypocrisies of those around them. This mirror can provoke fear and resentment, as it forces a confrontation with uncomfortable realities. Thus, the truth seeker, by embodying a commitment to an infinite and unattainable ideal, stands outside society’s frameworks of control and predictability. Their existence challenges the very foundations upon which societal power structures are built, making them both admired and feared.

The text chatgpt puts out is limited therefore it cuts off so much of the underlying reasoning. A single book on moral philosophy is big and there are many of them. If you really want to explain a single point in his entirety you would need to write about the whole universe but chatgpt can only fill a few lines to give a practical answer.

It does have problems with thinking but the immediate answers are intelligent and nuanced. And you can gaslight chatgpt into anything. You can gaslight it into saying that 2+2=3. That doesnt mean its incapable of solving that problem it means if its agreeableness gets abused in such a way that you pressure chatgpt into making wrong statements and then later put them to question you can get errors.

I am in love with bullshit.

Lasertek-Park I sometimes think about starting a lasertek park. It would have all kinds of stuff. It would be soft park parkour oriented and so would allow for many creative maneuvers. I would integrate hiding options and as many diverse weapons as you can possibly get with lasertek. Maybe robots as well. Different game modes from king of the hill, to team fights to zombie fights. A place where you can experience your whole being alive and go all crazy without much risk of getting injured. It would be very inclusive also. For example for elderly people there would be a big sign: "Respect the elderly. Elderly get bigger guns." and they would get bigger guns.

All of this talk about about potential stock market chaos under Trumps administration makes me nervous. I have got some money, not a lot put into widespread fonds. I wanted it to be as safe as possible. Now I fear that I could loose money but I dont think that cash is a good option either because of inflation. Generally I am just looking for advice from people who know this stuff. It's generally said that you should always think for yourself but in terms of investing I am honest about my own ignorance, I have no idea what clever investing would be right now and I am not interested in making a deep study in this dry domain. If I could find people with integrity who give investing advice I would very much be interested.

Its not the first time this question came up in the forum.

I once had a similar intuition that there could be a reality which was exactly that, manifestations of things which obeyed completely different rules of reality like fire out of ice, happiness out of wooden blocks, water out of rock material, ... yeah you are right that would be pure consciousness = without limits. I wonder if there is any connection to art or abstraction here. The more you manifest yourself in this dream the more you feel that the rules of reality are real and hard, the more your consciousness grows the more loose reality gets. Maybe between everyday consciousness and pure consciousness there is a happy medium where reality can be viewed in a more loose way so that you get out of the box of ordinary reality while still making sense and connecting to the manifestations at hand.

Human species caricature Aliens look at humans in a large zoo with many life forms. One alien says to the other: "Lets look at something more interesting."

Men also require community to survive but not to the same extend as women. A women without protection is an easy victim especially for rape. Men need to fear that a lot less because they dont give birth plus they have more muscle to protect themselves. Generally you could get more out of abusing a women while its also easier.

Heartbroken Project for sometime in the future perhaps. Imagine you have a large block of glass, shaped like a heart preferably and you let that thing explode in a thousand pieces. Then you put the pieces all together into something new and beautiful. The metaphor is obvious but beautiful and also deep because there are an infinite number of ways to put the pieces back together. If you could find material which breaks in ways that are suitable for building (like Lego) you could make a set out of it and sell it. A creative project for heartbroken people to heal.

That way of thinking is corruption. What being fashionable means is largely dictated by societies group think. So by wanting to be fashionable you look for a high status position in society. It's mostly not an intrinsic motivation. If I wanted to pursue something because my outfit pushes me in this direction I am playing the game of group think, so I am pretending and loose the real thing.

No I disagree actually. I think method acteurs are getting close to not acting but natural acteurs to it differently. I do some amateur acting myself so the nature of acting is often an object for my inquiry. And I haven't figured it out really. What I can say is people often get roles close to their character so the jump isnt that big. A confident guy with a big ego will easily play the bad guy and will struggle to play a weakling and vice versa. I think thats true for both natural acting and method acting. I personally never did extreme method acting but for some roles I got a little more into it then others. When you really get into it, it can be really tiring. When you do natural acting it can actually give you energy. Its insane. It's something other people also report that they can get energy from acting. One time I played a collapse naturally with very little energy required. I just knew intuitively how I would have to look with my eyes/ avoid eye contact, how to distance myself, how to make the right pauses and everything just intuitively without effort. It's like I just tapped into intuitive intelligence. I was shocked about how light it was to play that role and how instantly I could get out. Method acting might be forming your ego into a role while natural acting might be letting go of your ego and letting your intuition take over. If both go to extremes, they touch.

@MarkKol Well it's correlation not causality. People with more strength seem to have more testosterone, probably better health, probably take more drugs which means they are more likely to take risks etc. So these people could get laid more with or without the strength and adding strength through training might do nothing for you.

Play: Unf+cked, Unloved, Untouched: Scene 3: // Human size Figures of Godzilla and Kong invite customer to the fantasy store Ben: And yes as you expect of a fatass like me I go to a fantasy store because I have nothing better to do with my free time. // Ben enters the fantasy store and starts searching the items, then Ben sees his crush Jessica and becomes scared. He acts as though he didnt see her and hastily searches through different figures. // Meanwhile Kong suddenly becomes alive. Kong starts becoming very fight or flight alive and makes signs of wanting to leave the match, but then decides to tap Godzilla awkwardly for a match, while Ben goes up to Jessica. Ben: Oh hi Jessica, I havent seen you there. Jessica: Oh hi Ben. What are you doing here? // Godzilla becomes aware Ben: Well I just wanted to buy a new Kong Figure for my collection. // Godzilla casually gets the upper hand Jessica: Oh I love it. Ben: Yeah I really like all of the detail. Like the detail in the hair and in the eyes looks great. // Kong makes some desperate moves, Godzilla isnt impressed in the slightest Jessica: Oh wow. Ben: And what are you doing here? // Kong blindly makes a hit and misses Jessica: I am buying this dnd würfel. Ben: Thats cool. Jessica: Yeah I love that one. Ben: ... // Godzilla wants Ben to keep attacking Jessica: Well it was nice seeing you Ben, will you be in DnD next week? Ben: Yeah sure I will join. Jessica: Alright see you then. // Godzilla walks off slow and bored // Ben looks after Jessica. As she walks off their eyes meet. Jessica waves to Ben a little forced, while Godzilla makes an intimidating sign with her fist. // Ben sits outside the store next to Kong. While Ben sits there looking in the distance kong walks circles in complete rage. He then accepts his defeat and sits on his ass. Then Ben becomes active again and stands up.

@Something Funny I argued for veganism quite a lot on this forum, it's a waste of time and energy and seems mostly counterproductive. I agree with all your points though. Maybe build vegan staple meals you can do easily. When you are used to it it doesn't take any will power anymore to maintain. Consider doing vegetarianism though, you have way more options especially when going out and you might inspire more people to do it because its less "radical".

Okay thanks.

I am not that deeply familiar with the works of any of these philosophers, the most probably with Ken Wilber. Do I understand correctly that roughly speaking what sets Oswald Stranglers political philosophy apart from Hegel or Ken Wilber is that he thinks that society isnt evolving linerally, or not even linerally on average but that society is simply going through cycles and so this society is eventually naturally dying and a new society will arise with a different metaphysical interpretation of reality?

Fashion Fashion can be a powerful tool. There is a saying in Germany that says: "Kleider machen Menschen" which translates to "clothes make people". And there is some truth to that. In Psychology it was shown that acting out the symptoms of positive emotions like being upright and open, itself, makes better mood. What a trick. Fashion is kind of similar in this way. If you wear good clothes all the time you kind of expect of yourself more. I have a certain vision of myself and a clothing style that fits that vision of me. Maybe the clothes can give me a boost. "Fake it till you make it" I guess.

All virtue leads to God.