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It's different for everyone you should try both and see which effect it has on you. And in my experience they influence each other a lot. After lsd my psylocibin trips get more lsd like.

Thanks for sharing! I have something similar with like a sucking machine I recently got and which motivated me to make this thread. It shocked me how good that thing was even though there was still plenty of ways to improve it. I dont want to hurt a girls confidence when she won't come close to that machine. I think for most women they need more of an emotional connection for sex than men. Which is why men get more satisfaction out of sex toys.

These substances can evolve a lot. Psylocibin was light, fun, unclear and dirty at the beginning and after just tipping my foot in 5meo dmt and a bit of lsd it has gotten super deep and clear.

Maybe. Maybe not. I think in the hitler example that may be the case that it would be bad to kill in as a time traveler BECAUSE nobody killed him back then which means not enough people were wise enough so they needed that experience to wisen up. (I mean the collective and not the individuals of course) An analogous wrong approach to this would be fucking up your own life on purpose just so you can learn. If you fuck up your own life on purpose that means you knew better and there is no learning to gain. But if you know that there is an asshole which abuses people right now for example you live in a country with a bad dictator then it's good to fight against him imo.

I see.. If I had the aura of a Jesus Christ maybe that would work.

I personally wouldn't like to kill hitler because it would get me into trouble but I would feel obligated to do. So that's an inner conflict still within the selfish ego in your eyes (cause I am just feeding my hero ego for example)? Do you think your definition of morality is whole then or is it necessary to break out of it once in a while? My example with hitler seems like an example where your definition of morality falls short to deal with every situation.

Killing hitler or not killing hitler are both choices. Not choosing is a choice. Maybe Leo means that you are acting immoral either way. You could only act moral if you were god dreaming up not hurting anyone. If you dream to be a human there is nothing moral you can do but you can choose to make the most least immoral decisions possible.

I dont think I get it. My action in killing hitler would cause a lot less people to die so it would reduce the harm to others.

I heard that in experienced some people who just didn't have a set of morals because of upbringing for example and then experienced infinite love with a psychedelic suddenly just gained morality through that experience. Thanks for the question Leo, this style of teaching really speaks to me!

"All of morality boils down to reducing the harm your selfishness causes others." After your definition wouldn't it be moral to kill hitler to save a lot of people? (A): you selfishly want to kill hitler, that's morally also good. (B): you selfishly dont want to kill hitler, but it would be moral to do so otherwise you cause a lot of harm to a lot of people.

I love it as well. So positive. And it also connected perfectly with an idea I had on my blog. I love connecting pieces of the puzzle.

I agree with Davino and Max. Also iq doesnt measure consciousness. It doesnt measure your stage of development. It doesnt measure creativity. It doesnt measure work ethic. Just with these things you can be so much more ahead/holistically intelligent then most people with a high iq.

@Max_V thanks, I finally found that quote of Camus.

I finally found this quote from Camus again. Thanks @Max_V In the depths of winter, I finally learned that within me there lay an invincible summer. - Albert Camus Camus quote is analogous to my thought. It just focuses on a different facet of reality (like beauty, goodness, "invincible summer", ... ) which absolute perspective can be found when it's lacking in the relative perspective.

@ZenSwift Very compact and valueable wisdom, thank you! I can relate very much to your experiences. For me studying or any kind of preparation is very hard and without some events I am often very lazy. I was happy in a kind of way when I worked at a store. I hated the job but I always got it done and it pulled me out of slack into action. I am thinking very hard about integrating external motivations/ routines in my life like studying with friends but because I struggle with social life that's hard to do. What I can share which helped me with ADHD a lot was lowering digital stimulants. I dont use social media at all, I block YouTube completely (I can unblock it if needed so I still go and download some videos to not fall for the algorithm sometimes) and even block all music. That might sound harsh but the thing is that when you are sensitive to distraction a little bit can cause a lot of problems. Just listening to a bit of music on the side can cause me to be half as productive. When I was in the gym listening to my own music the workouts literally took twice as long.

I was diagnosed in life 4th grade. How have you redesigned your life that it better fits to your adhd lens?

Thanks! You point out a big weakness in my reasoning. I haven't acquired nearly enough knowledge to see society through a complex systems thinking lens so I guess this idea needs to stay in work.

Do we fear having societies problems solved? Like it is quite possible to solve societies survival problems in environmental causes, inequality, ... It will take time but it's very possible to solve most survival problems. (except dying after a healthy life ofc.) Maybe society knows that and at least partially creates new drama so that it never faces the situation of being problem free. Because that might be terrifying. I can only speak of personal inquiries and having no problems seems terrifying. So if that is the case, is it maybe necessary to integrate a vision of what we do when most problems are solved? A new kind of drama? Just so that we actually want to solve societies problems.

This is weird. I am so convinced in my own idea but nobody seems to follow. Perhaps I didn't explain enough or maybe the idea just isnt that good. I often overhype my own ideas for the day.

No I said it's possible and it would take time.

Yesss beautifully said. But in the context of humanity for example we really could solve all our basic survival needs. And at that point we could evolve into something different. We could either go on a fly to mars and do basically the same thing or we could consciously create our own problems, maybe in the form of play.

Please elaborate, I cant work with that.

True. I dont mean that these problems are easily solved but that we potentially could solve them. Thats very different from very other species on earth and completely against our paradigm of thinking.

Okay so if a complex-organizing system successfully overcomes all of its crude survival challenges, what does it do then?

Much comes from the stage orange mindset. If wealth contribution was more equal, if people lowered their living standards to the necessary, If cooperations tried to maximize their contribution instead of their income (throwing food away or building low quality products which will fall apart at some point on purpose), if more people would be more evolved and wouldnt do jobs which have no benefit on society (trading for example), if their would be less resource loss in conflict (wars), in short if we all were less selfish we would have plenty of resources to make a good living for everyone on earth I believe. People might just lack the vision how such a society could be like so they dont evolve towards making it happen.