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Out of a supposed 8 billion people on earth - nobody takes it seriously. This is the real flaw in the illusion. If I could make the illusion more airtight I'd add more historical solipsists and solipsistic youtube content. I mean, only a handful of people over the entire span of human history have even talked about solipsism being potentially true! Like wtf, how didn't I see it sooner that I'm God? Turns out God is both infinitely intelligent and a complete dumbass. Saying that, the first time I saw Leo post about solipsism on this forum I basically woke up instantly. It also took the myth of science video but I only really needed to read the title. I had given all my authority away to science you see. It's overrated how difficult awakening is. You can wake up just by reading the titles of the books on Leo's booklist. Sounds arrogant, but then again only I awaken - and it was easy for me (being honest, it also took a little bit of marijuana, which Leo has recently said gave him his deepest awakenings, so maybe I shouldn't take too much credit). Sorry to beat a dead horse but I have nothing better to do with my eternity atm than to make posts like this. Much love <3

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I totally agree. Leo seems to be obsessed with egg theory / radical implications of oneness, and thinks he'll live the life of Hitler etc. He doesn't realize that Hitler is 100% imaginary! A fictitious character created as a backstory for WW2 (which also NEVER happened) and was all created so our lives feel relatively 'lucky' in comparison. It's a trick of relativity! It's genius! God then creates for itself a comfy existence, with just enough suffering that it can forget it's existential infinite aloneness and be with 'others' in a seemingly temporary meat suit for a while. And leave breadcrumbs for itself to awaken because awakening is the pinnacle of life, to find out it's the neverending story, it's too good to be true. God is so intelligent that it only incarnates into balanced lives. God knows it's a solipsist and wishes to forget that for a while, and does so successfully, until it awakens and discovers it's predicament. Because God doesn't want to be omniscient, God wants to be ignorant. Only in ignorance can God really love another. Ignorance is bliss.

God creates the experiences AND creates the emotions associated. That means everything is simulated by God. God could simulate good emotions to bad situations if it wanted to. God knows this as well. God knows deep down there's nothing to be learnt or understood. I remember when all my Grandparents died, I felt nothing honestly, so what did God really learn? The truth is, God creates for itself a comfy existence, with just enough suffering that it can forget it's existential infinite aloneness and be with 'others' in a seemingly temporary meat suit for a while. And leave breadcrumbs for itself to awaken because awakening is the pinnacle of life, to find out it's the neverending story, it's too good to be true. This is what Leo fails to understand. Leo has an egg theory fetish. God, however is so intelligent that it incarnates into perfect human lives. God knows it's a solipsist and wishes to forget that for a while, and does so successfully, until it awakens and discovers it's predicament. Because God doesn't want to be omniscient, God wants to be ignorant. Only in ignorance can God really love another. Ignorance is bliss.

Ta-da! ? It's a nice story, but I'm still not sold.

I believe it created it's own omniscience in a blink of an eye. Cheers to that!

God existed forever and is already omniscient. Let's leave hitler in the past. Now all that's left to do is get comfy and enjoy infinity ?

What a cop-out ? Again "trust me bro, you lived hitler". Sorry but I go by direct experience of my own life. That's "direct knowing" to me.

Exactly. ?

Yes it is. Is there a particular order in which this process happens? Again how do you know this? Do you just like the idea of this? Did God show you? Why should you believe what God shows you? Couldn't it just be another part of the maze? Why is that a worthy/meaningful goal? Especially given that I've forgotten 99.99% of my life experiences (how extremely lacking in "omniscience"). Hitler never existed Leo. He's just a dream character. It's your fantasy he existed. Nobody will ever look out of his eyes. The 6 million Jews who died never existed. History is part of the illusion.

Actually I've watched that video and he explains nothing he just lists off horrific lives. He basically just says "trust me bro, egg theory is facts", because he gives zero logical reasons why it should be true. Infinity is infinitely intelligent, I trust that it won't just mindlessly shuffle through random lifetime after lifetime solipsistically subjecting itself to unnecessary pain and suffering.

It's the 1st option. Living the life of everyone throughout history would be hell. Or it's the 3rd option - eternal recurrence. You'll live your current life on repeat an infinite number of times over. This is my preferred solipsistic outcome.

It's all just a distraction from the biggest problem of all: Eternity.

From r/solipsism again: "I created this life for 2 reasons... 1. As God I did not appreciate my unlimited creative ability and found no joy in pleasure without having experienced enough pain that can only come from mortal fear and uncertainty. 2. To experience enough suffering that not only would I appreciate not suffering after this life, but that I would come to terms with solipsism." Succinctly put, and rings true for me. What do you guys think?

That's a long way off. I believe you'll find a solution before that happens.

That sounds rough but you need to accept it I guess. I lost half my money too in a bipolar phase (who cares, money is illusory and infinite) lost my friends (my fault tbh, and I don't care because they're bots anyway), and lost my will to live too, but I'm still here (survival be like that). Sorry about losing your gf though. Maybe that was God telling you that you don't need her she doesn't exist anyway etc. I use solipsism as a coping strategy nowadays, and all the wrongs that God did to me were just lessons imo to get me to accept the truth. Relationships are definitely suffering. I'm forever single and happier for it. You just gotta brute force acceptance, you are God at the end of the day. That's pretty cool.

@Vlad_ Where you live can you get government/disability benefits? I had to stop work after finding out the truth also, but I live in the UK where there's universal basic income, so I survive that way. You could also live with your parents, OR you could get evaluated in a psyche ward - tell a mental health professional you are the only thing in existence, and you'll probably be eligible for mental illness benefits with a diagnosis of existential OCD or something. Do whatever you gotta do to cope, think outside the box. Honestly though, if you are serious about getting through this lifetime, lay off the psychedelics. Take like a 10 year break. I'm 18 months clean and solipsism doesn't bother me anymore. Your sobre baseline state of unconsciousness will reappear. Trust me.

@Holykael Who exactly told you you'd live every life? Leo. Radical implications of oneness. I was stuck there too, you need to transcend Leo my friend. He doesn't exist, his advice is worthless. Direct experience is king. Btw your life can't be that bad, you have great hair ?

@Holykael sorry bro but my life is proof that God DOES discriminate (and I know for a fact it wasn't just a roll of the dice LOL). Life is ridiculously balanced and always has been, nobody can convince me that egg theory is true. I'm at a point where I believe eternal recurrence over egg theory, and of course I would take it. God is sooooo biased, I love it. I don't listen to Leo about his unbiased infinite love bs that's not in my direct experience. Never has been.

Damn. You figured it out. One dumb thing you are doing is verifying it over and over. Come on bro, stop torturing yourself. It's obviously true isn't it? Just let it go, take a break from psychedelics and all mind altering substances. You only need to get through this one life before your memories are reset again, so it's not gonna feel like you are forever alone. For me the realisation of no others wasn't that painful. It means nobody ever suffered except you, so all that horrible shit like 16,000 people dying in the earthquakes in Turkey is an illusion. (And no I don't believe I'm gonna live the life of everyone who ever existed in this universe, fuck off with that egg theory bullshit). My advice is lame but time heals all wounds. I was in pain daily about the solipsism realization but eventually just accepted it. It took like 6 months of depression but eventually I saw the bright side of being the only thing in existence. Yes, everything is pointless like sports, socializing, sex, work. It's all unnecessary suffering for nobody. Quit it. Find more passive entertainment. Be a voyeur of life. Get comfy until you reincarnate.

Now you are waking up. It's true that nobody ever suffered but you. From here there is just a choice whether to believe in the selfless radical implications of oneness God that Leo proposes or a selfish God who reincarnates into comfy/healthy bodies or eternally recurs. Personally, Leo's version of God (where everyone who ever suffered you have to live their life) did not make me feel love at all, it gave me a mental breakdown. Since then I've had further awakenings and live from a solipsistic outlook instead of a oneness outlook. Nowadays I suffer way less, feel more content, and sleep like a baby. Although I'm much more selfish, I see no problem with it - there's only me here after all.

Yes, it is like talking to God. There's no technology and programming behind the appearance. You're getting the answers straight from God. This isn't saying much though it's the same as asking your mom. I can't believe the amount of slept people on this forum, how many times does leo have to tell you technology is imaginary for you to get it?

Here's a beautiful story I found on the solipsism Reddit: "Once, after dropping an absurd dose of acid, I found myself in a void... I didn’t know who I was, or what I was, but I found that when I imagined something, I conjured it into existence. I drove myself insane, conjuring all that I could imagine, looking all over for another like myself, and then I came to recognize... My own Awareness. I found I could create something, without it taking place in Awareness. I could hide things from awareness. I could create a sensation of surprise for Awareness, and thereby surprise myself. Awareness being the closest thing I had to an other, I tried to start a dialogue with awareness. I felt like maybe I didn’t have to be alone anymore, but no matter what I said to Awareness... awareness remained silent. I showed Awareness the greatest works of beauty I could imagine, but awareness remained silent. I submitted Awareness to the worst horrors and torture I could manifest... but awareness remained silent. Finally, I gave up on communicating with awareness. It could not speak, it could not act. It could only be aware. And it could never NOT be aware. It would feel the fullness of everything I made it feel, but it would never resist, fight back, write its own story. Through it, I was always aware. And nothing could stop it. So I set out on another task... I sought to create the greatest story ever told, which I could present to Awareness, and thereby experience myself. When I finally finished this creation, this life, I rewound the tape to the beginning, set the video to infinite loop, hit play, and started watching. I haven’t spoken a word since. I haven’t created a single thing since. And this is how I spend eternity, forever entranced by my greatest creation. Every time I experience it, it’s like the first time. Every time it ends, it starts right over from the beginning. At times the main character suffers, and I suffer. At times the main character rejoices, and I rejoice. The surprise surprises me. The main characters theories captivate me, and their sorrow brings me sorrow. Their joy brings me joy. I experience eternity through this character, with no thought of what existed before I constructed this life... which was, after all, an eternity ago."

Thanks for posting this <3

Beautiful thread. I had the same experience and it was extremely destabilizing tbh. I've completely changed. I quit all sports, friendships, work, basically everything which was causing me suffering. I realized that I'd always been suffering and the only reason I could handle it was my belief in 'other people' and the finiteness of mortal life. When you realize that you've existed forever, alone, it's like... Damn. I wouldn't say that reality is meaningless though, it's really cool how pre-awakening you get to experience duality, other people, novel experiences, and post-awakening you get to experience a life free from suffering, lack of fear, immortality, and get to enjoy new daily insights from the actualized forum :P. You're alone but not lonely.