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Well we were suppose to get the entire Palestine Mandate and by the way they illegally cut 77% of the mandate and made a fictitious state called Jordan and our Jewish houses were demolished and removed. OK I bite it thats step one when we take Jews to our remaining site and we give them Palestinians to their side and we call it even and fair.

Israel is not the one colonizing. What are we colonizing, you are stating that Palestine was a flourish country once, but the fact is Palestine never existed until early 1960s for one reason only, to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. Really you are saying that 1967 territories are an obstacle to peace? Well what bothered the Arab world before 1967, why did they made a war in 1948, in 1956 and even in 1967 when they had the territories? I am sure its not the 67 territories that bothered them. What bothered Arabs to make pogroms in 1921 in Safed, 1928 Jerusalem, 1929 in Hebron, form 1936-1938 horrible programs, when there was no even state of Israel? I will tell you what bothered them, just the existence that there can be any state of any size or shape. I understand that and I respect their decision, but then dont blame us for acting the way we do. Honestly, from the bottom of my heart, I wish the Arabs of Israel well, elsewhere. God bless their 21 one ethnic Arab states that they have, we have only one state, not two or three but one state and I dont intend to loose it.

Lol, I will give you a very unpopular answer that you may not like but its true. God has been very kind to us and He gave us nuclear weapons. I think that tells you everything.

OK i gotta give you credit for that. But then don't blame us for doing what we do. This world is a jungle then i guess.

I personally do not condemn Israel for bombing, because that is how wars are fought. During WW2, when allied forces were bombing Dresden and Berlin, whom do you think they were killing, S.S. troops, generals? They were killing innocent civilians. When US threw an atomic bomb n Hiroshima and Nagasaki, wee you aware that those were civilian areas and not military zones. What I am trying to say is that you fight war with people. It is people who elect their government. Look war is a terrible thing, but sometimes its terrible necessary. When i was a young kid, I approached a surgeon once, and asked him a question, coming form a kid, how can he cut people with a scalp. He answered me that stick with me for the rest of my life. He said, "I have to hurt people in order to heal them".

@Nabdfirst of all, you should be proud of who you are, you don’t need to convert. To answer your question a person is Jewish either he or she is born from the mother or the sincerely convert. So, if you do decide to convert, you will be equally Jewish as I am. And hey, you never know maybe you’ll help me answer some items on this form.

@PurpleTreeThe first video you uploaded describes a very small group of 20-30 people who are on the payroll of PLO and they are not recognized in jewish world. Do you know that their children cannot attend Yeshivat. Now you want to hear an authentic Rabbi who does represent Judaism check out below. Your second video about Massiah, sounds more like conspiracy, but what I don’t know I won’t debate. Rabbi Kadouri was a mystic and interestingly he has many similar topics about the soul which Leo describes as consciousness. Honestly, listening to him when he describes outer world, I think that he had to try some psychedelics.

What I meant to say, is, if juice put the weapons, there would not be Israel, hence, we need to do anything to defend it. It is on the contrary, it is the spiritual fantasy as you call it, kept us alive. Indeed we lived as a minority among other nations and many other nations who did not had homelands totally extinct, you can only see them in museums and encyclopedias. We are on the other hand alive and well. We have a saying that “the more the Jews kept the sabbath, the more the Sabbath kept the Jews.

No that is not said in the Bible, that’s a text out of context. The Messiah will become king and build a temple that is what said in the Bible and (for weak minded people please do not read further) Israel will expand its borders from the river of Egypt (Nile) to the great river Euphrates (Iraq)

Thank you @Breakingthewall and @Twentyfirst I accept it as a compliment. You can see that I am sincere and honest person and do not have back thoughts. You may be right. Listen we Jews always had hardship so nothing new under the sun. They say the more things change the more they remain the same. Again going back to Bible, it says clear there, that as long as Jews would sin God would punish with calamities, once Jews embrace God’s commandments then they would live in peace. I am not going further in it but that is the main point. Whether we agree with the Bible or disagree it keep proving itself over and over, I don’t know what to say to this but burning it off, I also can’t. I never said I want to see war, every person wants to live in peace, it’s just I know if we put down weapons tomorrow we will not exist. It’s self survival here at stake. Why I am on this form? I do a lot of self development and actualization. I listen to Leo’s lectures and I truly understand them, I really appreciate the depth of his wisdom where many of you here actually don’t and I see most people criticism of Leo’s work by the way. Now I don’t mean you personally but people on this forum. Leo does say very wise stuff and I don’t mean to suck up, I can appreciate deep and thorough depth of human consciousness. To be honest I have not found such depth anywhere else and tell you the truth it has to do with using psychedelics form my opinion as they truly open up a person.

Well neither are we. We are not going anywhere whether you like it or not. This land was promised to us by God, so we’re staying here. We don’t need any more land. Indeed, if we were to make a land somewhere else, it would fail, why, because that’s God‘s decision, and not ours. I’m not speaking as a religious fanatic, historically, I see that divine power is way above this whole thing. There were some crazy individuals before the state of Israel was born, and they wanted to make state somewhere else, some in South America, some in Africa, some in Europe, but every time it failed, and in only succeeded in the land of Israel. Like it was prophesies in the Bible menu thousand years ago. How will you beat that fact?

Then you don’t know anything about Judaism. First of all, we were kicked out of Israel, 2000 years ago by Roman‘s, and second of all for three times a day, every single day we prayed to return to Zion. For every holiday, we added additional prayers to return to Jerusalem. So you can see we do not have ties it was something embedded in us. In addition, many Jews did come to settle throughout middle ages and especially in the beginning of 20th Century wave before the word Palestinian even existed.

I would love to do the swap, the other way let’s build Palestine in United States and leave Israel alone. Or built Palestine in Saudi Arabia that has a lot of land, mostly uninhabited and speaking on behalf of Israel we will be more than happy to compensate for all the properties.

@AerisVahnEphelia Thank you for the message. I want to give you a compliment that so far on this forum your message is the only message coming from an enlightened person, while everyone is throwing biases back and forth. And I see that you are truly actualized and spent many hours watching Leo’s videos and working on yourself. You may be correct to some point and probably in some idealistic case scenario it would work. But you need to understand that self survival here is at stake and when survival is concerned, all intellectuality goes down to drain. It’s like meeting bullies on the street and you need to fight to survive. Now a wise person may advise not to step down to their level, but if you don’t step down to their level, you may end up stepping six feet down. If you know what I mean. You need to speak the same language as otherwise you will not be understood. Personally about me, at some point I was very religious person, doing enlightenment work moved me from stage blue to stage turquoise (sorry for not being humble but I am saying here for purely description purposes only) of course I also went through all stages in between not saying that I skipped, I went through all. The more I try to move away from the Bible the more it moves with me. Maybe it is something embedded in me but there is so much truth in it, that a lot of things there are true. It’s not something to brush off. Going to recent conflict. You may call me bias and I will admit I am, the most important is to be honest and thankfully I posses this character. Israel is also a survival for me. I can be all enlightened and etc, but when you go to bar in the suburbs in the United States and hear what comes out of the mouth of people when alcohol comes in, I quickly realized the danger for Jews in America and I heard really bad things such as blaming Jews for controlling the money, controlling the government, various conspiracy theories and much more which I won’t even go into here. So when majority have such attitude I have to worry about my self survival. And I will be honest with you, when push comes to shove, all people no matter what spiral dynamics they are, fall into beige level of just pure survival.

You are right, and we can have million arguments back and forth but the truth is this land can host only one state. You can give reasons and debates and talks but you need to understand something, Middle East and is not Middle West. Here different rules apply. This is a very small silver of land and hosting two states is impossible, they would not be viable to survive. Because if there is Palestine then there is no Israel. Why do you think this conflict is so hard and all solutions given are too simple. It’s not a Hamas vs Israel or it’s not even Palestine vs Israel, it’s a Jewish vs Arab conflict that is way deeper than that. And I will be flat with you, Israel will not create Palestine because that would be an end to Israel. Have you seen even the regional map of Israel, it’s not possible to geographically to make continuity if you do divide into two states. For example Gaza today cannot exist as a state, it needs to receive so much financial aid and that’s why it’s so poor and people are so frustrated there.

@Merkabah Star I am not labeling antisemitic those with opposing ideas, I am labeling those who compare us to nazis or saying we have no right to exist. It’s all same as was said thousand of years ago, nothing new under the sun. As fas as civilians getting hurt, what can I say, those are the rules of engagement and war. Any was is bad, people will always get hurt. And you can be sympathetic to it, that’s perfectly fine, but we need to finish the job.

@Nabd with friends like you, no one needs enemies. No Judaism is not similar to Islam at all. We differ in culture, religion, ethnicity, language and you name. I am not sure what Semitic person you are, but you need to really research history taking facts from media. And I am not sure about founding fathers what you mean and whom do you refer to. The Israel’s truly founding fathers were the biblical ones Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Now if you cannot find a different between Israeli and a Nazi, your moral compass is very perverted and there is very little to do with you. When a Jew lived in Germany, they wanted to become the best citizen of Germany, indeed many Jews stopped even identifying as a Jew and called themselves Germans of the mosaic persuasion. A Jew never went to bomb German places and never did they say that one day we will make Germany Israel. So there is absolutely no comparison here at all. The Arabs do say that they want entire Israel to be Palestine and they do commit terrorist stacks and aim at civilians. And we did not conquer anything. First Israel was always Jewish Land it says in the Bible. Then the League of Nations which later was ratified by United Nations recognized the state of Israel. So you should know Israel was never that small as today, in early twentieth century when the Middle East was divided we were suppose to get march larger land, whatever is Israel and Jordan. But they illegally cut off 77% of the Palestinian mandate and made fictitious state called Jordan by the way at that time only two countries recognized it was England and India. But whatever, it is what it is and now Jordan is a country. But the remaining 23% is ours and will keep it. We always really go back to bible where we have our founding fathers and what they said. As far as recent day politicians, they come and they go, we pay much less to them.

I am reading the posts and I truly see how antisemitic people are here, despite their enlightenment practice, or maybe they are not. To answer question, did you know that Jews were expelled historically from 80 different countries. And some were twice and more than that. Did you know that living amount other nations we experienced such gifts as crusades and inquisition and pogroms and Holocaust. Thank you dear world but no thanks at the same time. We need to have a safe heaven that when things become bad we have a place to go. You may say that we have civilized places like America. And you are right that America is not Germany. Did you know that one time Germany wasn’t a Germany neither, of all the places in the world Germany was a civilized nation. All it does is to take some catastrophe such as an economic clash, and Jews become the scapegoat. So we need a safe heaven. And even now the antisemitism is rising. Hope I answered you that question. The answer question is, we Jews care for each other. When the oriental Jews as you call, were expelled from Arab countries we accepted them and made them equal citizens and they all blended within society. Does not matter they were from east, west, north or south. Today it’s pretty much blended and they became one people. I would not say one is more than the other, there are a lot of mixes and so on.

Look everything can have a solution even a temporary one. It may not sound so politically correct but we need to understand that Middle East is not middle west, our understanding of principal and morality cannot be applicable there and should not be, it’s just different mind set and philosophies and we should respect it and accept it. Let’s be honest, two peoples cannot exist on one land. It’s not like a huge land, it’s a size of the state of New Jersey. One has to be relocated. We can force and read morals and pay and bribe but at the end of the day it will only be blood shed and death. You can’t force love if it’s not there and you need to understand you have people who differ in every aspect there is, in race, ethnicity, language, religion, culture and etc. Thats the reality, I just do not see any other solutions. And frankly I don’t think there are even any. A lot of times I think maybe the Bible is correct that speaks the final war will happen over Jerusalem.

Sorry I have been out for a month but for the past few month I have not seen any new videos posted by Leo. Do you know if everything is ok with him? Maybe there was a general response but I could not find topic thread on that.

Thanks so much. Its just I like to listen to his lectures on the way back home when i travel far for work purposes, I had number of his lectures saved and caught up to all of them.

Robert F Kennedy Jr. is a true old fashion Democrat. Today Democratic Party is very mixed with different kind of ideologies altogether what I like about him is that he is very close to initial democracy principles, the same ones. His uncle was today Democratic Party is very different and have been taken over by others. That’s why the party itself in a big mess.

I agree with Leo banning guns will not stop shooting. Besides, those who really won the shoot will find a way, so that is not the answer. Actually, someone researched and found out that most shooters, especially recently were an anti-depressants so this may be a cue. Guns became so political that one body defends them, and the other party attacks them, and no one really cares. Why shooting happens, notice how political this topic is, people just quickly, jumping to take sides. No, no one spoke about antidepressant. So this is the question are we depressed too much? Maybe curing depression can be the answer to people stop shooting.

Of course we can get super political and of course this entire idea can be usurped by private companies and even countries, even by politicians. But my take was more for human development, assuming it’s all done on innocent level and assuming it will be done for the benefit of humanity. Without career and jobs, what are we to do in this world?

This is not a political tread. There are a lot of information about AI in both negative and positive, such as certain organization are there to have world dominance and etc., but this is not what this thread is about. I was at the religious event, and the person spoke about Bible and AI that made me think a lot actually and want to share with you. First to start with the biblical perspective, a person mentioned of Adam and Eve, when they were created, and lived in the Garden of Eden and ate the forbidden fruit, which, after God cursed Adam with hard labor to all his generations to come. Apparently somewhere else in the Bible it says that any curse will come to an end at one point in time or another. Going back to AI, the idea is that eventually it will phase out all human labor, that robots will be doing all the work for us. So the curse of labor will eventually end. just think what will happen to humanity, at first half of humans will be at each others throat, because labor or career is an integral part of humanity. Career or a job that we do is a significant part in our life, notice when we speak to people or when we meet people, or when we date people will always talk about our work, what we do for a living and what are our achievement or Career or a job that we do is a significant part in our life. But if that is taken away, in a healthy way, what we are to do with our lives. The deeper question is, when God created Adam, or the human, what was their purpose. Doing a very deep research, limited only to Bible at this moment, the purpose was to connect to God. Of course, if you ask a religious fundamentalist, they will tell you to follow the Bible, be kind to people and etc. but listening to actualized.org and others, I feel that connecting means to be part of the Univrse, of universal consciousness and the God that Leo speaks off. Maybe the way the human was created for, and at that time, the human wasn’t ready so she had to be curse to work since initially a human was at a very low development level, but now the humanity did develop significantly and maybe we are ready to strip ourselves off the professions. Deep topic that made me think a lot. I can admit both myself, and I’m sure most here are as well, even if you take a very long vacation at some point you still miss your work. Work is embedded in our lives, and at this point it is part of who we are, but was that the point of creation?