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That's the point. If you don't think your subconscious is outside of your mind, even though you accept it exists, accept it must be a conscious process of some sort, yet can't directly access it, why would another person's mind be different? The only difference is that there appears to be physical distance. If only your mind exists though, space is a hologram and distance doesn't exist, meaning there can't be any distance or spatial division between things. It's just that I think "your" mind in its totality is "God's" mind. Your conscious and subconscious is part of God's mind. Perhaps consider all of our conscious minds God's subconscious, and all of our subconscious minds God's sub-subconscious (ha).

The subconscious is a conscious mind that the regular self can't access directly. The fact there are multiple conscious minds in their own mind proves that it's possible for there to be an inaccessible conscious process. Our selves to them are inaccessible conscious processes (they are not consciously controlling our words) just like what they call their subconscious. No space means the physical distance between our selves and their mind is 0 and equal to the distance between their conscious and subconscious (also 0). Dream characters have autonomy from the conscious dreamer unless the dreamer becomes lucid. The sub is acting autonomously and it is conscious and has knowledge. So do others. So the others have a conscious process and autonomy. This is the distinction between solipsism and nonduality because both propose one mind. Solipsists believe their own conscious relative self-mind is all that exists but because of the subconscious it evidently isn't. If you accept the subconscious exists you have to accept "other" minds.

The lack of free will helps as well. Anything you fuck up on you were always going to fuck up on. It was unavoidable. Same as missing out on something.

You don't know for a fact that there isn't. You are talking about something legitimately unknowable.

You can definitely prove beyond doubt certain elements of the experience as being genuine. You cannot prove that there is NOT an external material world (with awareness being produced by the brain), but you can prove the logic is stronger. That is as far as it can go. I would like to be able to prove it but you can only make a "best guess".

I don't believe that, I feel very sure there is absolutely no rhyme or reason. I have had full ego death there was no me or life left to matter to anything or anyone.

Yes I think so too. Upon death everything and everyone is identical so what a waste of time?

You will go into psychosis like Connor Murphy if you keep using hallucinogens. Discussing Jesus or, especially Satan, is a strong indication of schizophrenia and susceptibility to psychosis.

The best feeling that could ever possibly felt, could never make up for the exact opposite. The fact of existence is terrible on those grounds. Was just reading about vivisections performed on live humans in Japan etc. messed up experiments. And what if other sentient beings in the universe are able to feel stronger pain than us? How bad can bad get? That will always outweigh the happy or blissed out feels that are possible on the other end.

I am here because I had the realization solely through experimentation with heavy psychedelic drugs. I am not enlightened at all but I have a good grasp on the philosophical standpoint because it was something I felt directly on those compounds. I never had a religious or philosophical view prior and never searched inwards etc.

@PepperBlossoms I think they already exist. Both forwards and back. Outside of time infinity happens instantly, from outside of time the end of the universe has happened. From inside it seems eternal. It is much like being stuck in The Jaunt (Stephen King short story).

You know how flickbooks work? Every page exists you just flick from front to back and see an apparent moving object. Wherever you are in that book, the other pages exist just as much. Memory allows for humans to survive and replicate through the apparent motion.

Well DMT has been incredibly troubling for me a number of times, Salvia was not it was just overwhelming. I pray there is no DMT afterlife for that is hell.

@Kuba Powiertowski It does not matter it is too late. Enough atrocities have been carried out already, recently with ISIS but on a larger scale in WW2 and undoubtedly in ancient history. These events are occurring in the now since time is illusory. it does not matter whether I am aware of any Absolute because 99% of people were not when they were dissected alive etc. All they knew was agony and fear. And that is imprinted and existent eternally, and that is what all of us have to endure since we are them. I am you. You are me you are they etc.

I have felt the impression that schizophrenia is abundant among people drawn to these beliefs. I see a lot of psychiatric hospital admissions. If the mind is not functioning right you need to question your own thoughts.

I have anxiety disorder. I have found in myself, LSD suppresses anxiety and causes dissociative effects. 4-AcO-DMT and 4-HO-MET caused a similarish inability to feel good/bad emotions at all, I could not tell if I was enjoying the trips or not. DMT on the other hand often gave me nightmare tier trips. Salvia I'm good with... Chemical roulette.

@Gregp Well it is still part of whatever identity he had carved for himself at the time. Quite a strong one at that (we see the prominemt speaker he has become). I think he is a man in denial of what he really wants to think or explore. To think of religious shit or something would crush his entire identity. It is clear what ideas he wishes to explore when he interviews Spira etc. It's like vicarious thinking lmao.

There appears need within the confines of this slither of reality we call spacetime. Without eyes the ego self does not know of the existence of sights and colors and so on. I do not see it as contradictory. As soon as space time is here (t=0) then relative to this spacetime all rules of science and physics apply. Where the content of a subjective experience comes from is where to look, rather than the brain correlates and organs necessary for the ego body to sense them. Note: When my ego self loses eyes I no longer see. But seeing continues because it exists in you. When my ego self loses its brain or dies it ceases to exist but consciousness continues because it exists in you. So "I" never stop ceasing to experience these things but little-I does. And that makes little-I a saaaaad panda

@Leo Gura I think Sam Harris is just in heavy denial. He's spent an entire lifetime as an intellectual atheist arguing alongside great speakers like Christopher Hitchens etc. Now he is a full-blown mystic and refuses to acknowledge it even to himself. A good thing though - he is a good olive branch to the materialists of the world. Through him they can feel okay about looking inwards and be introduced to Spira and so on.

@Consilience That was a very thorough response, much appreciated mate, thank you.

@Consilience When I say nothing happens I mean literally NOTHING at all. After 30 minutes of it, I feel identical to normality. Is that expected and part of the process? And if it is, then the video is silly because how could Sam not expect this to be the result?

@kieranperez I mean that, like Dawkins, nothing at all happens when I meditate. Unlike Dawkins I have experienced nondual states via drugs. So I know what it is. But even knowing of the divide I'm meant to replicate, I cannot do it sober. AT ALL. Harris's suggestion to use LSD is probably a good one.

@kieranperez That is what happens when I meditate. Some people legitimately can't separate the subject and object. I KNOW what it feels like and what I'm searching for (thanks Dimitri) and STILL can't do it awake. I don't even bother to meditate sober and awake because nothing happens like with Dawkins. It works in lucid dreams though...

I beg a person use n,n-DMT before 5-MeO lol. Doubt it makes any difference once in the trip, but fuck going right to that from acid if it's stronger than n,n. I've not used 5-MeO so just from what I've heard.

It is easier to feel the boundless nature of awareness when inside a lucid dream. Upon waking the human senses kick in hard and create a strong sense of confinement to the physical body. Dreams are out of body experiences (you can't feel your physical body during them) so when you focus inwards there's nothing to confine the size of consciousness, and you can feel it accurately. I recommend meditating inside lucid dreams.