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This entire forum should be renamed Narcissists.org. Srs. Every other poster has narcissism or is a sociopath. The rest are the weakest of the weak being perpetually scammed and mind-altered. Every time one of these weak people trip it just so happens to magically align with whatever Leo's latest teaching is, down to catchphrases. All these weak people, I guarantee are the same suckers scammed by Tai Lopez, Tony Robbins, RSD, etc.

@Kksd74628 LOL.

Yes just a few more posts until one of the narcissists decide to lock it as per usual, then go jerk themselves off.

While a person is THAT high their ego is legit erased. When they sober up it's exactly as bad as before.

I'd care, you got legit SCAMMED out of nearly 10K. Scammed. This entire industry is a scam joke. You coulda just done a good bufo ceremony in Mexico or w.e. and immediately be wiser than Leo and all these people (until you sober up ofc).

LOL what?! You gave that dude thousands of dollars? You got outright scammed. Lol at spiritual people. Just lol. What a scam industry this is damn.

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He can't be, any character is an appearance. When the character talks about the experience, every word and metaphor etc is an appearance too... I do think it can be described quite well, but when a person says a word that word is of course an appearance. So when Leo comes down from his high (really, smoking 5-MeO-DMT would yield best results, but risky yes), he's the character again. The character is gone when one is """fully awake""". Really full awakening might be the death of the character, as even in extremely altered states breaking through on DMT or w.e., there's still finitude involved in the contrasting appearances. Rather than seeing literally everything in that infinity like sensory data other creatures have that we don't etc.

I moderated a forum, it was an extremely easy role, for dat dere power. The constant thread locking is embarassing.

Legit, most of his pals have turned Judas on him ITT.

Before that too. There is more ego here than on steroid bodybuilder forums like UK-Muscle, which is quite funny. Enlightened people have higher egos than anyone else on the entire planet.

AKA always. I have been on many forums, in my ENTIRE LIFE I have never seen any board with as many locked and deleted threads etc. Never. It's even more severe than the blue boards on 4chan.

@Jahmaine The disciples are legit embarassing themselves, lol. They even copy the catchphrases.

There is no Nahm. Demotion is just a concept. No demotion so nobody to demote. Namaste. Prayer emoji heart emoji. Edit: Buy my one on one coaching. Just $150.

I KNOW the self is just a bunch of changing appearances. It doesn't seem to change anything to know this... I don't mean in the Leo sense of "my last awakening was BS, THIS is the real absolute truth this time I swear" every week. I mean I know. Definitively. And this is something you can also see discussed by materialists like Sam Harris. It's just an undeniable truth. The self seems to be more like a pattern of activity rather than anything static and concrete. As well as the storybook built off of memories of past events. But behaviorally speaking, it seems pattern based. I don't think we really control what emerges and whatever else. Thoughts and actions, whatever, just unfolding...

Well this is what happens when someone just straight up stops explaining what relative and absolute reality is, and starts mixing and matching definitions of self, you, etc, in their videos. There's NO REASON to not explain relative truth even briefly in a 3+ hour video. People on this very forum have done so in one or two sentences. It's very easy indeed. "I" am the only one who can awaken. If I don't explain what that means, it could mean either I (as "God"), or it could mean my ego self, whatever else. If I don't explain what is meant by that, lunatics are obviously going to butcher it instantly. It is not just people who are "afraid" to find the truth or whatever. If misunderstood a person can look forward to a constant Mexican standoff where everyone claims THEY are the conscious one and they KNOW it, and everyone else is lying. If you see yourself in the mirror, you know the person inside the mirror is not aware. The awareness of that person inside the mirror is - well - sober it feels "behind" you, maybe behind your eyes or something depending on what you are doing.... When another person is seen, their awareness is similarly not inside the avatar of them. It is in the same spot which probably feels to be behind you. Ancient Vedic texts have explained this better and in greater depth. Nondual traditions actually use their own language sometimes because English does not have enough words. We have one word "I" to refer to physical body, mind, ego, all at once. In Sanskrit there are plenty of additional words to ensure what is written is specific to what is meant...

Your mind is being warped badly by some lackluster teaching. Your ego has taken over the idea of what "you" means because you have not experienced ego dissolution. Based on previous posts.

@SQAAD Well Leo also said to go by personal experiences. All of mine have been extremely Vedic, which is that all is Brahman, but they do have an "Atman". Atman IS Brahman. Brahman is without attribute. Buddhist "Sunyata" yes, and the obvious changing of all form including all forms which constitute my ego. But very heavily Vedic... I find Rupert Spira's discussions are closer to helping me relive and understand what I experienced. I find Leo's discussions to get to me more on an intellectual level. I definitely identify when he talks about nothingness though. I wonder what your own experiences tell you?

Yup words in any scenario are only descriptors. No blind person has seen red by hearing descriptions of it. Or experienced riding a rollercoaster by hearing about it. A strange guru spin is usually put on this to make it seem purposefully confusing, so by extension the guru can feel "wise" or w.e. Or to make it seem like this is some thing way outside of you that only they, as the master sages they are, are in contact with... Even the most ego-veiled beings are experiencing beingness. All appearances are a modulation of beingness. Blah.

Welcome to the billion dollar self help industry. Tony Robbins: "Hey guys welcome to my seminar-" Random Fan: "-OMG MY LIFE IS ALREADY CHANGED! THANK YOU TONY! TAKE MY $100,000!" Lol. As a marketer myself, I think Leo would get better conversions by offering an upsell. Get the suckers in with something like, $247. Then the mega advanced "THIS IS IT" final awakeing super saiyan deluxe upsell for $697. He'd capture leads from the first sale which he could hammer with an autoresponder with advertisements for the deluxe upsell.

@softlyblossoming

My grandma died in agony BUT at peace with death. She said the day she died that she had a dream, when asked what about, she said the crucifix, and giggled. Then fell back into delirium. But apart from that the death itself was okay for her. My mom died okay except for great distress over me, as I was at the time 14. I did not see this my grandpa was the only one with her. My uncle just collapsed dead. Got up to go lie down in bed and just died on the spot. No time for freaking out just done. I myself almost died twice. The first with meningitis as a child. The second blackout down a flight of escalators. In both cases it was sudden and I would not have known if I just straight up died. With meningitis the moment of panic was so brief and my main focus was on quicklg calling out goodbye to my family. You can also search AskReddit for many many stories from nurses and hospital staff. SOME patients freak out, but many really don't. Or just drop dead so suddenly they can't even react.

@WokeBloke Just that the objection to it being a dream usually revolves around ideas of control, limitation, etc. You aren't really controlling your mind or body. If really inspected, your own thoughts, desires, and actions are also just unfolding. You don't choose a thought before you think it. It's just the same chaotic neverending creation process. The only discernible difference between a dream and reality is that. Otherwise, assumptions about "thing-ness" (i.e. some sort of material "substance") existing without perception are demonstrably false and impossible. There's even a qualified neuroscientist on YouTube (Dr. James Cooke) who uses 5-MeO-DMT and such, and does mention the same. It's not just mysticism but a clear and obvious fact... If you start with the obvious that in a world where every creature is blind, the phenomenalogical quality of "red" just does not exist. The visual phenomena of shape etc. does not exist. ALL forms are perception. You might think of the "noumenal" world, like Plato's cave. But you would not say that world made of - for example mathematics - is made of little "math-atoms". Math is not a tangible "thing". The real world is exactly "like" what you would perceive if blind and deaf etc. Because being "like" something is reliant on perception. The way things REALLY look outside of perception is like nothing. It sounds like nothing. Tastes like nothing. Etc... No substance. Or think of high school biology. How does sight work? Photons enter your eyes, your brain converts it to an image, and you see the image. You only ever interact and experience the hallucinations of your own brain. Which is exactly what a dream is...

You the self has no control over this, nor does it have access to everything. Leo is presently teaching in a WEIRD and confusing manner, but you see how he says in the newest video that "reality is just unfolding and he's riding the wave"... Well that is it, the sense of control is false. Reality is just unfolding. That is something he is acknowledging, yet teaching what to me feels like a desire-based idea. As opposed to the chaotic and unstoppable force of pure spontaneous creation... You literally cannot STOP creating. Try it. Even as a "self". See the moment you stop creating (random thoughts, images, sounds) you cease to be conscious. That is how it looks from the outside. First person, you never experience a break in this non-stop manic creation. When people talk about dropping concepts etc, really it's just this fancy bizarre "guru" way of explaining the obvious fact that describing what seeing red looks like will never be the experience of seeing red. You don't experience riding a rollercoaster by hearing about it. It's nothing more confusing or mystical than that... The "mystical experience" is a state one enters, and words to describe that state, just like ANYTHING ELSE like describing riding a coaster, is not going to be the state itself.

A lot of people manage to make it to the end of a pretty normal existence, and pass without event. That's probably ideal. In ancient Asia, living conditions were probably appalling and trash, and "spirituality" was part of culture. If a man went and meditated in a cave for a few months he'd have a bunch of followers. Now such a person could not really connect with an everyday person. You can't really understand people's egoic desires etc. and thus can't connect with them. It feels weird as fuck. Probably is why monks actually go and live in isolation in the mountains or whatever. I doubt it's possible to be completely dissolved into "there" and still be functional. For a monk even, they are as "there" as a random murderer. "There" removes all aspects of selfhood such that anything remaining is equal; any element of selfhood like being a spiritual leader, murderous dictator, whatever else, is literally gone. Completely and totally gone. And of course when the entire mask is gone, the same exact "being-ness" remains, unadulterated by self. I can't imagine being in a state like that and like, pumping iron at the gym, getting stylish haircuts, chatting up women at bars, discussing sports cars, etc. Lol. I mean I can't really imagine even reading books or whatever other "peaceful" activity. But our societies are built around commercialism and ego.