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That's important, I think. Don't resist even resistance... Just observe reality unfold, negative emotions included.

Well, my family died when I was 14... But look at the survivor of the Lin family massacres, out living a great life, so it's on me. It's not really related to the thread though, the meaning of "love" as non-resistance would be in line with what appears to be true metaphysically.

That would make sense, as like peace, non-resistance is a default state.

Lol. Well why I mention it, is that something that is fundamental to reality, ought to be omnipresent... If something can appear in absence of sensations of love, then it's not omnipresent. On the other hand, awareness is omnipresent... Brahman "without qualities", I think that's more in line. Some "qualities" are just the absence of a feeling. Peace is an example, there's no such emotion as peace, it's just the lack of anxiety. There may be more things like that.

@BenG I mean it feels bad to say, but I don't really, no... I care about people etc, like I said I'm not a psycho or actual reptile. But my ability to feel that is muted.

I don't really feel this emotion at all...... I'm not sure what it means. What do people mean by it? I'm not a literal total psychopath. But I barely have any capacity for this feeling. As would happen if a gecko smoked some 5.

Use some common sense... Any being that is aware of you, must itself be aware. Only awareness is aware of anything. Of you, and the other "being" looking at you or w.e.

Is it in da skies? No it's a feeling deep inside. Because I'm hungry? No you're lonely! I can see it in your eyes... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sXOdn6vLCuU

I don't think I fully explained well enough. I think you might want to try this book "Refuting the External World" by Goran Backlund: https://amzn.eu/3xGJsmp Which should help with the understanding of what is "out there" (meaning the true face of matter, etc, which of course your brain is made of). And material can be thought of as almost a computer GUI. So obviously if you click an icon on your computer it will directly relate to an event, but the icon is itself just an appearance which represents the computer code underlying everything. The icon isn't causative, but directly representative. And you should find that the brain is the same. It represents the experience of being human... Hence you can distort that experience entirely by messing with its representation. The material and mental world are entirely singular. So it is not that there is not matter, it is about what matter actually is. That is the understanding I think someone is meant to reach.

Friendly reminder... We are in a void as such, interacting with avatars which represent different elements of THE mind. I remember an acid trip, where several personalities, all distinct, arose in me. They spoke to each other. All with different opinions and voices (which I know I have mentioned a lot, happened to be the cast of Friends). It reminds me of that... And it reminds me in turn, of the bottomless pit scene from Gravity Falls where they're chatting to each other in a void........ How interesting to simultaneously be manifestations of something singular while being a distinct character........

Oh yay, finally, something I can answer. Right now, you assume your brain is creating the images etc, and your thoughts. So assume for now that is true, ait?... But what you actually believe is the most fundamental element of what you are, is not the images and thoughts but the element that observes those images and thoughts. So you don't think you are a thought, because you don't think you will stop existing when your current thought ends. You don't think you are eyesight because you don't believe you'd stop existing if you went blind. And so on and so on... The sights, thoughts, sounds, and things you think your brain is generating, are the CONTENT of awareness. These things can morph around, while you will always remain as the backdrop... What is the backdrop? The backdrop is "empty", it is inherently itself nothing... See: Imagine losing every sense one by one. Eventually you may imagine yourself in a black void devoid of thoughts or feelings. But black is visual. It is a color. Your table doesn't see black, nor do people born blind. So remove the black. What's left? Nothing. That is what you are right now, get it? NOT the content that you think your brain generates (I won't refute that rn, it's not necessary), but the literal nothing that all of that content appears within. Uhmmmm... I feel like I'm missing something... But I was going to angle at the fact that it does not make logical sense that nothingness could be created or destroyed.

If one of your ideas is relative in nature, and testable, then you can see if you're just wacko. If you think you can cure people of cancer and blindness etc, then you will find out pretty quickly that you have in fact, lost the plot. Some things are logically proveable etc. And then there is the definitive type of truth... You don't need experiments or science to show you that you are aware and that things are appearing. This type of truth is self evident and absolute. It cannot be superceded or denied, it does not require logic or experiments.

You can become directly conscious of their healing energies coming through the camera and curing you of all your ails... It cured my monkeypox immediately.

@Gabith She sounds wack-a-doodle-doo. I understand her, but she's largely not explaining things very well when it could be done. I would certainly be elaborating on the part about nobody being inside your body, I have some killer pointers on that tbh.

@iboughtleosbooklist Dude leave the forum. Lol. I made a thread maybe a month ago, about a lucid dream. Wherein I asked a character in the dream if he could see me, he said that he could... And I was musing that maybe the character was being truthful, until me waking in bed collapsed him back into me. Leo replied, but only focused on the fact that it is me who wakes in bed. He did not seem to have interest in whether the dream character could see me. Only interest in the fact that it is ultimately me... And this probably carries over when discussing solipsism, he does not think it is relevant whether you are seeing him or not. He doesn't care about that element and so omits to really bother with it or discuss it. If he was specifically interested in that, he might go more in depth on that... Evidently this here, the appearances around me, it is all finite, so this moment cannot be the whole of infinity. Every appearance is necessarily finite. Very basic logic: If it looks red it looks NOT blue. So this is finite. The infinite appears finite... It can't make something outside itself or out of anything but itself, again basic logic 101. So for finite things to appear, the infinite (the absolute totality) has to divide within itself... It is completely logical.

I will add as I was thinking about it today... I do remember the first time I felt inexplicably self-conscious and awkward. It was at this fair thing outside a hospital... There was no reason for the feeling. I just got out of the car and felt odd. I acted odd and awkward, but because it was a new sensation (I was unusually confident prior to this) I couldn't really place what I was feeling, and so I acted awkward without the judging myself that comes after the fact. Once the ego grasps a "mental defect" as part of itself, you begin to engage more in self judgement, which lowers your self esteem and amplifies the disorder to feeling bad beyond the actual "awkward" event too. As I grew up through my teens (this was age 14 and beyond), the symptoms would bounce around a lot. One day I would randomly feel super super awkward around my best friend. Then the next day randomly be super comfortable around them again. Sometimes I would be comfortable in general again albeit never back to normal. Eventually it settled into a kind of middle ground which at the beginning years of adulthood was quite severe. But lessened when I quit formal employment and became self employed instead. You can reduce the suffering of the condition if you do not add judgement onto the feelings and behaviors. Much of the suffering comes from the subconscious self-admonishment: "omg you acted so weird, I bet everyone thinks you're a fucking weirdo". Adopting it as an identity "being a weird awkward loser is what I am." This element is added by your mind, and it does not need to be... If you can cut out that portion, just as you wouldn't judge a skittish cat, then you will find greater happiness in life. But I largely recommend medication. Specifically ask for Zoloft. I studied psych textbooks and the studies on various antidepressants found Zoloft and Paxil to be the most effective for this condition. Paxil is more effective but has more sides. For me I have been up to 200mg Zoloft... MAOIs are also possible but more dangerous, and in my psych textbooks I recall the difference in positive response rate did not seem worth the additional risk.

It should be provable with basic logic... There's actually a really good book which does this. It's called "Refuting the External World" by Goran Buckland. The premise of the book is that this guy is talking to a naive realist friend called "Walt". By this point it's about a quarter in? So he has already differentiated qualia from what scientists believe is out there etc IIRC.

Yeah I knew that would be said, but go on like, Paleo diet. I did for a little while at around 18. Same thing... We're just gross. Lmao. Most great apes are gross tbh.

This seems like, really irresponsible lmao.......

@Leo Gura That is good, these are the middle ground type of people who can draw in people who would not even watch a clip of you or Sadghuru and just dismiss it as evidence-less "woo". But they will listen to a scientist or Sam Harris. And you only really need that small dent in the image of reality to allow it to crumble entirely... People may go to your videos from these individuals.

In your experience, would you not say the theme of those trips roughly converges into a "mystical awakening" or whatever. Unity? I know there's great variance on DMT, irrespective of dose actually. I certainly had such experiences with DMT, but could not ever say that it is reliable and reproducible. Seems pot luck.

Really, dude? Tell me what insight I should take from flying down a hallway with jester magicians poking out from doors tipping their hat at me. This is what I am saying... Say you have Richard Dawkins in front of you. You have one shot with a drug to show him what you are talking about. The only drug you would pick would be vaporized 5-MeO-DMT to breakthrough. If Dawkins smoked some n,n-DMT, probably he's going to have a weird bunch of visuals and not come out with any change in perspective... I don't even really get heavy visuals from DMT, but the perspective shift is usually a bit closer to Salvia or psychosis. About 5 trips out of 100 actually induced a heavy nondual state. That's a very poor batting average.

Hmm... Is 5-MeO-DMT the first psychedelic you ever tried, by any chance? I've had friends who smoked DMT and similarly had Salvia type bizarre trips where the cushions were asking to enter their body and possess them, strange visions of spider webs. Just bizarro land. I forgot if you've used Salvia extract. That should give you a very different type of trip.

You still don't really escape the illusion, you're still at the mercy of sheer experience (which is all appearances, right?). And when Leo becomes "infinite" (vaporizing 5, not the weird shit), there's no person to influence anything. He "became" reality. I had a disturbing experience of a type of boundlessness that was beyond what I had felt prior. It was like there was no border anywhere in ANY direction, and thus there was NOWHERE to grab onto to orient myself or to begin to manipulate or control something. To grasp things you need something to grab hold of, mentally or otherwise. If there is no boundary created by the appearances, you can't orient yourself at all. It's a disturbing and bizarre experience, quite like Salvia in that your mind can never grasp anything so just laughs psychotically where it's attempting and failing on loop....... We're always in SOME sort of illusion even when pain and whatever sheds.

This is just how a scientist would of course word things and see things. It's also difficult to describe the idea that there's nothing "behind" things. Because of course people will say that when you close your door, your hallway is still outside. Or, things are made of atoms, made of quarks, made of X. Which isn't what is being conveyed when you try to explain there isn't anything behind objects. I'm not sure how to actually communicate that idea succinctly and without confusion to a materialist... Probably easier using sound, because then they can't think there's a hallway behind the sound as they might with a door?