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  1. Posted · Edited by thisintegrated

    4 minutes ago, cookiemonster said:

    And that's the judgement I was referring to.

    Judgement, tribalism, lack of nuance.

    How is that judgement?  It's just an observation.  You sure you're not just projecting?

    Most people I know are Blue.  Even I was a Blue once ..for a period in my childhood.  Got nothing against Blues ..except the music genre.

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    12 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

    So you're saying that when an apparently Green person posts about the need for more LGBTQ+-friendly options in the gender section on one's forum profile, or advocates for the rights of non-binary people in the military, or talks about the benefits of taking a feminist lens on history, or that we should be critical of patriarchical social structures, or that we should be tolerant of different cultures or religions other than  western Christianity, or that we should elevate the minimum wage and maybe consider implementing a 4-day work week, and that we should be tolerant of non-traditional relationships and family structures (polygamy and queer parents etc.) – you're saying that this person could in fact be Blue?

    o..m..g.. that's quite a few examples you've got there.

     

    Could, yes, but Blues rarely start threads about reform or making big changes of any kind.  Blue posts tend to be either:

    1. Boring, not really saying much, and kinda pointless.
    2. Just complaining about Muslims or whatever random thing they don't like (e.g. "Not ANOTHER lockdown!! I ain't wearing no mask!").
    3. Random Blue question, and not replying back after someone answers it.

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    5 minutes ago, Happy Lizard said:

    @thisintegrated not really, I don’t really care, I see my blind spots as having a green prospective ( some I don’t think I’m completely green tough idk). And I’m here to learn. I just feel like there are some Ive noticed who criticize green from below which is counter intuitive if there objective is to learn. I personally don’t mind a criticism from above since I know that being too hell-bent on protecting everyone and there emotions wouldn’t get us far.

    Whether criticism is from above or below is mostly irrelevant.  Tier 1 stages will all have their own problems, visible to other stages above and below.  The lower stages are all out of balance.  For Green to get to Yellow, it has to to return to individualisticness, the same side that Orange is in.  So hearing perspectives from Orange can help.

  7. Posted · Edited by thisintegrated

    12 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

    @thisintegrated Leo himself is blue. Look at the amount of policing he does. Not just blue, Leo almost bans anyone who doesn't agree with him. So so so so so so green. And so so advanced green..my ass.

    lmao wat.

    Ok, I had assumed your understanding of the model was a bit better than this, considering your post count.

    Yeah, his policing is a real issue, but Leo is tier 2.  Yellow or Turquoise, depending on how you look at it.

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    2 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

    @Happy Lizard  I don't care if it's advanced green forum. Because that doesn't factor in the good parts of green but mostly focuses on the bad of green in the name of top down criticisms.

    It's almost laughable because it's like Feminism trying to grow and evolve but before this evolving can happen, the patriarchy decided to start finding faults in it and start criticizing it from the above, thus actually doing a disservice because it blocks the basic evolving of something that's already struggling, it's a nice cop out used by the Higher Ego to not have to compromise with the issues of the lower Ego, let's keep punishing in the name of criticizing from above thus suffocating it and destroying it because our fragile egos cant handle the shit that it's capable of evolving,so let's start defeating it before our egos get shattered. That's a nice strategy to not only achieve higher status but also achieve the goal of defeating anything that might defeat this newly created high status quo.

     

    You're advocating for complacency and stagnation for the sake of avoiding bruised egos.

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    3 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

    Wut? xD

    You sure you're not a mod?

     

    Can't really pick on a random mod to make my point, so it's hard to explain.

    Whenever Blues contribute, their posts tend to be in accordance with the [Green] theme of the forum.  Blues are very conformist, and Blues are very common in the world, so any Blues that find themselves here often take on a Green color.

    Blues are often chosen to be mods.  So whenever a mod posts something, it's gonna look Green on the surface, but when you dig deeper you find Blue.

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    1 minute ago, Preety_India said:

    I don't think highly or lowly. I don't think egoically. I think authentically.

    Whether you realize it or not, by saying "I'd prefer to see more Green threads" you're thinking of it more "highly".  You don't have to be egoistic about hierarchies, but you can't pretend they don't exist.  This is a big challenge for Greens to understand.

     

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    In fact most discussions are in negative spirit and keep shitting on Green

    Would love to see that.  Never seen anything but praise for Green on the forum.

  11. Posted · Edited by thisintegrated

    6 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

    Nope. The forum is not green. I have been here for a really long time to realise that this forum is not green.

    If it becomes Green, it would be nice. Yet that's not going to be the case. 

    It will never be Green so you have nothing to worry.

    Anyway. The green here is just a facade, it's like people discussing veganism and acting how trendy veganism is when none of the people discussing veganism are anything but vegan. 

    You're saying it's Orange?  Yeah, it is.  I think it's about as Orange as it is Green, but even the Oranges here focus on Green topics, for the most part.  The "theme" of the forum is "Green".

     

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    If this forum was so green, I wouldn't have been so sad here everyday, so suffocated. 

    How so?  Your mood shouldn't be dependent on the contents of the forum.

     

    ..perhaps you think too highly of Green?  Greens aren't exactly tier 2s.. lol.

  13. Posted · Edited by thisintegrated

    11 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

    Not up to my expectations.

    woah.. you replied in literally like 20 seconds.. again  : )

     

    But this forum has a strong Green bias.  If it were any more Green it would be a Green-only forum.  Spiritual topics attract Green more than any other stage, so Greens are attracted to this place.  Orange is similarly common here, but maybe not quite as much as Green.

    That said, Blues with an interest in these topics can sometimes appear Green on the surface.  They just repeat Green rhetoric and contribute to the Greenness.

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    Normally, people here start discussions because of some personal problem they're struggling with.  In other cases it's often some silly stage Orange/Green misunderstanding of something that they want to debate.  And then you'll occasionally find some stage Yellow discussion that gets lengthy AF real fast.

    This makes sense, and is what one would expect.  But where does that leave Turquoise?  What kind of problems would Turquoise come here for?  Turquoise isn't Yellow, so it won't want to engage in intellectual discussions on metaphysics, nor will it want to convince tier 1s of "the truth" in some misguided attempt to "help".

     

    What would Turquoise come here for?  What kind of challenges could Turquoise get help here with?

  17. Posted · Edited by thisintegrated

    16 minutes ago, Alysssa said:

    Yes, turquoise, this is what I meant. What do you think?

    Hard to say, as, becoming Turquoise normally entails a long process of complex thoughts, experiences, emotions, etc.  If you skipped that, it's unclear how people would process it.

    And if you got "too" enlightened, reality would melt away.  So you have to decide on an arbitrary point before that.

     

    If everyone got to Turquoise there shouldn't really be any downsides.  People would have gone through all the other stages and would recognise the importance of keeping their jobs and continuing as normal, they'd just feel high all the time and be bursting with happiness 24/7.  World peace would  begin immediately, and within a very short amount of time all the world's problems would be solved forever.

    Now, if, instead, everyone turned Green, there'd likely be chaos for some some time as everyone quits their jobs and all the world's markets crash.

  20. Posted · Edited by thisintegrated

    5 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

    Yea yea I'm trying to get there.

    I swear you're like the fastest person on this forum..

     

    btw, if you can't "identify" what masculinity "feels" like, hormones might be the easiest option.  Once you know the feel, it's easy to recall to mind.  I mean, if I wanted to, I could suddenly turn 100% feminine, but it's scary af so I never do.

     

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    mission, purpose, duty, and protection

    Pretty sure those are just American values of something..

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    3 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

    @thisintegrated lolling at hormone. Nope. I don't want hormones. 

    I need to cultivate masculinity but finding it difficult because I don't naturally posses it.

    I have always been surrounded by females.

    I never talk much to men.

    So I'm kinda closed off to their masculinity. 

    There is no male in my life right now. I think having a male helps with such things. To have some influence.

    Like whenever I'm surrounded by many men, I watch them, learn from them and I feel motivated to do better, I try to rub their qualities on me little bit, generally dominant males help me achieve this.

    Hmm, interesting.  Sounds like you need to work on Orange, wouldn't you say?  Perhaps even some Red.

    Orange feels kinda masculine, so maybe an approachable way of targeting masculinity.  Just need to tap into selfishness a bit.