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@Leo Gura I was talking about the future when that happens. Point is that treating people's mood well by therapy, good work buddies and caring boss will enhance their work quality. That'll be huge thing in the future. Of cource everything costs, but if I would guess, better mental/physical health of workers increases work quality so much that pros outweight the cons.

@Rafael Thundercat I agree that polices and all people having extremely traumatizing work should have free therapy. Maybe we hit sometimes point where all workers of any kind of have free access to therapy, because we live times where stress and depression are too high in charts. But yeah, about the other topic I still think that polices have so hard gigs that they need to act fast and precisely so I think they shouldn't be thinking about that they go to jail when they need to concider shooting. -joNi-

@iboughtleosbooklist As you said, that's cope. That you claim to be okay without gf and winning when in actually you aren't just hides the problem from your eyes for a while. That it was a dream or not is unimportant point. Of course if that makes it easier to face your emotions then you can do it, but don't make that an excuse to be okay having problems unfixed.

@Nilsi If I combine already existing ingredients my own way to make special meal that no one else made before, is that original or not? If the answer is yes then why suddenly it is not when ChatGPT literally does the same thing?

@iboughtleosbooklist You haven't posted that even once. You only believe so by relying on one thought that you named as a memory.

@PenguinPablo Why would you think so?

Anyone got thoughts about that?

Important lesson about relativity. There are advantages and disadvantages in cencoring and it just all depends on the situation, perspective and goal. When you're leading people you need to be extremely smart and you'd want pretty much to be couple steps ahead of people you're leading if not even more. In the structure level you need to learn the skill to see in the future and analyze possible direction different scenarios could go to. As a conscious leader you want to impact society or at least the group you're leading. There are couple possible ways to make impact and I could divide those methods to 2 groups, content-level impact and structure-level impact. In content-level impact you try to make people see required perspectives in order to go to healthier and "better" society or group. That is everything that happens within conversations. That is pointing out blindspots in worldviews, showing the advantages of the opposite views, showing new possibilities and ideas, reducing hate between different perspectives and reducing the amount of automatical responses and thought patterns (biases). If you want to make content-level impact on society you should have good arguments so people can really see the thing you're trying to show. The idea is not to sell "wrong" perspective using force, but helping the sales of "right" ones. In structure-level impact you try to make the same impact that is covered in last paragraph, but by changing the "environment" of conversations and human interactions. That is how we get to censoring, deplatforming and to freedom of speech. Sometimes you know that the advantages of censoring content (reducing the hate and fights between different groups and people, deleting harmful worldviews and thought loops from big groups of people and redirecting conversations to better direction) outrun the disadvantages of censoring content (people being mad, people starting to become suspicious and not being able to really discuss the nuances of the spesific topic). Freedom of speech and actions versus the level of maturity. Only problem in freedom of speech is when it is used harmfully and only problem in censoring is when it is done without good reason and it restricts healthy, important and required dialogue. If you feel like you can't express truth you'll start to fight for the freedom of speech and if you feel offended by some thoughts (right or wrong) you'd want that to be censored. The more maturity you have to make better decisions and therefore act better way the more freedom can be handed to you. As long as we can't trust people to act correctly we have to guide them using laws, censoring or whatever structural method that exist. End conclusion Everything is perspectival and depends on the situation so I don't speak for any individual case, but I just tried to cover some key points about this very important concept. Censoring could and has been used to wrong egoistical goals, but that is what lead us to grow to this point we are right now with our development. Should we censor more or less, to that question you can't even know the answer, because in order to answer to that you'd need to predict future of society using your knowledge, know it like your pockets and just have mastery of human mind and still you could fail to know. Universe keeps surprising us time after time. Thanks for reading whole thing . With love -joNi- <3

@Tyler Robinson Sounds familiar The important word is "can". I agree it can, but also it might be the opposite.

@Tyler Robinson Freedom of speech allows you to say whatever you can by the definition. Still you have to stay responsible of your words. You're right on that. Sometimes suppressing something which is true could still be useful and I wouldn't call that unfair. Goes the same way as white lie. See White Lie.

@Tyler Robinson Here you go .

@Tyler Robinson That passive-aggressiveness is real in that post I'll make thread about that topic. (Not the jewish thing, but about freedom of speech.)

@PenguinPablo Before asking if the Ai is conscious or not, contemplate if the "person" talking to you is.

@John Paul Teens nowadays already have too many rights in comparison to their duties. If I am giving you free housing, food and life coaching I assume to have some type of control over you or that I get something else in a return. I don't know if things in florida are so much different from finland, but I don't just see what you try to show as a problem at all. I guess we can't go forward in the conversation if you can't open your mind to bigger picture thinking where you should see that maybe you had bad parents, but that doesn't mean that all of us have. I see what you say just as a shadow from your past. Your approach is just fighting fire with fire. We should just get better connection between parents and their children. You agree?

@John Paul You'd literally fuck the whole country then, gg wp. I am not saying that having different options is bad though, but the matter of thing just is that you shouldn't let people have too much control if they didn't learn the maturity/responsibility before that. I don't know what specifically you are having on your mind when you approach this conversation, but don't you see any dangers in handing lots of control to immature children. As I've said millions of times, when you just have good parents they support your growth and lead you well and that's how the thing just should be. Don't you understand that freedom comes with lots of dangers and I am not even over-exaggerating now.

@John Paul That's not what I said. I know that there are parents with bad behaviours, but to keep it simple most of the parents are somewhere "normal" and healthy environment for children to grow. When we are talking about sociological things we have to focus to the big picture and not to exceptions. If parents are smoking meth or being extremely bad image to their children then that again is another issue we shouldn't we focussing before getting the basics of previous dialogue done. Wouldn't you agree that children should be focussing their time to studying, planning their life and enjoying the youth instead of going to live adult life as early as the age 15?

@John Paul wdum?

@John Paul I don't just believe in advantages of becoming independent as fast as possible. If you have problems with being okay human being with your parents and getting along with them, I don't think you are ready to be so called "independent" yet. We don't need any mails or flayers, because as I tried to explain; we are constantly developing as humans and therefore as parents too, so we don't need to rush things. Spiritual people usually seek for fast solutions, but you should understand that society as a whole develops so so so much slower than individual being on his/her journey, so we have to learn to be patient with it.

@Leo Gura I mean yeah, if that could really work then whatever, but as I said I just believe that conscious leadership from parents is the key to the main problem we had here. It would be really informative from you to make the conscious leadership video that you talked about soon. I've been waiting it . PS. check PM wink wink.

@John Paul Yeah I guess I read what you said about mandate wrongly. Sorry about that. All people have big egos and I'd argue that there are bigger egos as bosses for some corporation or something like that. The ego problem is gradually getting better as our society evolves and as I said the only way to fix that problem is having better raising which includes conscious conversations. If you let your childrens do whatever they want then the information gained from the parents and their parents etc. would be lost. I don't get why you should even have "better" job than McDonald's at the age under 18. You should be studying, planning your life and enjoying the youth as you have time, energy and parents who give you housing, food and advices for free. That's just another topic and we shouldn't go to that before understanding the previous topic we still have open.

@John Paul That's just not practical to do in a big picture. Generally living with your parents till 18 yo is good. You could very easily fuck up your health, financial situation and mental health if your parents didn't guide and protect you. As I said: "Pretty rarely under 18 year old is wise enough to be fully responsible for their life and that's why they live with their parents and listen to them." Also you forgot to respond to these questions. 1) 2)

@John Paul How would the mandate be like? Aren't people under 18 yo allowed to work in usa. WDYM? Usually children pass their parents' development and that's how it should be in order to move forward in evolution. Pretty rarely under 18 year old is wise enough to be fully responsible for their life and that's why they live with their parents and listen to them. Also usually in that teen age people start to challenge their parents at wrong things so how could we distinguish that from good criticism. Oh wait that's where conscious conversation between parents and their children come into play.

@John Paul You're focusing to the wrong aspect of the puzzle. The problem isn't that children aren't labeled as adults, but that parents don't have conscious conversations with their children to find out what they truly want and support them on their journey. Children/teens shouldn't have the same rights as adults have, because the obvious developmental difference. To someone to truly be responsible of their life and choices one needs to be in certain developmental stage. So we need to focus getting our parenting to the better level so it is more interactive and the leading is explained to the child/teen in a way they understand that it is for their own benefit. Critique from children should also be appreciated for better leading. Possible counter-argument. People aren't the same so it is unfair to set specific age which people can't control to be measurement for being adult. 1) If we want to use some non-age measurement to find out if you are mature enough, then you need to suggest one that is somehow cheap, easy and precise. Otherwise it would just cause more inequality. 2) People in very young age are very sensitive so how one could possibly explain to someone that why they aren't in the same "level" as their peers. 3) How you stop people from harassing those people who develop slower? Before at least all of those 3 things are explained well, I am standing for you get adult privileges only when you're 18. Welcome to challenge my perspective though. That would be fun. -joNi-

@Ulax Thanks . @Ulax @Nilsi Hugs for everyone and let's together figure out what we could do about the situation that is going on. We are in the same boat after all. Let's not drown each others.

@Ulax Don't turn this into personal attack. Be nice, thanks <3