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@Natasha Tori Maru I don't understand frame control but I appreciate last lines of your post.

Posting here indicating that I'm good. And yes rejection is a win not a failure or loss.

@Olaf Carry forward this same vulnerability to real life social interactions.You will progress. The post on this forum is itself evidence of your vulnerability. You're further than you think. This isn't just feel good advice it's practical reality.

@Zenterus What you said was wise.

Yup .

@BlessedLion Great post. I think vulnerability - expressing oneself honestly to others must act as a compass in dating. In the past I have consumed pick up material but it's bunch of surface level tactics as compared to Dr. Robert Glover or Manson's wisdom. Yup pickup is performance compared to honest vulnerability. The outcome of 1st is that even if you grind the nail and succeed it will still be unfulfilling and leave you empty whereas if you practice the later (vulnerability) then even you get rejected or end up dateless you will be fulfilled . Thanks for sharing.

@Ramanujan Man what are you talking about. Anyways @krockerman great that you grew out of it. I personally purchased ToddV's winner game ,read Mark Manson's Models and Dating essentials for Men by Dr.Robert Glover . Attracted many girls throughout my life but none of them culminated in a date or relationship. What I can see that I have made huge progress. I made a post few days earlier titled - Rejection on the forum. I can proudly say that I have moved on from it. Earlier rejection used to consume me for months but now even less than 5 days .

@Olaf Man , you found a receptive girl. It has also happened with me in the past a couple of times. I think it's wise to communicate your honest intentions to her beforehand .

@Olaf Yup ,action leads to confidence. Waiting for confidence before taking action makes you un-confident.

@Olaf Great post . As per confidence I think that's it taking action despite nervousness or fear. Even though I have read it in a book. But I experimented with it and it draws people in sometimes while simultaneously repelling people.So yeah ,some will like you some will not. Watch this -

@Lyubov Sorry dude but I am not longer in college . I have passed out and I am a working professional. @Olaf I don't think that all will say yes .Most will say no and a few will say yes.

Natasha, this is gold.

@LordFall Feedback accepted sir. 👍

@Zenterus Man as soon as you make pickup your purpose over career like gets F--ked. Great post.

Ok that's part of vulnerability but also expressing your dark side along with your strengths is vulnerability too.

This is maturity in dating in a nutshell.

@Miguel1 Even though you're a moderator here and I am not one to tell you what you should do. However , I suggest you to walk the path of vulnerability since it leads to fulfillment no matter how less you laid or date but if you express yourself honestly enough without looking to gain something for it . 2 things happen - some girls love you while some girls hurt you . I have observed it in my life.Choose quality over quantity or don't take it seriously 😂. But I have seen many examples - A guy is desperate to find a girlfriend,he finds her ,he breaks up with her and then the cycle continues returning to where he started .

@LordFall 👍

@LordFall Haha basically I was talking about like internal power like for example resilience - basically acceptance of challenges etc. which causes better quality of relationships to stay in your life even though they might be few .Okay fine which way suits you . I am nobody to tell. 😁

@AION I'm sorry but I didn't got angry I just typed that impulsively .Sorry dude.And I became impulsive because I have been a subscriber of Manson's courses, read his book Subtle Art , Models multiple times. And it's helped me a lot. But I didn't wanted to hurt you dude.

@LordFall Ok fine. Like for example just simple honest expression of one's intentions ,thoughts and feelings is enough. Chasing power means thinking that you are above others or better than others since you have got a lot of sex , material possessions than other person. For example : When I was in college other guys made fun of me infront of their girlfriends and they bullied me for the fact that I am less than them since they have dated multiple girls and I am single. Even girls in my batch mistreated me but as soon as I (honestly speaking from lived experience ) expressed myself honestly despite initial nervousness 1 of them flirted with me multiple times on her own ,another one later came to me and talked in a respectful ,friendly manner after I withdrew from her bullying group and the batch crush approached me . Yup so expressing your both strength and weakness is power but it must be honest from inside out. Since ,if it isn't honest then it will come off as inauthentic and needy .Also , @LordFall yup owning weakness rather than overemphasising them is true vulnerability , you're right .By the way sorry @AION I typed my response in an impulsive manner .

@LordFall I am not telling to be weak but admitting weakness as well as strength leads to power. Domination is the side effect of internal insecurity. As per fate yes you should stand up for yourself when challenged but chasing power leads to powerlessness. Watch - Avoidance of Truth episode by Leo . Also when admitting the fact that you are suffering or feeling bad sorts out people worth being with. Since , acceptance of suffering, questioning assumptions behind suffering is power . I'm not talking about avoidance .I have edited my message now. @Miguel1 Keep being vulnerable speak your mind despite initial hesitation ,express yourself honestly to women . I have noticed in real life recently that when I spoke what I think I woman hurted me but later since another day she started initiating conversations with me and we had multiple joyful conversations.

@ZenAlex Great man , I am proud of you . I have mild social anxiety and I have found that the cure is vulnerability.

@AION Man , most things in life are counterintuitive and so is dating. Even look at reality of dating - Many attractive guys are single and many desperate guys are getting laid .But the quality of relationships matter too. Also ask yourself - Are you chasing love and power based on the assumption that it will make you happy ? You can find gold there .

@Miguel1 But vulnerability represents power which manipulation cannot provide. As Leo mentioned in his video avoidance of Truth that truth ( vulnerability in this case ) gives you depth ,power that others simply don't have . It's the counterintuitive nature of life . Even though I too have never dated but vulnerability sorts out women worth being with . It generates receptivity. Speaking from experience .Also you can read Models by Mark Manson especially the chapter - Power in vulnerability.