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Yes well I thought you might be able to offer some more insights given how much you praise him. It seems not because to me this just sounds like a cop out, sorry. You can live a good, successful life with many positive warrior-like traits without studying someone like Tate. There are plenty of better examples of masculine warrior role models in this thread. Or just do what the majority of non personal dev people do and start doing a martial art or sport. That’ll give you far more stage red development than studying someone like Tate. It’s not even like I don’t think you can learn anything from Tate. But to me it seems you clearly idolise him in a way that’s quite emotional and not detached, which I think for someone like Tate basically means you’ve drank his kool-aid. He’s a salesman and you’re the mark. Also I count like 8 times I’ve heard you have to tell everyone how you’re stage yellow to justify your viewpoints. If you were as developed as you tell everyone then I think your arguments would stand for themselves, instead of you having to tell everyone how stage yellow you are to justify your viewpoints.

I rarely see you accept all the bullshit he's done. If you're going to fairly evaluate him you really need to acknowledge that instead of sweeping it under the rug. He's essentially made his money being a pimp, teaching others how to be a pimp, and selling grifty crypto/investing/freelancing courses. Almost every single penny he owns comes from these sources, and probably several others that are too dodgy for him to even reveal. It's all very stage red. If you wanna integrate stage red find someone who's a higher stage of development but has integrated red, @Razard86 suggested some great examples of above. Can you actually tell me any concrete lessons you have learn from Tate? I saw you say earlier that 'he turned you into a warrior' and 'his advice made you better with women' but to me these sound a bit like cop-outs. There is no concrete lessons there, those sound quite vague to me. You have consumed a lot of Tate and have said that he is 80% gold, so I am asking you to condense down the 80% of pure solid gold into just a few bullet points of what valuable lessons you think he actually provides. If he is 80% solid gold and has created such great results for you, that should not be too hard.

That's a pretty good list, cheers lol. All of his money comes from toxic/scummy/leechy sources like the ones above. It's hard to argue he's only 10-20% toxic when probably 90%+ of his wealth is coming from really fucking dodgy sources. If he's willing to share the above sources of revenue, which are really dodgy, how many even dodgier sources of revenue do you think he's got going on behind the scenes as well? Tate is like the final boss of used car salesmen.

Automated production lines have been a thing since the early 1900s and as they have gotten more advanced many, many factory workers have lost their jobs.

I mean, there is also nothing morally wrong with smearing shit all over yourself and your partner for sexual pleasure, but that doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of people find it pretty disgusting. There are biological mechanisms in place which make things like that and incest seem disgusting to most humans.

Are they incel forums? Because I've looked at them a fair few times and the primary issue is not looks. It's that they're all really unpleasant people. PUA is something you need basic social skills before you can start doing effectively. If you are not physically attractive, have zero social skills, and no social network at all (which describes a lot of incels) pickup stuff is like step 5. There are like 3 or 4 other steps you need to complete before you should start doing pickup. I've met plenty of ugly dudes who are great with women. The difference is that they are fun people to be around and don't spend their time complaining about how ugly and unlovable they are on forums online, they have vibrant social lives and do a bunch of stuff with their lives.

People have been fearing it for centuries. Artists are crying now like they're the first group of people to ever face the existential crisis of having their job automated, lol

Depends what you’re looking for. Clubs are unbeatable for hookups and more casual relationships. Maybe not ideal for more serious relationships, but it’s not like that’s impossible either. As a guy you will be able to meet way better girls in a club than you’ll meet online

It's a common pattern where a woman shows tons of interest towards a guy on a night out, may even want to go home with him but can't because of logistics, and then seemingly never wants to see them again after that night. I'm not saying it's impossible to see a girl you met on a night out again if you don't sleep with her or anything, just that it's a notably unlikely. When you meet someone out a night the passion usually burns quick and fast, which means it also dies fast.

In my experience, women you meet on nights out at a club are really unlikely to want to meet up again if you don't pull on the same night. It might not be anything you did wrong, it's just how it is.

Because there are some things that cause enough suffering to others to not really require justification for being unethical from a human POV; cold-blooded murder, cheating in clearly monogamous relationships/marriage, and molestation of kids are all examples of things in that category among plenty of others. In regards to cheating specifically: you are breaking a solidly defined agreement of trust, which has the potential to emotionally destroy another person and cause extreme suffering. You are putting your own selfish needs in front of a shared responsibility that you agreed to. Most people agree that this is unethical and at the very least an indication of poor character. The fact you need to keep it a secret from your wife actually explains it very succinctly. If it was a harmless act then you could just tell your wife that you came inside another women's vagina. But you know that it would likely emotionally destroy her so you have to keep it secret in order for it to be acceptable in your mind. Which again brings you back to having to justify the statement "it's not unethical to molest a child if no one finds out" if you want to make that particular argument.

I don't know or care, I'm not coming at this from an absolute perspective or from any kind of religious perspective, I'm thinking about it in terms of the concrete harm it potentially causes to you, and those around you. Hiding behind an absolute POV when it comes to ethical questions is somewhat lazy because everything is OK from an absolute perspective. That's nothing new.

This logic is comparable to saying it's OK to molest a baby as long as no one ever finds out.

I don’t even know what you are trying to say here.

This is a really great explanation and I’m probably going to steal it from you at least the part about attraction/maintaining I think that’s a really good way of putting it

That’s like going to your local basketball team and telling them how to play basketball because you read 5 books about it. You have no idea if it’s quality advice or not if you have no experience. It’s especially bad if you talk quite arrogantly about it, which I sometimes see you do. That’s why I felt it was necessary to comment. I am really sorry if this comes across as aggressive, I just think that you should not give advice without some solid experience.

This is more of that "I've read a lot of theory about game but don't have a lot of practice" talk. I really don't mean it in a bad way, it's just the impression that I get from you and I feel I should be honest about it.

I read what you said, I just don't agree with it. To me personally, it reads like someone who's learnt a bunch of theory about game but not actually done that much practice. That might not be true, but that was the impression I got, sorry.

Nothing you say here suggests that "how's it going", "how are you", "how's your night going" are bad openers. These are still starting a conversation with a woman, which is moving things forward. Yea, you should move past small talk quickly, but almost all conversations start with at least 1 or 2 small talk questions.

What openers do you usually use then?

It's not a bad question. Yea dry small-talk conversations are bad, but saying "you should never ask a woman 'how are you' because it's a waste of time and boring" is extreme. My opener is "how's your night going" which is similar and it's worked for me plenty of times. You don't need fancy openers as long as you know how to move away from the boring small talk quickly. Fancy openers can actually make you look like you're trying too hard.

That is not someone who has your best interests at heart. Wanting an arranged marriage for you is one thing, threatening to commit suicide if you don't do what she says is behaviour that you absolutely DO NOT want from someone close to you in your life. It is hard to live a good life if the people close to you are constantly emotionally blackmailing you to do what they want instead of what you want for yourself.

Besides things like a car and house, what are you saving your money for? If you are saving it just to hoard it like a dragon and never spend it, what's the point in even having it? You can have some super cool experiences just by spending a bit of money. It's possible you reach old age with a bunch of money in the bank and realise that you're now full of regrets for things you could've done with it but now can't because you're too old.

This is making me think I have autism I don’t feel much difference between 1 and 3 tabs of the acid I’ve taken and it’s rated at 250ug Even if it was 100ug you would still expect to notice severe difference between 100ug and 300ug based on typical descriptions but practically the only difference is duration and slightly more intense visuals

This is maybe why you are so focused on diet. It could be coming from a place of trauma. She likely doesn't have that, which is why she doesn't see it as being as important as you do. It doesn't make either of you right or wrong. You just have different priorities because of differing life experience. It's the most relevant point to this whole discussion. It's just a bit odd to me that you don't say what her diet is yet talk about it like she's eating takeaway 7 days a week. To me that makes me think she probably has a reasonably balanced/healthy diet, just not up to your very high standards. Maybe that's wrong, it's just the impression I get. Not everyone wants to make a serious study out of diet. Most people want a balance of health, cost, ease and taste. If you aren't an athlete or someone who needs peak performance out of their body, you can find a pretty decent balance of those things that works for you without stressing and turning diet into a serious study. It's far more about setting up good habits than turning it into a lifelong study. You turn health into a study if you need to because you have specific/unique requirements for diet i.e. athlete, weight loss, health condition, eating disorder etc. I'm not promoting junk food, I'm saying that many people (especially younger people like up to late twenties) have bigger fish to fry than worrying about eating a pizza once a week.