Gianna

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@Zigzag Idiot I know exactly what you mean by pain body. Ooo okay this is a good point. Eye contact with someone ruled by their pain body wouldn’t allow for connection anyway. So it may be best to avoid it in this sense all together. Interesting take! Thanks for sharing. @NoSelfSelf How funny! Okay that’s good practice. I’m going to take this on. @Eternal Unity Sure! I’m glad you relate and are sharing your experience and input.

I noticed my sister avoids all eye contact. I then notice I too, have this tendency. Sometimes more than other times, I’m not sure the distinction. It’s not that I’m lying or anything. Maybe it’s a fear of intimacy issue? Idk what do you guys think?

I love this!! How beautiful is this statement. It motivates me to start speaking with my eyes and not to be afraid of it. It’s just like any other form of communication! Also, it really helps hearing your story. Thank you greatly for sharing.

Mine is usually around family so I think it’s probably a connection thing. Ugh. So sad. Going to work on it! Thanks!

Has anybody heard or have experience with human design? I just discovered mine yesterday and wondering what it’s all about.

Has anyone in this forum tried acupuncture for emotional release/healing? If so, is it as effective as Leo's shamanic breathing? Or other holotropic breathwork exercises?

What is the difference between the concept “Everything Goes Full Circle” and the Strange Loop concept? Or, is there no difference?

Think deeper about what your mind is trying to direct you towards. What do you daydream about? Do you need more of that in your life? If so, maybe providing that for yourself will open up space for focus later on. Or, maybe you are not actually interested in the things you are telling yourself you are interested in. Try reading different types of books, different areas to learn.

I think posting this is a great first step for someone who's reluctant to help. The forum, in general, is such a good place for those stuck in this middle ground area. For me, I think a good tell-tale sign that you need outside help is when you start to question your own capabilities. After all, how much help can you give yourself if you are unsure about your own judgment? This is something I am struggling with. I really do not feel like getting outside help at all. I'd rather do it myself. But you do not know what you do not know. What I think to myself is that you'll never truly know the progress you can achieve outside of just your own help unless you test the waters. If you have nothing to contrast your progress with (by using other techniques) you'll never know. Hopefully, others will give their experiences with getting outside help to see how productive it is in comparison to self-help and our beautiful online community.

What a great story! It's looking like we are getting a lot of popular YouTuber's here joining the forum. I think that is great and I am happy you found help. Thank you for sharing! I also have experience with someone having bipolar disorder. This channel sounds like it would be a great resource.

Sometimes being unproductive is the most productive thing you can do. Allow yourself a break from your own judgment– what you should or should not do. If you are having this mentality then it is likely you will not let yourself fall 'off track' for long. Trust yourself. It is a great builder of self-esteem and self-trust.

I look back on times when my ex tried helping me with my eating disorder and it makes me feel humiliated. I hate that he was subject to it and it makes me sick to think he saw something in me that I couldn't control. Yet, at the same time, I appreciate his care for me. I know it was coming from a place of love and not judgment but I can't help but feel embarrassed when attention was on it.

What does NLP have to do with anything here? I've tried to take a course on it but I was bored out of my mind. Can someone help me to understand the significance of NLP and how it relates to self-actualization, consciousness, or enlightenment?

I was tracking really well on my spiritual journey and when I started to listen to Teal Swan I feel like it completely fucked me up. For anyone who knows her work thoroughly, what is it really about? It is a place for spiritual newbies or does her emotional healing emphasis hold weight on becoming fully enlightened? I have realized no self and oneness, but her concepts distract me from them as they pull me back into my personal history, personality, etc. But at the same time, I may have unresolved 'trauma' idk. We all have trauma, but how do we know if they are still, "running the show"?

I agree. I think God-Realization is exactly what I need.

This has been another thought in my mind! That my mind was tricking me!!! LOL! Ugh, this work is so fucking hard and confusing. You are right, the mind's nature is to solve problems, real or invented. So I have thought that this is my 'backsliding' or 'ego backlash' of my no self and oneness realization. To do more shadow work, more healing of the emotional body. But I have not realized God. And so this new direction of 'Teal Swan' and 'Emotional healing' may be what is necessary for me to become ready for God's Love.

This is beautifully said and exactly the perspective I need. Life IS testing me. I have grown enough to accumulate self-love. And because of this I have realized no self and oneness. But have I grown enough to handle God's love? To REALIZE God? I don't think so!!! Not at all. My reaction to that statement is I am not ready. This is what I need to work on. Thank you for this!

Do your chakras open in order? Because lately, I have been feeling a ton of pressure and sensation around the third eye. Yet before this, I had a tingling sensation and migraines in the crown chakra which made me feel that my crown was activating before my eye. I agree!

Absolutely! I think this is what Leo is referring to by going up the scale (god realization) instead of down (detachment/nondual awareness). This is why I do not want to leave any part of myself behind in this journey. If my emotional wounds are not healed, I need to heal them and bring them with me to awakening, and then I can– like you say– fully access the capabilities of my spiritual-energetic body. Although, I have heard that people who do not do inner child work yet proceed in their nondual and no self realizations– through a fragmented part of themselves– start to have 'weird experiences'. Like seeing aliens and such haha. What is your opinion on this? I heard it in a video by Matt Kahn and then Leo may have talked about this in the God Realization video, I'm not sure. Very interesting!!! This is a very wise perspective.

I believe I did! When I was in school my studies in Communication led me to serious self-examination/self-awareness. Once I had a bit of self-awareness my negative patterns just started to fix themselves. But did I get everything in my shadow? I have no idea. That's why I take on Teal's work because who knows! How can we be aware of something we're not aware of?

How so? Well, I was at the point in my spiritual journey where I felt total and complete self-love. I believe it was this that allowed me to realize no self and oneness. I had a peak into Truth in these moments and it would come and go throughout my days. And like you said in one of your videos, once you have one of these experiences you start to get really serious about this work. That is exactly what happened to me. I started to get very serious about this work so I branched out towards studying other teachings (before, I had ONLY followed Leo). Then, I got introduced to Teal and it put me back into victimhood, blaming, judgment. It made me believe that I had more work to do on my emotional body and that I wasn't fully integrated so I needed emotional healing. And so I say it "fucked me up" because now I am just so absorbed in my past, thoughts, experiences, that I have lost touch with Truth. I can find Truth when I want but my focus is on reintegration instead of just Being/Truth. It's hard for me to know, is this what I need? Emotional integration? Or, is it because I was fully integrated in the first place that I was even able to reach self-love and thus, my nondual and no self realizations. When Teal talks about 'False Self' I think, hm. Was my self-love a false self? She talks about fragmentation which makes me feel only one aspect of myself realized Truth but I have other aspects of myself that haven't. She also talks a lot about shadow work so I think I have a lot more shadow work to do. I really don't want to discount how far I came in realizing self-love, no self, nonduality. But I also feel that regression is sometimes necessary for fuller or 'integrated' progression. I should also put that my mom has a false self. She thinks she has self-love but she's still at a very low vibration. So this is what is scaring me into believing that I too, am like my mom. And deceived myself into self-love. But my self-love was so empowering. The moments I felt it, it was like I didn't need anything else in the world ever because I could give it to myself. I also was inspired to give it to others and help them get it themselves.

I haven't read much on karma but I just read this quote from a book by Bryon Katie: “The usual awakening that happens through intensive meditation practice is much more jagged: a lightning-flash of insight that gives you immense encouragement and clears up your life to some extent, and afterward a great deal of slogging as that insight settles in and transforms you.” “Then later, there may be another insight or insights, and more clarity, and more slogging through your karmic debris.” Where and how have you guys witnessed karma playing out in your spiritual growth?

Haha not necessarily. More is more work. But I am always up for the growth

What is the difference between Leo's latest video on God-Realization and his previous video, "Guided Exercise for Realizing You Are God "? Would the latter video be going down the scale, whereas his most recent video is going up the scale?