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I've just went today to a Japanese style massage spa and got the regular oil massage. She was really not the best and not worth the money, but I noticed something interesting: She could very quickly and easily recognize when I'm tensed/relaxed, which made me realize that my emotions can for real be mapped on my body. Ok, so I knew this already in my mind that emotions are actually physical and are running through the body, but when she quickly noted it to me to relax it was as though I was easily read, and more than that - many times my body just automatically got tense and a little shaky without even meaning to, and I believe it to be tensions that were stored there unresolved. What do you guys think?

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@Princess Arabia What self-actualization/consciousness work are you doing? Currently I'm doing 15 minutes meditation every day but it doesn't really feel like I'm getting anywhere, and my social media addiction is very great so this basically is an obstacle. But I'm still not getting into life purpose and business and all that stuff. Currently I want to get those addictions handled, build momentum with a vision... It's funny how right now this is all happening - the momentum - as though speaking and being aware of it brings you to a higher place. This is cool and why journaling is cool. I just don't always self reflect (journal). So yeah... Awareness might be key for real. As I see it, we are a biological machine, just like any other thing here on earth, and sometimes I'll need an external knock on the head for looking inwards and building momentum.

@Princess Arabia Apologies for the attitude. I just felt also somewhat like you're trying to speak from a higher place and trying not to get into deep shit

This already isn't the right question, because then I can tell you likewise "I can touch a pencil, can you touch the sensation in your own finger?" Look, I really don't care about all the spiritual wisdom that resides in your head. I'm trying to be practical here so let's keep it at that. I won't even begin to dissect this one and leave it at that. The only thing I'll say, though, is that it is still energy responding to energy. Again, I'm trying to be scientific about this issue. You can have all your esoteric understandings of life as you want. But I rather not hear something like "all is energy", "all is imagination" and take it for granted. The best understanding will be from a place of genuine self observation and inquiry with no arrogance at all (why should there be?). Thanks for answering though

I find it immensely difficult to get off distractions, especially on days when I oversleep, wake up late, and on my phone for a long time. I always find some new addiction whether it's youtube, instagram, or just mindlessly consume self help for the high. I don't have a strong enough motivation to do something else. It's hard to quite the mind and lower dopamine levels once they are fried.

@Princess Arabia Emotion is physical, or else it's just your imagination. The energy isn't contracted, the muscles are. There's no me to be meaning to do anything because I'm a sophisticated biological machine that responds to stimuli and my inner biology. Have you had experience with spa massage? If so, what do you think about it?

@Leo Gura What is 'core personality'? I believe your personality is connected to your strength and values, but which are connected to your DNA. And so what do you mean by blossoming my personality? Is my personality not good that it needs fixing? Maybe your personality is set in a certain way like I said, but then doing consciousness work like journaling and observing yourself can help create new ways of thinking and more playful with beliefs, thus changing your worldview, beliefs and habits for a more better experience. Does that what you mean? 'Core personality' as in authentic self? This implies that currently my personality is highly affected by the way I act from beliefs and suppression, rather than natural flow.

@Leo Gura I know this might seem a bit ridiculous to assume you aren't thinking about your forum that you created and part of your life purpose. But I notice that you attract many people who just come here to argue. And really dumb down the forum a lot by arguing, criticizing, judging, calling names, who is more "enlightened". This is really not to talk down on you and what you've created, but I think it's something very valuable to consider and hopefully you won't hate me for saying it. After all, you can learn a lot about yourself from the people you attract. Coming in peace brother. If I said anything inappropriate then I didn't mean to.

@ZenSwift I am familiar with this issue. It's like a loop of always looking for another technical step... Suggestion: Get off YouTube, social media, phone or any other distraction. Pull out a journal and make a quick assessment of your life - Where are you currently in life, where have you been, where are you going, what do you want, what are your biggest fears, what have you tried... And when you start journaling all of this your life becomes more in the front of your mind and you think about it more, and it is just natural for creative thoughts to rise among them because being aware of your life brings more 'room' for thinking in new ways about all of that... You start feeling more empowered... And naturally more thoughts about what you want will arise. Really, don't try to force thinking about what you want. Focus on observing (journaling) your current life - that's all, and that's great and empowering in itself. As a bonus you might very well get a new vision for your life. My small take

@Leo Gura Bro you literally have a video talking about why we procrastinate where you mention the concept of homeo-stasis which helps us to survival. 'Just taking action' isn't enough for your complex survival system that tries to maintain itself as it is. I see you recently talk a lot here about taking action, like discarding the fact that change is very difficult and not a simple problem of being lazy. Action isn't the cure. Maybe if a person is highly developed like you that his lazy day is simply because he's tired and not because of some survival mechanism like most of us, then maybe you just need to hit him with some classic self-help motivation. Like this: just seems like toxic orange to me.

Why do people take DMT? It just looks scary and frightening. How does this help for growth?

Why do people take DMT? It just looks scary and frightening. How does this help for growth?

Bro what the hell? Oh hell nah. That shit scared me. I ain't gonna be taking this shit anytime soon.

@Leo Gura Sorry, I meant strengths all along. I mixed it with the 'value', my bad. Are you talking in the biological sense, that we are all genetically very unique and have strengths that resonate with us stronger than others? Or are you talking in a metaphysical sense that you are the thing that is subjectively experiencing all of that and thus you don't really change? In any case, I don't think I got you on the thing on what changes and what doesn't.

@Leo Gura Strengths don't change? Bro I'm confused

This song came up straight to my head when I read your title:

Are there people here that have a life purpose that doesn't have to do with spirituality and consciousness and all that? Really asking out of curiosity

@Princess Arabia Everyone that's here knows that they are at the website of Actualized.org. Doesn't matter the sub-forum, they are still here because of Actualized.org

@Carl-Richard Thanks man, you made it much more clear for me. Your claim also suggests that most people who jump on this path started from a much more neurotic place than the average person, and so you have here a wider spectrum with with only a few people that are well developed. I was just saying that over time it seems that the number of people who are very neurotic is becoming much larger in ratio to the highly developed. Is it a good thing? Don't know, but it's harder so sort out the good advice and the advice of people who'll claim they understand it all when they don't. Obviously I'm not saying that as though I'm something special. I know I have so much to grow

@Leo Gura The OP literally asked if your innate values change over time and you said they don't... help me understand

@Nivsch Those examples that you gave are 'important' not because of some innate values of nature and tribalism, but because our psychology and body are shaped for this kind of environment for over a million years of human evolution. Being in nature and spending time with people just clicks better. Certainly modern living isn't that great for living in a psychologically good environment, but after all it's us humans who created this modern environment lol. Why? Well because of all the stories that were created by humans that brought many people together and try answering the deep questions of life and many beliefs and cultures came and went, leaving remnants behind. And now you have this fucked up society that believes capitalism/socialism is the cure ideology for this world that will bring prosperity. The human condition comes with ups and downs, and randomly got to this point

@Leo Gura Are you implying that innate values in humans don't change? Like, I know that we all have morality systems ingrained in our DNA (what to do in certain dilemmas) that helped our survival over millions of years, and perhaps we all still share much similar values than not (like not to kill, fairness, don't steal). So by not changing do you mean they were determined when you were born? And that trying to change then is futile?

@Butters Read the book Homo-deus by Yuval Noah Harari. He talks a lot about the future of AI and humanity, and how our current ideologies, ways of thinking and politics will have to shift because of this revolution.

@Bobby_2021 Can't say I agree on that. This forum is not the only place in the universe where you get "the real shit". There are also other places to find great minds. People do get pissed off, and that's why you need to be more careful when pissing off a mod vs pissing off some common user, this is how it is.