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@thisintegrated Yeah, I can't imagine a little marshmallow like an INFP being good for an EXTJ, they're so busy and often quite militant - they don't have good listening skills. INFP's are looking for emotions and soft feelings to share with their partner, so I've never really understood why people ship them with thinking judgers so frequently. I think a healthy ENFJ would be the best match, but they're quite rare to find in good condition. The Fe + Ni has that kind of "swallow you up, you belong to me, you are part of my tribe forever" kind of affect that the INFP is looking for. And they're judgers, so they're still able to allow some sense of groundedness. We like Te to some extent, but not to the point where it takes over our alone-time routines, prevents open ended exploration and stifles us with a schedule. It just seems odd to me to put an INFP, who is terrible at Te, with Te-doms, while overlooking their need for emotional validation and support from a kind, present partner.

I never really got into The Office to be honest. I had a roommate way back when who had season 2 on DVD and I remember watching it a few times and it got kind of old, however, I like MeatCanyon's interpretation of the series, along with a quote "This is how Creed sees everyone.":

That's horrible, my heart goes out to his victims. Imagine thinking you're in safe hands, that someone is going to help you get through something and you're feeling excited about learning secrets to the universe and making great leaps in your life only to have some charlatan take your life away from you? And especially while completely high out of your mind, the terror that his victims went through and it seems like they didn't even get any justice for it - he is still practicing isn't he?

I don't know about this particular thread, but I do agree with you that this happens a lot on this forum, where people start getting into strange beliefs that are known to be hallmark symptoms of mental illness and a lot of the people here go along with it in order to come across as open-minded, when what the person needs is a wake-up call that something is off with them mentally. Letting people know when they are looking like they are going over the edge could save their life, a lot of time on their end, and prevent many tears. When I was going through a psychotic episode, I posted a lot of weird things, too, and had a lot of very abnormal beliefs that after a year on medication and a lot of self introspection, I was able to manage - but actually going through those symptoms was literal hell and if a person had of been honest with me and told me the truth that it looked like I was going through a mental health crisis, then I would have taken their opinion into consideration, but because a lot of this kind of stuff is accepted - many people who are mentally ill fall under the radar, or worse, they are told they are psychics, or shamans and stuff like this. If you're going to be open-minded, you have to be open-minded to the possibility that there is a problem presenting itself as well. So thanks for this. Good post, honest answer.

1. The implications for me are that I know that whatever choice I make, that it was already preplanned, but that there is the illusion of free will so it still feels like there is free will, not much has changed from when I thought I made my own choices to learning that I don't. I think, because the message was so positive for not only myself, but the rest of God's creations, that I was able to accept it without much collateral damage. Sometimes the ego comes back in strongly, especially after a period of self reflection I can get into a bit of a funk, but I try to remember the lessons that I learned, that everything is going to be okay for everyone and this helps. 2. To be honest, I have a hard time motivating myself to make changes in the real world, like taking action and so forth, but as far as making psychological changes, I do this quite often and feel my life slowly, over time, becoming more clear. Even though everything is predetermined, we can still live in the illusion of it not being the case, so you have free will to do things instead of doing nothing, although you can do nothing if you choose to, it's just that this was already decided, but the illusion is so good. The reason to do anything at all is so that you can be one of the people who have some awakening experiences - they are personalized just for you, for what you need and so whatever you learn will be tailored to your path. If you do nothing at all and don't try to remove some of the dirt from your lens then it will never happen. The lack of free will is outside of the game, toggling the game and moving the characters around, but in this game, you do get to make choices - it's just that they were already destined to be those choices, anyways. It's hard to explain without stepping outside of the game for a few minutes, but when you do, you will get it.

Back in 2016, my autoimmune disease flared up for the first and worst time and I was worried I could die from it, so I did a lot of self introspection to get myself ready for what could happen. Grueling days, for hours, overturning everything in my psyche, and eventually I came to the point where I knew I would have to work through my fear of death as that was the predominant problem that was coming up. So I sat with those emotions, and listened to some music while looking at a nature picture and let myself go through the fear fully, while studying everything about this picture and offering my full appreciation for the present moment. When I did this, this mixture of letting go of my psychology, followed by going through the fear of death, followed by showing absolute appreciation for the present moment is when all of the dirt that was on my lens was cleared and I could see God right there in the picture and it said "I exist" - and what it felt to be was a single point of unified love, that was outside of spacetime, that all souls that ever were or will be were connected to and had always been connected to and what it showed to me, was that it was a sort of evolutionary process, that this was the next step in human awareness and development, to be able to live life connected to spirit in this way. It told me that my struggling in life was a preplanned process created to force me to properly introspect so that I could let go of all of my old paradigms to allow the possibility of God's grace to enter into me, and it said that life was a miracle, that existence, that the fact that there is anything at all is absolutely amazing. It said that the prophecy surrounding its nature is true and that its plan for its creations, what it is trying to do for us is to bring this unified quality, where we see all of creation and are connected to it and can witness its glory in everyday mundane life. It is trying to bring a sense of heaven to earth through this process. And that's pretty much it - I had a few other awakenings, but none were quite as clear as this first one, which was what felt to be a blessing bestowed on my life, a medal that I had earned for putting in the work. It specifically said that everything was preplanned, that all things were working in a perfect divine order that included all the plants and animals and such things, but due to its multidimensional nature, and the singular nature of human beings, that we can't readily see this order in the chaos.

It could be, I hope so. The more I write the more I realize that I am more bitter than I thought I was. I thought I was over a lot of this stuff as I'd done quite a lot of work on myself in relation to this over the years, but, for whatever reason it has been coming up the past few weeks. I need to look into it, because bitter and angry is not my cup of tea and I don't see that kind of mentality being sustainable. It's possible that I became an incel in my own right, took on a victimizing mentality and let it control my inner narrative. Gross. I just don't want to end up being someone with really strong opinions that don't do them any good, that solidify and turn me into an ogre or something like that - I feel like if I just avoid this part of this forum, and let people do and say what they want, that it won't get to me. People are going to do what they want, think how they want, feel how they want, why is it any skin off my nose at the end of the day? Thanks for the response, hope you have a good rest of your day.

God is beautiful, loving, curious and kind. It is trying to create heaven on earth for all of its creations and to evolve in that direction, but as of right now, only some people are privy to God's true glory. But the goal, the plan, is so that it can witness itself through the eyes of all of its creations, to see the miracle and beauty of life and to love everything with a deep enthusiasm. But we are a work in progress, we are moving towards this, and there are steps. Maybe we will get there, maybe we won't, but it is trying its best to move towards this. I think, that when we pass away, we return to this glory, so even if it is something you don't obtain in life - that it is something we are all destined for in death, that selfishness, hatred, pain, all of that doesn't exist in the afterlife. That we experience it here so that we have the polarity to understand what all the good stuff means. You know? If you only ate sugar for your entire life, it wouldn't taste as sweet, you wouldn't have anything else to compare it to. I know that dealing with the selfishness of the world is difficult, there is a lot of pain and suffering that seems to have no place, but there is a place for it and there is a plan to change this around.

A lot of the dudes here are emotionally unhinged in various ways, I've noticed this. If you make a statement that they don't like - such as not really having good experiences with men, and not wanting other women to have to go through the same struggles you went through - they will insult you, call you all sorts of names for your own bad experiences, only for you to later find out that they are actually nothing more than suicidal incels. It kind of throws me for a loop when you express your opinions, only to have someone call you all sorts of names and then, as it turns out, they're just a super damaged person taking it out on you. Just my two cents. I genuinely feel bad for a lot of the men here, but at the same time a lot of you guys have really messed up views of the opposite sex, so much so that it kind of low key messes with my own views of men. I don't know what to think of this new generation of twenty-something year olds, it's like you are both way more passive and aggressive at the same time, super dysregulated and it's like the genuine qualities of true masculinity are disappearing. I don't know fully what to say, in some ways, society is screwing you over, but at the same time, I don't see this new generation as being good parents, having lasting relationships, or any of that. Then again, maybe guys were always like this, and I just didn't see it because I didn't have a forum to attend where men are so open about their struggles. It reads to me like two different species trying to work together. What I gather, from looking through many of these threads, is that a lot of men just don't see women as people, they view them as objects for gratification - and that coming to understand them, their needs, their wants, their dreams, seems to take a backseat. Clearly I need to reassess my views, I wish I had found this forum in my early twenties when I still had rose tinted glasses. I don't think that men and women can genuinely get along for longer than what is necessary to reproduce, and I think the gap between the two is only going to get more severe. We're going to see way more men in the upcoming generations not knowing how to talk to women, how to interact with them and losing out on what they are looking for - sex, and women will be stuck with weak men who lack masculinity, who don't know how to interact with them and they won't be able to love and respect them. I think I may take my leave from this section of the forum for good, because I don't like the idea of coming off as bitter and miserable, it doesn't sit right with me, but at the same time, I see the trend in how the world is turning out and it's hard not to feel that way - I don't want this forum to convert me into someone who irredeemably could never trust a male again, but upon further inspection, the collective psychology of this place is kind of damaging - if there was an equal amount of feminine energy here, it might be different.

My experiences gave me the knowledge that there is no free will, as everything has a plan, but it is disguised by an illusion of being completely random - mostly because humans do not have the ability to be able to see in as many directions as consciousness does - that under normal circumstances, we can't see the full picture into what this plan is. What the plan is, is that the universe/God/consciousness wants to evolve to witness itself as itself through its creations and so it has been growing in consciousness, creating all sorts of offshoots and various things in order to create beings that have the capability of seeing it. It is trying to awaken to itself, in the same way as when we grow and develop we are trying to waken to ourselves as well. It wants to know itself through you, while you are aware of it as a part of you, and so it creates as many different situations and variables in order to do this through many, many different eyes - and eventually a few of them strike gold and can see through the game for a momentary lapse of time. You do have the ability to get up in the morning, to go to sleep, to eat, to walk around, to live, to kill yourself, all of these things - but they are all preplanned as part of a gradual awakening process in which God unfolds its true self and unveils its majesty to its creations. Only a limited number of people are given this gift, this miracle and it is not one to squander when you find it. People spend their whole lives looking to be witness to the miracle of creation and never find it, so if you do, cherish it. God will sacrifice a hundred thousand, just so a select few have the ability to witness. You are either chosen to see, or you're not, and all of that is part of your destiny. The good news is, I believe we are all "picked" at the end of our lives to witness this phenomenon, and that we are given back our true free will as a gift. I believe that we have these limited lives, that some of us sacrifice knowing the truth so that others can see it - that their work isn't in vain, that we are all given this gift at some point. That we need limitation, lack of free will and polarity in order to come to understand the meaning of the miracle of life, so that we appreciate what we are given and what we are to soon inherit.

Law of attraction is real - "sort of", but people are delusional about how they use it. They think it means that if you perform certain actions or do certain things, think a certain way that it will attract into your life a particular outcome, and if you think about people who live in places in the world where everything is outside of their control - like war zones or impoverished countries, then you can see that the law of attraction when used in that manner makes no sense. It isn't about piling on your beliefs and attempting to control the universe in your favour - it's about inspecting your beliefs, letting go of expectations and through this process allowing the universe to work through you - and it will bring to you certain experiences and whatnot that allow you to have a deeper understanding of the reality around you. People just want to use it in the wrong way because they want to feel like they have more control over their lives than they actually do, and people will put all sort of beliefs into their pot to cherry pick and convince themselves that they are getting closer to what they are looking for, when in reality, they've just put another layer of ideation over the universe's genuine message.

@Gesundheit2 No dude, that makes sense. I like to eat the extra bagel.

@JoeVolcano I'm not talking about memento mori, memento mori is just the practice of contemplating your own death, this is a thread about suicidal ideation.

@Gesundheit2 It was quite automatic, I didn't really give my actions much thought in the moment but I did afterwards; I just felt responsible for his life because no one was paying him any attention, it was starting to get late and I knew that the weather could get into the teens and that he might die there and it gave me a sense of worry and guilt that people get into these situations and people just walk by them every day and some of them suffer because of it. He was right outside my place, I had just bought the whole pizza and I felt like an ass, going into my warm home, with my food while someone was sitting out there freezing to death. The next morning the blanket and food were gone so I assumed he used the blanket and took the food when he woke up. It stuck out in my mind as an action specifically because I hadn't really premeditated on it, and during times when I wonder about what kind of person I am, if I am good or bad, I think back on these moments and can see that when push comes to shove if I can do something for another human being who is absolutely going to perish without a blanket, then I will do that thing. But then again, I've also done some pretty bad things in life, so I can't get a good gauge on if I am "good" or "bad", I know that it's more complicated than that, but I just want to know. I didn't do it to feel good about myself or anything, I just registered it as an emergency situation for that man. The outcome that I was looking for was to prevent someone's death, I guess.

I think that the point of it is that it's just a part of our evolutionary history that we are evolving out of. We had to create some form of narrative to understand what was happening to us in order to progress. But this narrative glosses over the reality that God is all around us, in everything that we do and are. As we are growing and trying to understand what we are, so too is God. When I suffered the most, and went through an ordeal, I learned a lot about the nature of reality through deconstructing myself, and what I learned is that it was all supposed to happen this way, that the suffering was the motivator to look within myself and without it I would have continued to evade death for as long as I could. When I could see death for what it was and embrace it, that's when I was able to see reality clearly. I think that the purpose of the illusion is here for a few reasons, one of them is that when we die, we are given many gifts. And you don't want to open them too early, they are meant for you when it is time to leave. If we remembered everything, then there would be no contrast, so when we do finally get everything we want, there is that polarity to appreciate it. Another reason for the illusion is because there is a lot of information to take in when it comes to dealing with the world, if we were to experience everything in its full entirety, I think it would be too much for a human being to handle, and so we have to cherry pick a narrative to live through partially blind because we are for the most part still just animals. We like to think we are beyond that, but we have little families and live in our cute little houses and eat from our little tables and need a sense of normalcy and repetition to feel safe and orderly - humans don't do well when things are chaotic and overwhelming, and so God has given us Maya to keep ourselves from becoming too overstimulated by reality.

I mean, it probably exists in some form, but not in the way that most people use it. People use that stuff to maximize on egoic, petty things and end up becoming delusional. You can attract certain things to you and there is a higher power, but it's more like letting go of things, and then seeing what remains - if that makes sense. What you let go of, and what stays in your pan of gold that you sift through is what is "yours". So LOA is less about trying to attract certain situations and making them happen and more about letting go of expectations. I feel depressed by the seemingly random nature of reality as well, and I think it is a bit of both, I think that there are a lot off offshoots and tendrils, but that there is an order to it that maybe we just can't see from our limited frameworks and this order includes not just humans, but all of mother nature and its other creations as well. From my understanding, God is evolving to witness itself as itself through its creations and so it creates a lot of different tendrils to scout out the best possibility to witness itself. The universe is self aware and wants to observe what it is creating and it does so through the intelligence of humans and perhaps other life forms if they are out there. I don't know what the reasoning for it is, or what the universe's ultimate goal with all of this is, but there does seem to be a plan in place for knowing itself.

I'm still seriously flirting with it. Suicide is bae. I've spent the last two months with it on my mind nearly non-stop is some form or another, either trying to reconnect with the other side, to try and glean into some form of solution from my "people" there into this feeling of depression and low key angst. I've tried learning all about NDE's and what to expect, I've tried humour and self introspection and nothing seems to get rid of this obsessive morbid curiosity. Literally the only thing that is keeping me here is that I couldn't stand knowing that I ruined the tail end of my parent's lives by ending myself. I can't help but visualize their pain over the whole thing, and just when they've started retirement. It seems like ending it now would be too selfish and cruel. And on top of it I have these pets that I am responsible for. My cat Sandy only trusts me, if I leave then she will never again know what it is like to be snuggled. My dog would be confused and would look for me around the house, but I think she would move on okay after some time. I'm just looking forward to it so much, and waiting fifteen years until my pets and parents pass away feels like forever, I don't know how I am going to manage feeling normal in this life, for who I am. Nothing feels good or right, and I can't fully pinpoint why I feel this way. Maybe I've just been repressing too many things and it's call coming up, especially recently, I've been doing a lot of shadow work, trying to understand myself a little bit better, but nothing seems to do the trick. I'm super bummed out that I have to live in this terrible life in this body that I hate in a world that I don't belong in for another decade and a half, possibly more. I wish I would just get cancer or a heart attack or something and then the responsibility of having to wait around would be nullified. I feel super guilty for having these feelings, because even though I am not young or healthy, I have a comfortable life, the kind of life that many people who aren't privilege would dream of having - and I feel guilt because I know that they would have done so much more with it than I did. I just want to wake up in the morning and to not feel bitter and confused about my emotions, and resentful and then ultimately guilty, like I don't even have the right to feel upset. And perhaps I don't? I don't fucking know. But this ideation, this absolute heart-wrenching longing for the other side never goes away, I just keep thinking, once I am there and not here everything will make sense. Ya dig?

This is why I gave up on men. They don't teach this stuff to women and men kind of play into it in order to get what they're looking for. We live in our girlish fantasy bubbles for a long time before a few bad (or realistic depending on how you interpret it) experiences pop our bubbles. Women want connection, domination, love, snuggles and all that, and men are just interested in the act of sex itself. They're looking for relief and maybe to reinstate a sense of being a man, hard to know, as I am not one and still don't fully understand them. And you can't change that, it's biology, it is what it is. When I hear women say "I just want a good guy to do this for me, or be that for me" I don't think that they realize what they're getting themselves in to. It's quite amazing to me that humans have managed to accomplish as much as we have, that we are able to raise families together and in general, live in a somewhat integrated society because if you really look into it, men and women are like two different species. That said, even though I don't really like how a man's mentality works in relation to how they view women, I still feel bad for them when they're unable to get sex. When I was a young woman, it wasn't hard at all, you just had to show up somewhere where men were and that's about it. It seems like things have changed a lot in the past ten years as well, when I was in my 20's, it seemed like people were much more connected. You could go out and meet friends with a group of other friends and get to know new guys that way. Nowadays it looks like people are way more isolated. Too bad there isn't an easier solution for incels. I feel like a lot of them would not have been if they had been born just a few years earlier, you know? Like a lot of my just average guy friends had no problems finding women, just through mutual social connections. I look at a lot of the men here who complain about how hard they have it finding women, and "back in my day" most of them would have done just fine. Hope you find a nice girl or two, don't give up, and don't off yourself over something as silly as not getting enough pussy. You're still young, and there's more important things to off yourself over, like mental illness or social isolation or losing your health, but the lack of vagina is a totally fixable problem.

I get that, too. Sometimes I will look at a post on here that I wrote like a year ago and wonder, "Why did I say that? Why did I react in that way?" And then I get this feeling in my gut of disgust in relation to certain habits, egoic dramatic reactions and so forth and try to work through it. I realize that we are all on a path of growth and everyone has acted in a cringe way at some point in time, no one is completely perfect. Some people do it more often, some do it less often. The point is, the fact that you can look at your past self and see where things went wrong and that you've improved are a testament to your growth as an individual. We are works in progress, we aren't built complete. Personally, I experience self-cringe often, even just looking at myself from a month ago, I try to improve on my reactions, esp. when it comes to the ego and it's little dramas. I would view it as a positive thing, it means that you are self-aware and want to improve. People that don't experience cringe or don't self reflect never grow as people, they remain stuck doing the same stupid stuff and never growing from it. Have you ever met someone like that, someone that basically just keeps hitting their head against a wall over and over and won't take two seconds to look in the mirror and ask themselves why they are doing that? Well, you're not like that, if you experience regret for an action you once had. It's a good thing. Hope that helps.

That is terrible advice as unhealthy people can make healthy people unhealthy. People with personality disorders and other issues shouldn't be leaning in on healthy people to "fix" them. It's clear that after years of trolling this site and others, looking for men to fix her, OP hasn't learned anything. Have any of them fixed you yet? No. Because only you can fix you. SMH. Seriously, grow out of this need for other people to fix and cater to you, it's so old it isn't even funny.

I don't know, I think if you want to look better that's totally valid. Plus, being in shape is healthy and that's a good thing. Do what you feel is best for you, don't worry about what other people say, you're not going to turn into a narcissist from exercise, lol. Personally, I don't place a lot of importance in appearance, for myself or others, but at the same time, looks are indeed important in this world. You'll get ahead in life much easier if you look better, this is a fact, for men and for women. Nothing wrong with wanting to be pretty and sharing your results, you clearly put a lot of work into yourself and you're doing great, so keep it up! All the best.

Awww, I hear you, I always used to hate dating for that reason. It's hard to put yourself out there, being vulnerable with people, getting to know them and then not having it work out. But you know, it's not on you, and if it doesn't work out because of either you or them, then this is ultimately a good thing because your heart would get broken even more if you end up with someone that you don't want to be with and visa versa. Love takes time and effort to find, please try your best not to let experiences that don't work out get to you. For most men and women, it takes a lot of trial and error to find someone that they click with. This is a good thing. People are all so different, they come from so many different walks in life that if you're just dating short term, you'll never really know why it didn't work out. It more often than not has absolutely nothing to do with you at all. I don't know if that helps at all, but just remember to keep it fun, light and carefree to start with. Don't put your heart on the line so quickly, you're just mixing and mingling. Remind yourself, that there are many variables that you don't initially see for why things don't work. You'll never have the full picture, it's not you.

I don't believe this and I will tell you why, but I also prefer that other people choose to believe what they want so as I write this, these are just my personal experiences, I think everyone needs to derive what death means for themselves and themselves alone. Back in 2016, my autoimmune disease started and I had to do a lot of work on myself. Mentally, emotionally. Around that time it was the worst that it has ever been since and I had to come to terms with death in a very real, very tangible way. What I did, not knowing that spirituality was a thing, was that I looked into every area of my ego that I could find and dissected it, why do I act the way that I do? I naturally started to meditate near the end of this process and had many moments of just being. When I finally let go of the need to be alive, I listened to some music and looked at some pictures of nature and I found God in it. It wasn't like imagination, like what you think is something that will happen, it was more like, what we place over everything needs to be looked into and removed so that we can see that God is literally right underneath all of it. Just there. And there was an underlying structure to reality that is so hard to articulate, but it let me know that the entire evolutionary process was so that God could witness itself in its creations, it felt like, although it was there the whole time, that something was just as activated within it as it was within myself. I learned that everything in the universe is in its right place, that there is a plan even though life seems on the outside of all of it, to be so chaotic. I learned that most of us can't see this order in the mess. Sometimes I forget this. I heard the sound of everyone that ever was and will be congratulating me for waking up to this and it felt like everyone was connected just outside of spacetime to this singular point of love, that nothing ever died and was always right there the whole time. I realized, that from this vantage point, that I would never die. This was the ultimate structure of God, all its creations connected together in unison moving towards this singularity. I had other awakenings where I felt my soul family around me, like I was in a room full of other bubbles of awareness, that I was always connected to them and always will be, and I also feel as though I felt a partner, but that experience was the most vague, so I question it sometimes. But the soul family, the singularity, all of that was clear as day, it wasn't like being in some imaginative place, it was like having the curtains removed, blinders taken off and that I could see the underlying anatomy to all of creation itself. I think there is actually a structure to all of this that can be tapped into, that I wouldn't just trust that whatever you imagine is what you create, I think that it's more like, throwing even that away, just keep digging into your psychology and ego and then letting the idea of even living for one more day, let that go. Literally let your life go, and so too will all the ideas and then you'll be left with just God, and when you find it, then allow it to tell you what's really going on, don't overlay it with any ideation.

I mean, I'm not shaming you for it, if this is what you want to do that's fine, I just think you'll be less likely to find true love if she is in it for your money and not for who you are as a person and I think that people deserve to find love for who they are and not just what they can provide. I had a dream about being a sugar baby last night, actually. I was living in a house with a rich older fat dude and in this dream I was in my early 20's and I remember putting on a lot of makeup in the mirror and getting ready to have sex with him and I felt really gross. He was like a mafia boss or something, the house looked like it came from the 1920's. Anyways, when I woke up I felt really grossed out and confused by the dream. I think women that get with men just because they are rich, if there isn't an attraction to the guy, that they have to override a lot of their natural instincts. We do like providers, but if there isn't an emotional component to it, then we won't fall in love. We get kind of grossed out and sex becomes mechanical. Think Melania and Trump, there's no way she is actually attracted to that man, and she probably has had to really overcome a lot of disgust to be with him. What if you got with a girl and did not let her know that you had a lot of money and allowed her to get to know you for who you are, love you for who you are, and 'then' treated her like a sugar baby after she falls in love? Then she wouldn't be reliant or expectant on your money, and the money would just be the icing on the cake? You can do both, but you just need to hold out on giving her things. I don't know, I'm kind of limited in this area, as I have never been or felt the need to be a sugar baby.

If you're going into it where she is relying on you for money, which is what sugar babies are, women who get with guys strictly for having things paid for them, it's going to be hard to keep her around unless you have tons of money to spend on her. She might love your money, but what will you do if you run out? She'll look for the next best guy who can fill her pockets. It's not her fault, that's just how women like this are, but expecting them to actually love you for who you are is most likely not going to happen. But never say never. I guess my question would be, do you think you can only attract a nice woman if you offer her a lot of money, or is this just something that you find appealing? And why so, why does giving a woman more than she deserves in your hard earned money something that appeals to you?