Miguel1

That would make sense. Maybe he should go have sex with a scientifically created sex robo.

This is a pointless question. 1. Whatever answer I give you, can only either demotivate you or set too high expectations for yourself, which leads to demotivation. 2. I am probably somewhat of a natural and my personality type is ENFJ, which is like the most ideal or at the very least, top 3 for game and socialization. I am also gifted with pretty good looks. 3. I have no clue how many girls I have even approached, hence I wrote such a big gapped number, 5-10k. I never counted. I was approaching girls for years before even knowing that people counted approaches, or even wrote infields. And even if I had counted, say I approach a group of 10 girls, is that 1 girl or 10 girls approached? 4. Most of my lays came after a long period of not much results. Extremely steep learning curve. So the lay % of my last year compared to my first year(s) is day and night. Why does counting the average % in this case even matter?

@Squeekytoy Exactly. Besides, women have ”nut needs” too. They get very horny, especially during ovulation. Also, if you are a man who is getting lots of sex… I find that oftentimes I am being sexualized and ”used” as a sex object by the girls I meet and approach. At the very least, happens to me more often than I do to girls. In fact, I never even use girls as a sperm dump because I don’t have to due to abundance. I treat them with respect.

What you give the other is a fun time. That is completely different than all these provider stuff that frankly, just comes across compensative and needy in the beginning. They come across like you have something to prove to the girls. And this is the opposite of fun.

Of course it is worthwhile. How is it not? How is approaching in a concert where you go fairly rarely more effective? Or even a yoga class where you can't really hit on that many girls because you will build a reputation there then. Especially since you can't fuck-up your social calibrations as you can in a club. If I go out a weekend and approach 10-50 girls, I can convert that to so many dates for the next week that I don't even have time for. On top of pulling girls home the same night oftentimes. If I started from zero, I would say that in a month or two, I would have so many girls that I'm seeing regularly (once every week or every other week), that I wouldn't even have time to go on dates with new girls. How the hell is cold approaching not 100x more effective? Not only that, but it develops you as a man, as a strong charismatic character.

Girls do not expect anything serious if you do not lead them on when you meet them / are on a date with them. You don't need to explicitly talk about it. Unless you have serious experience in this, at least have the decency to not talk like you are an expert.

All this is just avoiding the thing you need to do the most. Just focus on even getting sex first before you push for the stuff that comes afterwards. If you need money to survive, you don’t focus on what is the best for humanity in the big picture.

Dude. 1. That has nothing to do with love. I’ve had amazing friends with benefits and there was no human-love involved. 2. No one suffers and no one is treated like a toy when having sex with me. Stop this crap.

Are you sure he said? I must have missed this too.

Bullshit. I’ve had too many ONS where sex has been good. A lot of them are not good but it’s not because there is no love. It’s simply because you don’t know each other sexually that well yet.

Guys, if you approach and talk to 1000 girls, all of this nonsense won't matter anymore. So do that first. Coming from a guy who has approached 5-10k girls.

Of course social calibration is key. Not caring about what people think of you simply means here that you are not afraid of rejections. You are proactive. You approach people. But don’t be an idiot.

This. Let go of things you can't control and focus on your life purpose. That's how you will help solve the problems of humankind the best.

I have everything else I want in life, except a fulfilling career that is successful (yet). I get a lot of joy (and get into flow often) from my work and I have beautiful visions for the future that sometimes makes me cry due to how beautiful it is. The work is also the most meaningful job I can possibly do.

This is not the case at all. With dating, the basic assumption is fun and casual in the beginning. Coming from a guy who has been on hundreds of dates.

Social skills itself is not the problem. The problem is the HUGE PILES AND LAYERS of self-defeating idealogies and beliefs + the endless approval and validation seeking and the caring of what people think of them. Aka, inner game. If you fix this, most of your problems will be gone when socializing. When I socialize, I am not doing anything fancy. For real, it’s like I am talking to my 10 year old sister. It’s a joke. My social success is mostly all just how grounded and positive my energy is. I am talking from experience on both ends.

The short answer is talk to everyone you see and build up your social state. And spread that fun energy.

Yes of course. But a girl with perfect boobs is still gonna have amazing boobs 10 years later no matter how much you grow up

Social skills is not rocket science. It's not some hard technical thing like building a video game.

Can we make the opener a must-read in the rules for whoever comes to this sub for the first time?

What exactly is stopping you from rolling solo? I do most of my game solo and its the fucking best.

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Duh.

I see. Well, then you definitely need to cold approach. Relying on spiritual girls in a spiritual community for a very high sex drive can become very devilish. But as Leo said, you can develop your personality to become more energetic that fits the club environment more. It's crazy tho. You say you have a high sex drive. I don't know if I have a SUPER high then or am I just a sex addict, but during my off seasons from my work, I would probably prefer to have sex 1-3 times a day. I've had 4 long-term gfs and none has been able to keep up with the drive, I don't think even close. Sex quantity-wise, I am most satisfied when I am single and I'm seeing a ton of girls (just not leading anyone on). But the quality of the sex is not nearly as satisfying as in a long-term monogamous + it takes me a shit ton of time to maintain this lifestyle. As far as my career and work, I am extremely ambitious. So that is probably directly correlated with my testosterone level and libido. --- What is stopping you from learning to cold approach better?

Are you talking about your spiritual community or in cold approach? Or both?