Miguel1

Interesting view through the fact that they skipped stage blue. I would add that because of social media, kids and teenagers have learned to be more narcissist than ever. Or at least have more narcissist tendencies more than ever. Social media is really all about your ego being validated.

I am rarely that way nowadays anymore. But yes, especially if I am in that state, I force myself even more to approach. Because I know that if I don’t then it’s just gonna spiral downwards even further. To hell. The key when you are in such negative state, is to allow yourself to approach more people like guys and not attractive girls. Basically you gotta lower your standards. Altho going for the hardest set in this state will shake you our of it the fastest, if you have the self-esteem to handle a brutal rejection from a hard set. If you don’t, then you fuck yourself up even further.

How are you feeling when you talk to girls? Are you feeling good in your own body? Are you happy? Are you having fun? Are you feeling confident? And like you are on top of the world? Are you feeling light and playful? Or are you anxious, nervous, stifled, fearful, insecure, closed off in your body?

Don't neglect the 1. option, your energy. Obviously it is the hardest one to admit because then the issue is on you. But when it comes to socializing and pickup, energy and vibe is everything.

Flow state. You can get into flow state while socializing too. It activates your best socializing qualities like charisma, confidence, wittyness, humour, strong sexy eye contact, good body language etc. And not only activates, but gets them online into full 100% capacity.

What happened to you is most likely because: 1. Shitty, self-defeating, negative, creepy energy and / or 2. They were in a really bad place emotionally when you approached them. For example, if someone is crying and there's a friend trying to solace her, probably not the best time to approach. and / or 3. They just literally got harassed by 3 different guys in a row approaching them

Whenever I get rejected, I get into state. The harsher the rejection, the faster I get into state

Good thread. Have you seen his only course, that he mentions in almost every video?

Lol. Time for me to log off from this forum for the day

Like I said, if you want to really find out, do your own extensive research and reach out to whoever you need to reach out to. I just pointed out some quick snippets through my phone while on the go. I dont have skin in this game. I have already moved on from Rupert Spira due to Leo’s teachings. The cheating was just cherry on top. For me, if a bunch of people in the community, especially staff members and retreat participants reports such stuff, it is something to be taken seriously, instead of just dismissing it, because your guru is so ”conscious and awakened that there is no way he would do such thing”. It’s not like this is some new phenomenon. It’s more common than you think among spiritual and religious gurus. Of course it is.

This is how all these gurus can keep doing their dirty stuff. How do you think all these other gurus got caught for their shams? If multiple people report the same thing, there is a case to be taken seriously. As a guru, a person in authority and power, you should not be having sex with your students, let alone cheat on your wife.

Yeah. Rupert fucking Spira out of all the non-dual teachers.

Anyway, do your own research and come to your own conclusions. I dont want to invest too much energy into him and his cheating and this whole drama anymore. I got immensely a lot of value from him 4 years ago and I’m deeply grateful. But this is just super disappoiting, on top of everyhing Leo has called out on non-dualist. This cheating is just cherry on top. The final nail in the coffin for me.

Haha Leo would get along with this guy, maybe I’ll invite you both to a Crocodile Dinner:

See this group on Facebook. And I think you can find on Reddit people discussing it too. I’m on phone now so it’s a bit tricky to dig everything out. But not only did he cheated on his wife, he seemingly is DATING one of the student he cheated with. Also, he had a big fall-out with his teacher Francis Lucille. Altho, they tried to do PR by recently doing a podcast together. https://www.reddit.com/r/nonduality/comments/1cbipcf/rupert_spira_francis_lucille_podcast_episode/ Sorry for the messy text. I’m on phone and on the go so it’s hard to properly organize everything.

Had it not been for Leo constantly calling non-dualists out, I would have still been deeply stuck in their brainwashing. And I had a lot of resistance at first.. my brainwashing would not have been broken easily. Side note: it seems to be well known right now among insiders and students that Rupert Spira cheated on his wife Ellen, WITH A STUDENT. I think even couple or multiple students. And they had a very ugly divorce. So there goes your deeply conscious, loving and selfless non-dual guru. — People who mislead need to be called out and held accountable. An extreme example is always Trump.

Welcome to the biggest cult in town.

Sounds about right

When socializing with normies, I basically mostly just act like a fool, troll, tease, fuck-around, and laugh (very key) 24/7. I treat everyone like they would be my 7-year-old sister. Unless someone shows serious signs of intelligence, intellectual integrity, wisdom, and interest in deeper talks, there's no way I am bothering myself. Not at this age anymore. Learned my lesson the hard way from years of trying, suffering from being gaslighted as you said, and just endless damn time wasting. And like Leo said, focusing on your purpose is key. Cuts through all the petty little human bullshit off of your life.

No, spiritually it doesn't sound like I am anywhere near your level. To be frank, it is not even my #1 priority right now. But nonetheless, I am more conscious than most people walking in the streets.

@puporing Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Makes me feel less lonely, as I have struggled with these thoughts pretty much my whole adult life. Increasingly so every year, since I keep developing myself, my consciousness, integrity and Love. I resonated with everything, except perhaps spirituality (unless we are talking solely real-life meetings here).

As others have mentioned, my best dancing is when I totally let go of thinking and get taken over by the dance. I am a freestyle dancer - but then there is also a state of total let go freestyle dancing. In this state I also get tired much slower.

As a dancer with a background in hip-hop, I must say that there are really high-quality hip-hop music. And hip-hop music, especially New Style, pushes my body and dancing in a way classical music probably will never come close to. Perhaps I just haven't listened to enough classical music. But I don't think that's the case. All that being said, there is music that combines classical music with hip-hop

Thanks for asking.

Maybe your brain is just naturally wired to be more on the lazy and complacant side. Maybe you are just not a very ambitious and hard-working person at your core. Perhaps, the whole reason you got into spirituality and deeply resonated with it to begin with, was this very reason. I have been deep into spirituality from 17 years onwards. Honestly more like when I was 10 years old, I had some sort of solipsistic awakening and started asking questions about solipsism when I was like 6-8 years old. I remember realizing that my best friene can’t see my thoughts and I had an existential crisis from it lol. Spend the following years trying to understand it. But anyway, I’ve exerienced a ton of bliss from the spiritual work, from doing nothing, and from letting go of desires and goals - yet I always find myself back in the world working hard, deeply developing myself & creating massive value and beauty for the world. I just love the vision and beauty of my life purpose, which requires an audacity that only a highly ambitious person dares to have. The point is: hard-working and ambitious is deeply wired into the core of my brain. It doesnt take me effort to work hard. It takes me effort to sit still, do nothing and be useless for the world.