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@Leo Gura Pick up brainwashing

@WonderSeeker Yup. I am definitely very picky with whom I decide to even go on a date with. I will screen quite hard for their ability for more maturity. Edit: btw: have you heard of demi sexuality? I have been considering whether I have developed it in recent years.

@Zenterus Oh, my bad! It’s good to have others who are in the same stage of the journey with the whole sex game. Can get very lonely with all the unconsciousness around it, and as you said, the pick up programming.

@Emerald Thank you for the insights, they are a great reminder for myself to keep grounded and in integrity, now that I’m entering the dating market again after many years.

Since you only have 7 post, I’m gonna assume you are fairly new here and havent bumped into this post: I was reminded of this, so I thought I would share it for you. You are not alone in feeling like this. At least me and OJ shared our experience with this on the thread. Check it out brother.

Man, this is like hell in every possible way lol I wouldn’t even be able to get an erection if sex became this mechanical and robotic.

Go straight to studying Josh Lyons’ Actualized Selling. The most honest, authentic yet effective stage orange way you can possibly sell.

Bro is old-school

I have completely given up on finding a girl my age group, that is into spirituality in the purest sense, and not new-age BS. I will be happy to have a solid stage green girlfriend with relatively good integrity. So in that sense, instead of looking for a girl into spirituality, I am more looking for a girl who is more honest, truthful and integrous. Spirituality is basically Truth anyways.

Yup, I am similar in the sense that I am attracted to the same age group. That means women around the age 24-30, but in practice more like 24-28. How many of these are conscious and mature enough for a healthy relationship based on truth! But you make a good point about the upside of my extrovertness, I didn’t even think about it! I guess it is a double edged sword, as many things in life are. On one hand, it makes meeting new people, in volume, much easier. But on the other hand, it means I crave connection and socialization much more than an introvert.

I have been having a crisis from this for a long time, and still haven’t moved on from it. Especially as a young man who isn’t attracted to the older women yet, finding a young mature and conscious woman is virtually impossible. It’s just that I happen to be an extrovert who values deep intimate companionship.

@Leo Gura Wow, this is very well articulated. This is what I am trying to put into words for myself when I date now vs 5 years ago when I was much more corrupt.

Thanks for sharing. Good self-awareness! For me, it must be dating as I recentl started going out to meet people and date again. And good riddance! It’s an unconscious and conformity-filled cesspool! It is almost perfectly correlated that the more conscious and mature you behave, the less results you get. And vice versa. My God, I have matured too much in the past 5 years to be playing this game for long.

I almost choked on my food

https://www.vogue.com/article/is-having-a-boyfriend-embarrassing-now Articles like this fueling the girls’ side of things.

Great points here already, and definitely great question too. Basically how I see it is that girls getting more power through the empowerement movements taking over, making them more entitled and picky. While at the same time guys getting disempowered by the same movements, society and culture, and thus being way more afraid of being a proper masculine, attractive man. Being more afraid of actually learning social skills with the girls and the art of approaching and seduction. Finally, add in the fact that more girls enter universities than guys, they enter the work force more, make more money etc. and the whole old school traditional protect & provide don’t really work anymore. What this means tho, is that the girls now go more for the really top attractive guys (who dont want to commit, cuz they dont have to and are driven by having lots of sex with different women), and are more willing to be in their harem, especially as slut shaming also is getting much less than in the past. So for the top guys, it is just getting easier. So girls get their needs met by the attractive people they really wanna have sex with, but can provide for themselves better than most guys. And the top guys get their needs met without having to commit to just one girl. This is the case for the majority of girls, and the top guys. The rest struggles to even enter the game - hence the whole male loneliness pandemic. Oh, and of course social media and endless options just throws gasoline on fire. Personally, I find this lifestyle extremely shallow and unsatisfying. I prefer an intimate relationship, but my standards are perhaps too high. Or just really hard to find someone compatible with me. Compatibility is key in making relationships work.

Girls do shit-test, that’s for sure. You can visually and viscerally see their attraction spike up, when you pass them. The question is, do conscious women also shit-test? Probably no girl is beyond shit-testing, similar to no conscious guy is beyond a perfect pair of boobs. Unless you are done with the sexual game.

State of consciousness.

I don’t see it. What exactly makes you think this?

My foundation and day-to-day is very structured and organized, so that when it is time to be spontaneous and let go, I can do it without it turning into complete chaos.

As an ENF(J) who has consciousness work as a top value, one of the biggest joys in my life is to imagine the future of a highly developed and conscious humankind. This is one part/way how it could play out. Do you have similar types of videos to share?

@Daniel Balan I have been there.

I deeply respect that brutal honesty here. That is some powerful self-admitting.

As a dancer, I love the analogy. When people don't focus on listening to the music while watching a dance performance, they miss half of the beauty.

@zurew This is where you should do exactly what is being pointed out, which is to use your own mind to make your own judgement. At the end of the day, the fact of the matter is that majority of society lives in group-think and there is a heavily unbalanced stigma against being outside group-think vs being in group-think, making it unhealthy and toxic for humanity and its survival and growth. - - - And finally, we really should respect Leo's wish to keep this thread focused on what really matters and what the thread is about. If we want to discuss this conversation more in-depth, we can start another thread for it.