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@Miguel1 So you were strawmanning yourself unknowingly? lol A nice pair of boobs will give you an erection, no matter how much you resist it. It's not in your control. It's an unconscious reflex. (provided that you are actually present and looking, or you imagine them effectively lol) However, the choice to act on it is yours. Whether you want a committed relationship, a casual encounter, or no encounter at all is your decision. Contrast a nice pair of boobs of a crazy girl with a mature woman with proper clothes that don't reveal any cleavage. The crazy girl will get your erection, while the mature one won't. Interest is not instinct. And sexual attraction is based on unconscious instinct, not conscious interest. No man jerks off to maturity. Even the most mature and conscious and spiritual men of all time will not get erected to a granny (unless that's somehow their visual preference).

Addiction is not love. Most people are addicted to fun, excitement, and dopamine hits; basically, anything novel that doesn't require much above a short attention span. Especially nowadays. Most people are predictable dopamine junkies. But that has nothing to do with love.

Obviously. But also obviously, that's a strawman argument, because even though it's true, that doesn't mean it's relevant. You're talking about aging and maturing and selecting. He's talking about timeless patterns of attraction. In other words, being mature doesn't magically remove or even alter our attraction signifiers in any meaningful way. We still crave what we crave, and we can still hook up with someone without commitment. This is true for both men and women, but is less serious for a man than it is for a woman. Selection criteria is not the same as innate attraction. One is surface-level and conscious and the other is deeply-wired and unconscious. Virtually, no man will get the ick from a nice pair of boobs, even if the girl is immature or crazy. Sometimes, being crazy enhances the attraction even more.

I've been experiencing something odd lately. Every morning, right after I wake up, my mind is empty. Like completely blank. Nothing there. I temporarily forget who I am, where I am, what I am supposed to do, my motivations, my goals; all on a subconscious level at least. Then as I move on with my day, I start remembering. What bothers me the most is forgetting the things I thought about before bed. They seem like important insights that I would love to implement the next day, then poof. There's an almost total loss of meaning making that surrounds this experience too. Although, during that period of forgetfulness, I still do what I routinely do. I usually get up and do some chores around the house. It's strange.

@Someone here A crush is not love. It's a temporary obsession. Love gets built over time.

How does that look like?

That's called codependency. Healthy love respects boundaries.

I think the desire is a pointer to what we are lacking at a certain moment. What happens when you no longer actively desire someone? Does love magically vanish? I don't think so. At least, true love wouldn't.

What if I hate myself? When I love someone, I'll include them in my self hatred and sabotage.

Care + Respect = Love

@Someone here 🤝💯

Welcome to post-modern identity and AI revolution. It wasn't always like that. Life used to be a lot slower, sometimes it was almost static. What can we do anyway?

I think I've been extremely generous this whole time entertaining and walking through the nonsense of absolute relativism. So, I'll end with this: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Anything less than that is unacceptable. Period. Good luck.

Here is a clear standard: Something evident enough that you can shove it and rub in my face and I cannot deny it. Something clear enough that you can poke my eyes out with it. Something stable enough that you can return to it whenever you want. Science gives you all that. It's not arbitrary. Your reasoning is arbitrary. This radical epistemic relativism is unhealthy. It ignores the reality and equalizes truth with bullshit. Again, you can do that, I'm not gonna stop you. But be careful where it's gonna take you, cuz it's not pretty.

Reminds me of that Elle Fanning strawberry meme 😍🤤

Clear to whom? No one is above self-deception. I looked at it. It's a coincidence. A very common one these days. I understand perfectly and am very familiar with the phenomenon you're describing. It's called empathy, and I have plenty of it. And I appreciate the care you're taking to draw this distinction. I want to meet you there, because I think we're circling something real, but from different angles. First, I don't believe my experience of others is all my own projection. That would be solipsism, and I don't buy that. I believe others exist and each have their own bubble of experience. But where I diverge from you is that I don't think that perception is received so much as it is resonantly constructed in real-time. If you carefully examine what happens when empathy happens, you will spot the distinction I'm referring to. Right now for you it seems like you're catching a fully differentiated energy from an external source. I am saying the energy itself is an undifferentiated potential, and it's coming from within you, not the external source; Basically, your mind is doing the interpretation. This is extremely subtle. It happens extremely fast, most people don't notice it. The next time you catch a "vibe", remember my suggestion. Notice how your mind is largely doing most of the work. The "vibe" is raw. The meaning is yours. But notice, I'm not saying there's no external reality. I'm saying you never touch it directly. You only ever touch your experience of it. And that includes the experience of "feeling someone's vibe". It's alright. I respect that.

@Carl-Richard Look, man. I think I have already debunked most or all of your claims, so I'm not going to engage any longer. And now you are giving me homework, but your homework is too long already, and you likely won't catch up. It's alright. I'm not here to debate or convince you of anything. My initial position was that of carefulness. I told you to be careful with these beliefs at the beginning, and now I am reminding myself and you. You can believe whatever you want, it's not my business, nor my job to debunk your beliefs. In any case, I think all you have done here so far is making groundless claims, referring to anecdotes, and crafting analogy after another. If you ever have something tangible; a pre-recorded dream journal, an independent witness, a testable mechanism... I'll be happy to look at it. Until then, take care. I've said enough. And I have nothing more to say.

@AION I was just explaining, relax.

Physical death or ego death?

They are saying you are the one who is trying to rape their ass.

Me too, somehow, but it aged me backwards 😂

This is circular reasoning, because it is claiming truth to the assumption that it is trying to prove (convergence of sensory streams). You are asking me to accept this TV scenario as a reasonable inference at the same level of a precognitive dream scenario, as if they are structurally identical. You are conflating the sameness of their nature with the sameness of their structure. Yes, I do agree that life is a dream in essence. However, that does not mean the dream allows everything. A real gun and a toy gun look identical, but one fires bullets and the other fires nothing. Structure without mechanism is meaningless. The TV scenario has a known physical mechanism: Fire happens → Camera records it → Signal broadcasts → You see it on TV. The dream scenario does not. You have to assert that: Future event → Somehow transmits information backward in time → You dream about it. As well, the TV scenario has multiple paths to verification, while the dream scenario does not have any. In the dream scenario, you have nothing: No recording of the dream. No independent witness. No timestamp that can be externally verified. No way to prove the dream happened exactly as you remember it. You can't even re-access the same prophecy you once had access to. You only have your memory of it, if that (because it's likely more distorted than you think). Lastly, the chronological order of events is clear and sensical in the TV scenario. The event happened in real time, then later was broadcasted through various outlets like TV or newspaper or something like that. With the dream scenario, you're claiming a reverse order of events. You get the news before they actually happen, so they are not converging with any other source, and you are more likely to be the cause than the neutral prophet.

It's not motivation talk. It's a reality check. You don't have to chase anything if you don't have the desire. Plain and simple. Trying to keep yourself accountable for what? Do you even want what you say you want? I don't think so. If you wanted it, you'd be doing it. You wouldn't need a map or someone to hold your hand, or worse to spank your ass. If you wanted it, you'd jump right into it and then ask questions later. Again, just go watch Netflix or something. Better than searching for scam and finding it.

Trying to outsource inner work is the biggest mistake. If you are genuinely not motivated enough to do the hard work, then maybe it's just not for you. You should be burning on the inside with desire. You should be willing to sacrifice yourself. You should be willing to lose everything. This is not a joke. You must have the desire for it. Truly. Otherwise, it won't work and you're wasting your time. If you can't get yourself together, then just go home, watch Netflix or something.