WelcometoReality

I know you are. What you call "you" I call presence or aliveness but go for the word that suits you best. I would say it's not nothing but close. It can't be seen so nothing, it's definetly not something, but it has qualities. These qualities can be subtle in the beginning. Continue to explore. ?

Then it should make perfect sense that I'm imagining to be a separate self that got ripped off from Oneness.

That's not from the perspective of THE ONE though.

Hey I was promised bliss and eternal happiness not fear and death. I got ripped off.....

Scary indeed. It always come when you least expect it.

I agree that the sense of self is more than just thoughts. That's what I've said in @james123 thread all along. But is there an entity that dies? In that case where is it? I would say that it's more a form of energy that ceases to exist.

@Javfly33 Nothing actually dies since what you think you are is only what you think you are.

Thought defines and the one that is the owner of thoughts is another thought which is ego. What 'I' mean with Experience is sight, sound, feel, taste, smell, and thought. Not the words but what they point to. Does this nothing have any qualities? Yes, no one within the body, and what is the body what does it consist of? Yes no one becomes enlightened. James is a thought that comes and goes. Can a thought die? "Won't be back" is a thought.

Ego is what we define it to be. Words have no meaning until we give them meaning. If you want to define ego as that you do that. And I agree btw. ? Yes experiences might differ but the absolute is the same. ?<3

Yeah you are totally right. Thanks for pointing it out. ?

Yeah if you don't want to talk in context that's fine with me. ? No words are true so If you really want to push it to the limit you can stop talking altogether. ??

If you are to express it to others try to do so consciously. Preferably without screaming. Journal about your anger helped me. And dig deep to where the anger comes from. Usually a held belief about how others should behave (or you).

Context is context.

@James123 Ok here is an example of what I mean. I was always told I was such a sweet and calm little kid. Never angry. Then when I awakened I didn't identify with that calm guy any longer. It was just thoughts of how I should behave. So once I awakened from thought there was alot of stored anger in the body that came up that I had to work through.

Find a practice you can do in your day to day life.

Have no one talked to you or been around you since you were born?

You can still identify with the contractions in your body

Ego is far more than thought. That's why I said that there still is work to be done but that depends on how far you want to take this until it isn't.

The ego is simply identification with certain thoughts and feelings in the body. When you no longer identify with those it no longer is "calling the final moves" and that energy movement starts to fade away.

That could be the case. It could also come back after a week, a month or a year. It usually does but there are cases where it doesn't come back at all.

I dont understand what you're saying. Could you explain further?

@beastcookie Check out david r hawkins book power vs force.

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Yes thoughts are not a problem and not emotion either. The notion that something is a problem is in fact a thought itself. So that is thought saying that thought is a problem. This is seen through when you awaken from thoughts. Experientially there is no longer separation between what is perceived and the perceiver. It's one and all is happening within the one. You can't even say that because that would imply separation between the one perceiving and the perceiver. Even though this is experienced there can still be identification to the feeling/contractions within the body which is based on the separate self. The ego momentum can be there emotionally. When you awaken out from that the contractions are no longer expressed/identified with. You see them as energy contractions in the body and let them sit in the body. This is where we define ego differently. The body has it's own preferences. It prefers pleasure over pain. The taste palet is different from body to body. Some might prefer fish others steak others vegetables. I don't define that as ego but you do. I'm not saying anyone of is rightor wrong. It's just important to note these differences in definition. The ego as I define is the energetic movement of a separate self. Thoughts, emotion and the deep seeded existential NO. Not all thoughts and emotions are based on the separate self, only 95% or so. ? That seems like a great deepening into THEONE. To me this deepening has happened over the last 4 years but it always feel complete. You can't imagine how this can go deeper but it always is. It's a true wonder. ? I agree, depression and lack is an epidemic that most people suffer of. And they are not aware that it's there own creation. Truly heart breaking to see. <3

Thx for listening to it mate. Yeah there definetly is clear differences in the way they teach. Yeah the seeking energy stops when you awaken. There are still contractions of this separate self within the body after awakening and the practice then is not to seek for full enlightenment. That would be delusion. The practice is to relax these contractions as they come up. Thank man and good luck to you too.