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Well you can burn away your Self with truth.

@Red-White-Light You mean that the white bearded man in the clouds is all illusion? ? The bible holds some good pointers though. At least 10 pages worth out of what 600?

That might be true. ? But it's truth or bust for me no matter the consequences. ?

I'm not burning myself. Just seeing the falseness and truth. Wake up and see for yourself.

Yes as I'm well aware you did. I think you're hung up on the wording separate self. You can use another term if you want to. Let's call it Sweetie pie instead.

Definitions are just words pointing to something within experience. The question is how well do they point. You just defined hell. I don't believe there is a separate self. I'm defining what the separate self is based on my own experience.

There is no separate self just layers of identification with thought (I thought) and emotion (fear) which form an energetic movement that I call the separate self. Believing that there is no separate self won't get you closer to enlightenment. It will just be another layer of the separate self on top of all the other layers.

Yeah I have heard of him. I <3 rebels.

You are creating evil. Evil does not actually exist and there is no Gods design that's just a belief your holding onto.

@VeganAwake Yes the separate self protects itself from its own crumbling at any cost. If truth is the highest agenda then any sense of falseness should be looked at and questioned.

Not the kind that you believe God to be. God is not some kind of holy divine being that sits up in the clouds and banishes evil. Where does this "evil" come from? Would it exist without humans?

Clearly Bruce lee resurrected.

1. Everything is in constant change, the absolute does not change. The view is holistic. Change can't be holistic. 2. It can come back. It's more common than not. Learn about the movement of ego sobthat its easier to spot tyat movement.

I don't want to hijack the thread. Lets talk more in private.

Yes it can and it's important to know where you're at. He didn't say he was fully awakened but rather awakening. Just because it's the absolute truth doesn't mean it's helpful.

@James123 The hammer is not the best tool for every job. Great for driving in nails but bad for cutting wire or raking leaves. It seems like I usually go for the hammer though so maybe I should get it out of the toolbox for a while to try to find the use of the other tools more frequently.

<3 It will come by iself once you've gone through your shit. ?

@VincentArogya This can be hard when you are in the middle of your awakening. You can feel you don't resonate with the dreamstate your awakening from at all and don't want anything to do with people that are still asleep. Once you moved past a certain point you can go into the dream fully without being effected by it.

No we are not. Your talking about different states that happens within consciousness and I'm talking about consciousness which is stateless, never changing. More importantly BE it. Zombiemode is a state within consciousness. Trying to stabilize it happens within consciousness. When I say be it I mean that you let zombiemode arise and pass. Consciousness is still. Everything happens within it and it will not try to resist anything that is arising or hold onto anything that is passing. No it's probably not helping at all. ? It can be the false self but to be sure you can go into the anger and see what is triggering it.

@VincentArogya Nice to see someone talk about this. The journey doesn't end with awakening it has only just begun.

Yes the ego is just thoughts so simply see them for what they are. No need to engage with them.

What is trying to become fully awake and detach from the story?

@Seth Consciousness is always conscious. It's not more or less conscious. What's trying to become more conscious is the false self trying to get there. Be consciousness and stop utilizing it.

@VincentArogya what a lovely character. Thanks for sharing. <3