WelcometoReality

@WelcometoReality The "experience" might have passed in that case it is just a memory by now. If so my question is not to be answered now but maybe it can be answered if a similiar "experience" occurs. It is more a question for you to answer for yourself than for me.

Try this and see if it works for you.

@Strangeloop But you are here to tell us about "the void"? If nothing was there would that "space" exist? Would there be someone telling us about "the void". You as the human may not be there but something (maybe not some thing) must be there?

@WaveInTheOcean Why isn't it real? And what is it that knows it is god?

@WaveInTheOcean What makes it a dream?

Yes and what knows itself as god?

@SageModeAustin It sounds to me like a self that is trying to act selfless. But maybe it works. Isn't there a path in which you devout yourself to being of service to the world completely and in doing that all selfishness falls away?

@GoobyBooby Intuition will guide you what to do. But does awake mean less pain and difficulty? I think Jesus would disagree.

Yes that's usually something to work on. Sometimes these kinds of thoughts are hard to let go because they have been with us so long that they are felt like they are a part of us. But if we see the problems they are causing and not serving us they are easier to let go. It can be helpful to inquire to see what we are actually experiencing and when it is seen for what it actually is it dissolves. ?

You are having horrible thoughts and ideas that are thoughts about thoughts that become real in another reality which make those thoughts seem even more horrible. My advice is stop listening to those thoughts. They might come and you have no control over that but you don't have to listen to them. u can simply focus your attention elsewhere. If they become sticky and demands attention I would recommend doing some body work of somekind. That tends to break the stickyness to them and they will start to lose momentum.

@Strangeloop Could you describe the void some more and where are you in this experience?

@Terell Kirby Holding on seem like the human condition whether it is an identity of being human, consciousness, nothing or God it isn't the same as realizing it.

@Gabith Thanks for sharing. ? Yes we are living in our own subjective view of reality based on all those things you talk about which together could be called ego. I think you got your definition of ego pretty much the way I would describe it as well. I'm curious about how you would describe your view of what reality is alittle bit more in detail? ?

Might be time for inquiry into these thoughts about becoming unconscious and the fear. Are they true?

@machiavelli Sounds from what you are describing as the ninth jhana cessation. The breathing does not completely stop but it decreases in frequency. But it might feel that way. See more info here: https://www.dhammawiki.com/index.php?title=9_Jhanas Fear is the doorway.

@catcat69123 it's quite common to have energy releasing in different areas of the body, especially from the chakra points during meditation. If energy is releasing from your third eye focus ur attention there and let it release. Let the body guide you and don't try to achieve certain states.

@Thought Art Yes that's a healthy way to look at it. It isn't really true until you experience it for yourself and if you want to experience it you examine what you actually are experiencing right now.

@ArcticGong Martyrdom can be hard to pinpoint on a certain consciousness level. If we use spiral dynamics as the tool to point to certain consciousness levels, I would argue that there probably has been martyrs on every stage except for perhaps beige.

How are you going to become self-less?

I don't know if such a place like hell exist. I'm not saying it doesn't exist. I can imagine that thinking you might go to hell for living the way you want to live feels like hell. Visions of hell reminds me of jesus seeing satan in the desert and buddha seeing demons under the bodhi tree. Could their visions be related to yours?

So you are questioning whether hedonism is the right thing for you and if that isn't the right thing, what is?

Yes detachment gives intimacy. Which is not something one might think before experiencing it. The example that comes to mind is if you're attached to someone you are at the same time afraid of losing that person so you might pretend to be something your not in order to keep that person in your life. But then there is a wall of falseness between you and that person. The same thing can be said about giving demands to that person. That person might pretend to be something its not to keep you in his/her life.

@Dodo There's nothing wrong with a hedonistic lifestyle. If you're happy with that then I say YOLO. Go for it! ?? Is there any reason why this question is coming up for you right now?

I would describe Attachment as a fundemental part of ego. Attachment to thought, feeling, your family, friends, other egos, spiritual teacher. Could be anything. When there is no attachment there is detachment. Indifference is more of a closing of the heart. Shielding oneself from feeling. Often from feeling hurt by others.

Then I think we mean the same thing.